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lots but barely allotted on the map but what one occupancy would 

 carry the whole quarter. 



Q. And that is all that you can remember in regard to that ? 



A. That was talked over pretty thoroughly. 



Q. Did you file any application to redeem that lot; this is lot 15 

 now ? 



A. I did not; no, sir. 



Q. Did you with reference to the southwest corner of 24; file any 

 applications to redeem that ? 



A. No, sir: I have got them to file. 



Q. You got some affidavits ? 



A Yes. 



Q. Who did you get to make an affidavit with reference to the 

 northeast quarter, township 15; who made an affidavit in relation to 

 that? 



A. Nobody, I think. 



Q. There was no affidavit secured in reference to redeeming that 

 from the tax title, the southwest quarter of 24, who did you get to 

 make an affidavit in that case with reference to occupancy ? 



A. Four or five of them. 



Q. Name them? 



A. I decline to name them; I will produce the papers: 



Q. I ask you to name the persons ? 



A. The papers are the best evidence; I would like people here to 

 see how they are. 



Q. Give us the names of the persons that you got to make affidavit 

 preparatory to redeeming the southwest quarter of township 24? 



A. I decline to do it. 



Q. We will pass on from that; you have spoken of this one action 

 from the southeast quarter of township 24 that was commenced by 

 the forest commission, now what other action had the forest commis- 

 sion commenced against you ? 



Chairman Utah.— If we leave here at all this af ternoon we want 

 to leave the building as early as 2 o'clock; it is now about a quarter 

 past 1. 



Mr. Anibal. — I think possibly we will get through in fifteen 

 minutes. 



Q. An action was brought against you by the forest commission 

 for what lot; trespass upon what lot in addition to the southwest 

 quarter of township 24 ? 

 A. When?. 



Q. Since 1886, first of January ? 



