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The Cuarrman. I think my ground is tenable—that they arenot lost 
to the country when they leave you. 
Mr. Wurrney. The position I take is that they should remain with 
us for about five years, because if it takes us two years to train them, 
and we get nothing from them, we ought to get three years’ service 
out of them after that? 
Mr. Bowrs. Did you train Mr. Floyd? 
Mr. Wurrney. Yes. He was a young man. He stayed five years. 
The Cuarrman. I thought he came to you with this tobacco-growing 
instinct, as you might call it? 
Mr. Wuriney. Yes; he was a very bright young man that I came 
across in Florida—discovered in Florida. 
The Cuarrman. The Department, as I understand it, did not develop 
him. He developed the Department along certain lines. 
Mr. Wurrney. Well, in a way, yes; but the Department can develop 
men. 
The Cuarrman. There is no doubt about that. 
Mr. Grarr. It was somewhat mutual? 
Mr. Wuirney. Somewhat mutual. 
The CHarrman. But in that single case Floyd came to you because 
he was expert? 
Mr. Wuitney. Yes. 
The Cuarrman. He had acquired some knowledge so that in some 
way he was an expert for you and for the Department? 
Mr. Wurrtnry. Yes; he was an expert for us. 
The Cuarrman. You could not say in detail how that increase of 
$8,000 would be applied? 
Mr. Wuitney. No; there is no plan for thatat all. We simply fore- 
see that it will be needed, and those are the estimates, as we would 
estimate on any other line. 
The CHarrman. Now, would Mr. Scott’s question come in here? 
Mr. Wurirnry. Just one moment, Mr. Chairman. There is one 
other item of $1,000. That is for demonstration experiments. We 
are confronted constantly with the situation of finding soils that can 
be adapted to crops that are not at present grown. I have called the 
attention of the committee before to the soils that we have found in 
southern Maryland adapted to the growing of truck, similar in every 
way to the soils of New Jersey, and yet the New Jersey soils are 
farmed by a hard-working class of Swedes and Norwegians and Ger- 
mans, and they are adapted to the crops to which they devote their 
attention, and it is a very prosperous community. 
The situation in Maryland and in parts of Virginia is altogether 
different. The soils are not used for the crops for which they are 
adapted, and we can get up our report and talk to the people and it does 
not make any impression. We have found that it is necessary in a 
small way to go right down among them and get some of them to try 
these things, to interest them to a small extent, as we have done with 
our tobacco. When we went to Connecticut and told those people 
they could raise Sumatra tobacco, no attention at all was paid to it; 
but when we went there and did it, we had every attention that we 
wanted. So, when we send our soil-survey parties out into these areas 
and they find opportunities for other lines of agriculture, they have not 
the time to stop and argue with the people. They have not the time 
to arrange little experiments with them. They pass on to other areas. 
