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-to -which the vignerons -were exposed, and for compensation, that 

 ■would be right. Compensation should not be given too lavishly 

 in the future. The Bendigo people had suffered great hardships, 

 but people -«'ere no-w going into the matter -nMth their eyes open, 

 and if they did not reconstitute their vineyards they must not 

 lexpect compensation for a few years. 



Mr. BucKLEr seconded the resolution. He thought there -was 

 danger in bringing in cuttitigs, and seedlings -would be better. He 

 thought that the seeds should be confined at first to Macedon. He 

 tnew they -would gro-w under a verandah, but not in the open 

 ground. The danger of hybridization -would be great, and there 

 would al-ways be that danger, and consequently the danger of a 

 ■weakening of stock in their districts. 



Mr. F. DE Castella said as regarded the hybridization in 

 thickly-planted districts it -would only be at first because they 

 •would produce from cuttings after the first seedlings. The assist- 

 ance of seeds -would pnly be required for the purpose of bringing 

 the resistant vines into Victoria. As to having them at Macedon, 

 It -was al-ways the rule in bringing cuttings from one district to 

 another that the districts should be alike, and -whether shallo-w 

 districts ■would be the better of cuttings from Macedon or not, they 

 ■would not be likely to do well. It was well known that phylloxera 

 could not exist on the seed of the vine. It was not possible that 

 the Government could provide all the plants required for every 

 ■one, but they could keep a check on the persons selling them, so 

 that they could not sell a vine that was worthless for a good one. 



Mr. French said it must be understood that when the seeds 

 were raised at home they were not raised in a haphazard manner. 

 Every seed would grow and would be left to the mercy of millions 

 of insects; but, where raised in a proper manner, if the hybridi- 

 zation should take place it -would only alter the fruit a little, but 

 it was doubtful whether the character of the vine would be so 

 altered as to render the vine non-resistant. 



Signor Bkagato said that some years ago it was proved that 

 the resisting qualities of the American vines were through the 

 thick pores of the wood. A gentleman in Bordeaux planted the 

 seeds, and the cuttings of the seeds,* none of them, gave the 

 same type as the stock. It would take at least five or six 

 years to have a cutting so that it could be grafted. Each 

 vegetation would be stronger than the- previous. Although 

 the summer was not hotter it -was thoroughly proved that the 

 pores were not identical with the stock the seeds were produced 

 from, so he thought it would be necessary not to allow the 

 cuttings instead of seed. Those people -who preferred^ the 

 isuttings should have them under Government supervision. 

 It would be safe to have cuttings sent from uninfected districts. 

 On the continent there were many districts where the vines 



