96 HEARINGS BEFORE COMMITTEE ON AGRICULTURE. 
we will have another survey made and if it is in the condition that we 
hope it will be after the winter we will turn it over to the experiment 
station to put alfalfa and fruit on it. If it will grow alfalfa and fruit 
it is worth $100 to $125 an acre. . 
The Cuatrman. You consider that experiment as finished, do you 
not? I mean that the drainage will relieve the land of the alkali? 
Mr. Wurrney. There is no question about it. ; 
The Cuarrman. You do not have to go any further along those lines? 
Mr. Wurrney. No; but that is a demonstration for the people of 
Utah. Now, strange as it may seem 
The Cuatrman. Did not that hold good in Egypt? ; 
Mr. Wurtney. Yes, it held good in Egypt;. but, strange as it may 
seem, what they do in Utah the California people pay no attention to. 
The Cuatrman. That is their fault. 
Mr. Wurrvey. I know it is their fault. 
Mr. Scott. Similar experiments are being carried on in California, 
are they not? 
Mr. Wurrney. Yes, sir; and for that reason we have taken up an 
area at Fresno where they have a different kind of alkali; by the way, 
another at Tempe, Ariz., another at Billings, Mont., another at Yaki- 
ma, Cal., and another in southern California, hoping by the demon- 
stration of these experiments to impress the people of these different 
communities with the possibilities of reclaiming their lands, and as 
soon as that is done the thing will go of itself. 
The Cuatrman. You say the Egyptians did this? 
Mr. Wuitney. No; the English are doing it in Egypt. 
The Cuarrman. Did not the Egyptians do it in early days? 
Mr. Wurtnry. No; the Egyptians used a different system of irriga- 
tion. They were never troubled with alkali. They grew one crop a 
year and flooded their lands for about three months, during the rise 
of the Nile. For about three months the water was on. 
The Cuarrman. I thought the alkali question became a serious one 
with them even in early days. 
Mr. Wuitney. No; it did not become a serious one with them until 
this perennial irrigation was started. That is, adding small quanti- 
ties frequently. That is what brought ‘it up. That is true with the 
exception of a large area in the old land of Goshen, which was aban- 
doned and which was for many years not flooded, and that went to 
alkali and has been a desert ever since, until now they are reclaim- 
ing it. 
The Cuarrman. Have you done anything in Colorado at all? 
Mr. Wurrney. No; not in Colorado. We had a very urgent request 
from Colorado, especially in the San Luis Valley, but the Secretary 
takes the ground that with these fixed demonstration experiments it 
will not be necessary to do any more, and this is as much as we pro- 
pose to do in that Ime. Capitalists are taking the matter up, and if 
it was not for this matter of litigation there is no doubt but what it 
would be taken up; but there is so much uncertainty about the water 
rights that people are afraid to undertake anything. 
The Cuatrman. Is there anything further you wish to say, Doctor? 
Mr. Wurrney. No, sir; I have gone over the main lines. 
The Cuarrman. Is there anything the members of the committee 
wish to ask the Professor? 
Mr. Wurtney. I shall be glad to answer any questions. 
