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all fruit-growers knew that that was one of the worst sufferers 

 from black spot ; in fact, around Melbourne it was impossible to 

 grow that apple. The grower he referred to had no crop of 

 apples from those trees for four years owing to the fungus. 

 Previous to that time they got 600 to 700 cases of splendid apples. 

 This year he sprayed the trees with Mr. Mc Alpine's remedy, and 

 now if they went to that orchard they would witness a sight that 

 was not to be seen in any other part of the colony. Every one of 

 those trees was simply perfect, and he believed there were close 

 upon 1,000 cases of apples on the trees, all through that spraying 

 in the winter time. They tried it on other trees for the black 

 spot and found it equally efficacious ; and he had no hesitation in 

 recommending that the fungus fusicladium should be put in the 

 Bill, because this remedy was thoroughly effectual in eradicating it. 



Mr. Ingram said that climate had a great deal to do with the 

 fusicladium pest, and he thought one year was no test. 



Mr, Lang said that on the opposite side of the road there was 

 another- orchard that contained over 100 of the Cleopatra trees, 

 that a few years ago bore splendid fruit. Those trees had not 

 been sprayed this year, and there was not a single apple of any 

 consequence on the trees, and there was only a chain distance 

 between the two orchards, so that in that case it could hardly be 

 a question of climate. 



A Member of the Conference said he had had the fusicladium 

 ' for fifteen years. He agreed that the seasons had a great deal 

 to do with it. He had grown pears this year such as he had not 

 grown for years. This had been a most favorable season as 

 against the fungue. As the progress of the fungus was dependent 

 on the season and climate, he thought it would be dangerous to 

 put fungus iu the Bill. He thought it better to wait till they 

 knew more about it. He had tried to find remedies for years. 

 As the clause said it " shall include any other insect," he thought 

 there was no occasion to put in the root-borer. Any other insect 

 could be proclaimed within the meaning of the Act. 



Mr. Wakren thought that unless they had the black spot 

 included they might as well have no Act at all. He fully corro- 

 borated what Mr. Lang said, and he would not be without the 

 spraying that he carried out last year for a large sum of money. 

 He was very sure as to the result of the test, because he was 

 right in the centre of a number of orchards, none of which had 

 been sprayed last year, and they could produce scarcely a 

 case of Cleopatras. The previous year he himself could not get 

 a dozen New York apples in his orchard to take to any show, 

 whereas he ought to have had 400 cases. He had this year 

 600 or 700 cases of New Yorks, the equal of which would not 

 be found in the colony.; and he attributed that to the spraying. 



