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Lord Forbes’s but once, and that was in the kennel. Mr. Wynne’s I shot over 
several times—they were tremendous goers, but unsteady and headstrong.” 
Colonel Whyte expressed his preference for a light built, muscular 
dog “lighter in the ribs than most people would approve of, but great loins 
and the hind legs of a hare. A longer, lighter, but a more lengthy and 
supple animal than prize awarders approve of, but one that has the prime 
qualification of going as lightly over the heather as a cat, and winding 
through the tussocks as quietly as a weasel.” 
Mr. Walker responded with some information received from Captain 
Willis, who had procured from an Irish officer named McClintock a setter 
with black-tipped ears presented to McClintock by the late Marquis of 
Waterford. 
At this stage of the discussion a very well known personage who used 
the pseudonym of “Sixty-one” threw a bombshell into the camp by declaring 
that, having known Irish setters for fifty years, he was in a position to state 
that both blood red and blood red and white were correct; that black lines 
or tips were stories for the marines; that Irish setters were worthless, 
except a black and white breed of Captain Butler’s and a black and white, 
with a little tan, owned by the Marquis of Ormonde; that he had found Irish 
setters had neither pace, nose, courage nor endurance, and for that reason 
had given them up. 
This onslaught evoked an excellent letter from Mr. Harry Blake 
Knox, who stated that he had known and bred Irish red setters for many 
years. He seems to have been the first to give this name of Irish red setters 
to the breed, a name still in use in Ireland and England. He very sensibly 
said that every mongrel setter was known as an Irish setter and that the 
addition of “red” was necessary to specify this particular variety, which 
he then described at length, being particular to decry black in every way, 
whether in the coat or on the nose, admitting white only in the centre of 
the forehead or centre of breast. In particular reply to the charge of in- 
capacity made by “Sixty-one,” he asked, “Why on earth do we keep red dogs 
if they are worthless?” and claimed that for the arduous work connected 
with shooting in Ireland this breed was “the only dog for Ireland.” , 
Tue La Toucue Setrers 
Captain Hutchinson followed with a letter giving the following extract 
from a communication from a member of the La Touche family: “I have 
