70 HEARINGS BEFORE COMMITTEE ON AGRICULTURE. 
The Caartrman. But you are not prepared to say how long you will 
need him before your own people are educated up to this point? 
Mr.. Wuitney. No, sir. ' ae 
The Cuarrman. Are you educating anybody up to his point? 
Mr. Wuitney. Oh, yes. ; : 
Mr. Bowrr. Are there any candidates for high places like his? 
Mr. Wurryey. Oh, yes. It is not somuch that we lack men. We 
do not lack men to take on that work. We could get along without 
Professor King if he left to-morrow, but it is a good deal as it would 
be if you employed a special attorney to look after special interests. 
You can get others, doubtless. You can train other men, but you 
want the best you can find. You want to have the man there to look 
after things. 
The CHatrman. I will tell you why I have led up to this. You 
remember the Secretary, and I think all your chiefs of bureaus, stated 
that you had to train men for this work; that you were not. entirely 
supplied, and you were graduating a force of what are called student 
scientists, energetic young scientists, along these different lines. That 
is why I am asking the question how long it will be necessary to keep 
this high-priced man. Are you not capable of doing his work your- 
self? But perhaps that is a leading question. 
Mr. Bowrs. I think we will all admit he is. 
The CHarrman. It looks like putting the cart before the horse to 
pay a subordinate more than you pay the chief of bureau. You are 
getting $3,500 and he is getting $4,000. Of course I know it is done 
with your consent. You would not want to state any time when you 
could get along without him? 
Mr. Wuitney. I would not like to, Mr. Wadsworth. Of course, as 
Isay, we could get along without him to-morrow just as you might 
get along without an expert legal adviser that you might have and 
take the advice of some less eminent legal authority; but while ques- 
tions are pending that require expert advice you want to have in your 
employ, you want to have where you can call on him, a man eminently 
adapted to pass judgment on questions. ; 
i The COATEMAN: He was with the Wisconsin experiment station, was 
e not! 
Mr. Wuitney. Yes. 
Mr. Burteson. How much is he receiving? 
The CHareman. $4,000. 
Mr. Grarr. Is it not true that soil investigation is in its infancy at 
present, and that it would not be like any other work which had been 
largely developed ? 
Mr. Wuitnry. It is a perfectly new line of work. 
Mr. Grarr. There are many basic questions which have not yet 
been solved. 
Mr. Wuitnry. Yes; we are working on fundamental principles 
that farmers need to know, that we need to know, to maintain and 
increase the productivity of our soils. 
Mr. Burtxeson. How much was this gentleman paid before he came 
to Washington? 
Mr. Wuirney. I think he was receiving $3,000, but there were cer- 
tain perquisites at the college, houses and gardens, and things of that 
kind. I do not recall just what they were. 
The Cuarrman. How much did he get in Wisconsin? Did you 
answer that? 
