68 HEARINGS BEFORE COMMITTEE ON AGRICULTURE. 
Mr. Wurrney. No; we have no elevators. Of course we have tele- 
phones, but it keeps two messengers busy attending to the work of 
the Bureau. ere : 
Mr. Bowrg. In order to reach people where it is not practical to 
reach them over the telephone? rome 
Mr. Wuitney. Yes; and carry the mail and papers and publications. 
The Cuarrman. And the charwomen, for the same reason? = 
Mr. Wurrnry. Yes; that is the same. We have three buildings, 
and we have another charwoman. It takes two of them. 
The Cratrman. I do not know whether we ought to transfer those 
charwomen and watchmen and laborers to the statutory roll, pending 
the erection of this new building. You get the service anyway. 
When we get the new building we will meet this condition, that there 
will be more messengers and more charwomen and more firemen than 
will be necessary, and some of them will have to be discharged; and if 
they are on the statutory roll it is going to be all the more difficult to 
do so, because then they will be in a way under the civil service, will 
they not? 
Mr. Wuitnry. No. Of course if there is no work for them they 
will be dismissed; but I would differ with you a little as to the neces- 
sity of keeping these people after the new building is up. In the new 
building we shall probably have assigned to us twice as much space as 
we are occupying now. We have got to have it. 
The Caarrman. But you will be heated from a central plant. You 
will not need a fireman. 
Mr. Wuitney. So far as the fireman is concerned, that is true; but 
as for the messengers and charwomen, we will need as many and 
probably more. : 
The Cuarrman. Will not the building then be put under a superin- 
tendent, with a special corps of charwomen, and all that, to keep 
everything clean? ; 
Mr. Wuirnrey. Mr. Chairman, I think that would be done now if 
the miscellaneous fund of the Department justified it, but that fund 
has not been increased for a number of years, and there is not money 
enough. We have to pay these expenses, which more properly would 
come out of a lump fund and be under one management. 
The Cuatrman. You are so scattered now that it would hardly be 
practicable to do that. There could be no supervision by one person; 
but where the whole Department is in one building the whole thing 
could be under the eye of one superintendent, just as the Capitol is 
under the superintending architect. 
Mr. Wuirney. Yes. It will probably be a number of years, how- 
ever, before we are settled. 
The Cuarrman. That is true, but time flies. Professor, over in a 
little note on page 19 you will notice a ‘‘list of persons paid from 
appropriation ‘Soil investigations, 1904:’ One expert, at $4,000.” 
Who is that gentleman? He is paid more than you are. 
Mr. Wuitney. Yes. That is Professor King, formerly of the 
University of Wisconsin, whom we for two years ago to help us out 
in investigations along the line of soil management, soil investigation, 
and it was necessary to give him a salary of that kind in order to get 
a man of his attainments. 
The Cuatrman. How long do you propose to keep him? 
