318 HEARINGS BEFORE COMMITTEE ON AGRICULTURE. 
Mr. Hitu. That does not come out of my fund, and I do not know. 
I am hoping that nobody will bring up that question, because if they 
do they will make me pay for it, 
The Cuarrman. I do not believe if you get the dollars and cents 
together you will find it is any economy. 
Mr. Hi. Possibly not, sir. 
The Cuatrman. In the first place, the average dray and livery stable 
man here does not pay $50 or $60 a month for his driver, to start with, 
and men who make a business of that thing feed 60 or 100 horses 
cheaper than 5 or 6? 
Mr. Hi. We did not have any additional barn room. We found 
barn room for them by readjustment of the stable that was there. 
The CHairman. But you had to buy horses? 
Mr. Hitz. We have bought the horses, and we have got to have a 
man as a driver who is a little better than the ordinary. He has got 
to handle the post-office people, and he has got to have a good deal of 
intelligence; then he has. got to handle things for members of Con- 
gress. The members of Congress took 4,000,000 of farmers’ bulle- 
tins last year; and I think we have got to have rather something bet- 
ter than an ordinary teamster. 
The Cuarrman. It is a small detail. I wanted to know if it was a 
matter of economy; as a matter of fact I did not think you would find 
it economical. ; 
Mr. Hr. It is really something on which I am not competent. I 
know so little about horseflesh—I never kept but one in my life—I 
think he had to be shod every two days; and I sold him. 
The Cuarrman. Asa matter of fact your rush does not come steadily, 
it is periodical during the year; and at times you are comparatively 
easy ! 
Mr. Hii. There are times when we are comparatively easy; but 
we have pretty good steady work all the time, now, but unfortunately 
the absence of a watchman or the departure of somebody else does not 
occur with special reference to our easy times, and we have a great 
deal of trouble in helping them out. A man turns up sick in the post- 
office and they send to me to know if I can not supply his place; a 
watchman fails to turn up and I have to help out. 
The Cuarrman. Are there any further questions the committee 
wishes to ask of Mr. Hill? If not we will stand adjourned until 2 
o’clock p. m. 
Thereupon the committee adjourned until 2 o’clock p. m. 
AFTER RECESS. 
The committee met, Hon. James W. Wadsworth in the chair. 
Mr. Frank L. Evans, chief and disbursing clerk, division of accounts 
and disbursements, Department of Agriculture, appeared before the 
committee. 
STATEMENT OF MR. FRANK L. EVANS. 
The Cuatrman. Mr. Evans, the chief of the division of accounts of 
the Agricultural Department, is before us, gentlemen. You have 
what might be called the Secretary’s roll, have you not, Mr. Evans? 
Mr. Evans. Yes, sir; I have some figures here. 
