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A. No; I have no interest in anybody particularly in connection 

 with this business. 



Q. You feel an interest with Gannon in this matter ? 



A. No, sir. 



Q. Cool as a cucumber, don't care anything about it? 



A. I don't know that I do. 



Q. Tou think you "stand entirely indifferent between Garmon and 

 your nephew on this question of veracity ? 



A. Yes, six; I do. 



Q. Would you believe your nephew with the present state of feeling 

 you have against him ? 



A. I have to take his statement with a good deal of allowance. 



Q. How is it with Garmon, would you believe him? 



A. Yes; sir. 



Q. That is all. 



Mr. Anibal. — That is all from you; I will read now a statement 

 from W. W. Hartwell: 



STATE OF NEW YOKE* ) 



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County of Clinton, ji " 



William W. Hartwell being duly sworn says that he isa resident of 

 Plattsburgh, in the county of Clinton, and has been for more than 

 twenty-five years last past ; that deponent is a member of the firm of W. 

 W. & G. W. Hartwell of Pittsburgh, N. Y.; that deponent first met 

 S. F. Garmon in the year 1886 or thereabouts, who is the warden of the 

 forest commission; that at no time or on any occasion has he settled 

 with and paid said S. F. Garmon for any logs or timber at the rate of 

 fifteen cents per market or standard and neither has the firm of W. 

 W. & G. W. Hartwell; that at no time since deponent first met S. F. 

 Garmon in the year 1886,, has daponent of the firm- of W. W. & G. W. 

 Hartwell or their employes cut any timber or logs on the lands 

 belonging to the State of New York knowingly; deponent further 

 states that some time prior to the time when the forest commission 

 took charge of the State lands and prior to deponents knowing or 

 meeting S. F. Carmon, one Levi Noble, of Bloomingdatej N. Y., did 

 lumber two lots which the State of New York and the said firm of W, 

 W. & G. W. Hartwell had each an undivided interest therein, said lots 

 were situate in township 18, Great Tract 1, Macomb's purchase, and 

 that the said firm of W. W. & G. W. Hartwell had the logs from said 

 lots, and upon a claim being made by the Comptroller of the State 

 for the pay for the State's interest therein deponent did settle with 

 the Comptroller of the State of New York for its interest in said lots 

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