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alone deal ; but speaking for the Grand Trunk, I may assure you that any reasonable 

 transportation requirements will be met by the company, and when the time arrives 

 for resuming this year's operations we shall be happy to confer with representatives 

 of the association, in view of meeting their wants, and making Montreal the port for 

 fruit shipments. 



" Tours truly, 



"L. J. SARGBANT, 



'( Traffic Manager. 



" W. "W. DuNLOPj Secretary, City." 



Mr. BucKE — In regard to shippiag rates : We have heard a good deal about 

 shipping to the old country but there is one point that has not been touched upon, 

 and that is the shipping of fruits from Ontario to Manitoba. The Canadian Pacific 

 Eailway rates are so high that the people cannot ship fi-om Ontario to Manitoba, and 

 this is a question that should be ventilated by this meeting. 



The President. — I think that is an important point, and 1 think the committee 

 will keep that fact in mind. I understand they are to have a special conference with 

 the transportation agents and the agents of the other companies. This matter will 

 be discussed at that conference. We will refer that letter to the Committee on 

 Transportation. 



Mr. L. WooLVERTON. — Would it not be well to express some appreciation of the 

 kindness expressed to us in that letter — our appreciation of the efforts made by 

 the Grand Trunk Railway Company in making arrangements for this special train. 

 I move that a reply be made by the secretary, expressing our appreciation of the 

 efforts being made to accomodate the fruit shippers. 



The President. — That might properly come in with the committee's report. 



Mr. A. McD. Allan. — Would it not be in order to move now to add to that Com- 

 mittee on Transportation ? We only have four members on that committee. I think 

 we should have more. Purther, a desire has been expressed on the part of the 

 steamship companies here to meet with that committee and discuss the whole sub- 

 ject. I think it would be proper to ask the Chair to extend an invitation to all the 

 representatives of the railway, steamship and express companies to meet with us. 

 I thipk it is nothing but fair and right to all concerned that we should meet together 

 and discuss the whole matter before we frame our report for the general meeting. I 

 would suggest that the name of Mr. A. H. Pettit be added to the committee, and I 

 suggest that some one else would name other gentlemen who would be serviceable 

 from other districts . 



Several other gentlemen were nji-med, and the following added to the committee : 

 Messrs. A. H. Pettit, W. L. Kew, A. G. Thorburn, Thomas Frankland. 



The President. — In view of Mr. Allan's suggestion, I will notify the representa- 

 tives of the companies interested to meet with the committee for a conference. I may 

 say just here that in the very short space of time that was allowed us to interview 

 these various transportation companies before leaving Montreal there were one or two 

 of the express companies notincluded,unfortunately, especially the Dominion Express 

 Company. Now their representative is here, and I hope he will take this as a special 

 invitation to repi'esent his company at this conference between the committee and the 

 transportation agents. Mr. Shephei-d was on the committee — the interviewing com- 

 mittee — in Montreal. 



Mr. A. McD. Allan. — Some of the representatives of the various carrying com- 

 panies, I understand, cannot make it convenient to be with us here this forenoon. We 

 want the committee to meet and discuss the different points this forenoon. As it will 

 take some time, I suggest that we proceed with work on the report in the meantime, 

 and we can then meet the agents and go over the report. We would like to have the 

 conference with the committee before the report is finally presented to the conference. 



(The suggestion was agreed to.) 



Mr. J. T. McBride, Montreal, read the following paper on " The Export of 

 Winter Apples — Profits and Drawbacks " : 



