78 HEARINGS BEFORE COMMITTEE ON AGRICULTURE. 
zers, and done part of the work in the field. We have taken entire 
charge of the cultivation with the understanding that the tobacco is 
theirs, but that we shall have the right to have such samples as we 
want for distribution, up to a certain proportion of the crop. 
This cooperation has not worked very satisfactorily. As soon as 
we have gotten the tobacco up in some shape they think it is going to 
be a great big thing and they want to have some sayin it. They want 
to have some say as to the disposition of the crop, and I think this 
year the Secretary will be willing to have us rent the land outright 
and grow the tobacco at our own expense. It is a very small matter. 
The Cuarrman. Why do. you not get your experiment station to 
do it? 
Mr. Wurtney. They are not in the right location. 
The Cuarrman. They can always send a party. They do it in New 
York State. Thy send parties to grow beets and show the farmers 
how to do it, and they are doing so in Connecticut, Mr. Henry says. 
Mr. Waurrney. Yes; they are doing it in Connecticut. 
The Cuarrman. There is a good deal of objection to establishing 
Government experiment stations over the country. It has been done 
but I think the older members of the committee, at any rate, would 
prefer the old way. 
Mr. Wurtyey. Mr. Chairman, I will say that this is of a most tem- 
porary nature. In case we go down there we would have no binding 
agreement except for the season. We would take a piece of land at 
Mico doches and one at Woodville on the soils that we want and on 
no others and simply give them $15 or $20 for the use of their land, 
and then there would be no question about the ownership of the tobacco. 
We can give it allaway. Mr. Henry knows how important it is to 
furnish samples widespread. If the Government had taken the whole 
cost of the work in Connecticut it would probably have been very 
much better for the tobacco business. 
The Cuarrman. What good does the distribution of samples do? 
Mr. Wuirney. It brings them to the attention of the manufacturers. 
The Cuarrman. What good does it accomplish if they do not know 
how to produce it themselves? : 
Mr. Wuityney. Yes; but we want to get the judgment of the manu- 
facturers. That is the point. 
Mr. Burteson. They give a certain proportion of the crop to various 
manufacturers, and they manufacture it and see whether it is good 
enough. 
Mr. Wuirney. That is a very important part of the work. 
The CnHarrman. I thought you meant distribution to raisers of 
tobacco. 
Mr. Warrney. Oh, no; not at all. It is just to secure a judgment 
of the value, and some of these tobaccos are very expensive. For 
instance, the shade-grown Sumatra tobaccos; they are worth $400 or 
$500 a bale. 
_ The Cuarrmay. How serious trouble have you had with these 
people? : 
Mr. Wuirney. Not very much. It is an immaterial matter, but a 
nals raised the question here and it seemed to me it would be 
etter 
Mz. Bowre. Better policy / 
