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Q. You have no recollections of anybody else ? 



A. Well, no. 



Q. Will you not swear positive there no one else present ? 



A. No, sir. 



Q. In what room in your house was it ? 



A. In our sitting-room. 



Q. Returning to the Loon lake matter, the ride on the road between 

 Saranac and Loon lake; give the conversation had between you and 

 Mr. Garmon; who first spoke to you of this matter of cancelling the 

 1877 tax sale on lot 24, southeast quarter ? 



A. ,Garmon brought up the subject. 



Q. What did he say in bringing up the subject ? 



A. I couldn't give you the exact language. 



Q. It was spoken about by him ? 



A. Said it could be arranged and be no more trouble about it. 



Q. What did you reply to that ? 



A. I am always ready to arrange any business matter. 



Q. Is that what you said ? 



A. I don't know as I said that. 



Q. Is that the substance ? 



A. That is the substance. 



Q. What did Garmon reply to that? , 



A I couldn't say. 



Q. Can you tell the next that you said in regard to it ? 



A. I could not. 



Q. Can you give any other statement that you made, or Mr. Gar- 

 mon made, upon that ride now ? 



A. Yes, sir. 



Q. When was it, with reference to this first statement; he said he 

 thought it could be arranged, and you said you were always ready 

 to make an arrangement ? 



A. We talked over very fully the details and how the arrangement 

 could be made. 



Q. I am asking you to give Jihe conversation? 



A. I am trying to get at it. 



Q. You are not giving the conversation you are giving your con- 

 clusions of it; I want the conversation. 



Mr. Adams.— If you can't give the exact words give the substance 

 of it. 



Mr. Anibal.— I submit you are not examining, Mr. Adams. 



Chairman Ryan. — If he can't state the exact words he can state the 

 purport of it. 



