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that, and is glad of a little help, and would be glad for more. I] 
remember very well in Fargo, when we had quite an important meet- 
ing there, one gentleman from the country made a speech in which he 
said that if you gave a man 50 cents he would do $5 worth of work to 
get it. That is about the way with the work we do. 
Mr. Burteson. That is mistaken economy, is it not? 
Mr. Doves. Not if they put the $5.50 together and make five dol- 
lars and a half out of it, and especially if they stimulate the community 
to activity by reason of exertion or this desire to get 50 cents. It 
would be a clear gain. 
Mr. Burueson. At last, the community bears the burden. 
Mr. Donex. I believe the community bears the burden. You are 
burdening the people in the country by taking half their revenue 
ee them, and you do not return to them half of that which you 
take. 
The Cuarrman. Mr. Dodge, have you gor any figures in your Bureau 
showing the average haul to the farmer? 
Mr. Doper. Yes, sir. 
The Cuarrman. What is it? 
Mr. Doper. About 12 miles. 
The Cuarrman. The average haul of each farmer in the United 
States—of each farmer to his market? 
Mr. Dover. Yes, sir. 
Mr. Apams. Do you not think that is pretty high? 
Mr. Doper. That includes very long hauls in the mountain States 
and in the Southern States. 
The Cuarrman. It would be hardly fair to include the arid region, 
and all that. 
Mr. Donper. I think that figure is based on the idea that the tonnage 
for all distances would be of equal amount; subject to any error in 
that respect, I believe that figure would be correct. As the distance 
increases the quantity decreases, and this estimate, or the quotient 
derived from the computation which was made by General Stone, 
gives 12 anda fraction as the average; but Ido not think he took 
into account all of the varying quantities. Of course, you want to 
take quantity into consideration, for the mile haul has more quantity 
as a 12-mile haul. 
Mr. Apams. In addresses prepared by 87 Wisconsin farmers’ 
institutes, they made quite an elaborate estimate as to that very mat- 
ter, and all also obtained with reasonable degree of correctness the 
tonnage of the State which was transported from farms to market, 
and estimated that the average haul was 6 miles, and that cost over 
and above what the cost would bave been if the roads had been 
properly graded, and the money which up to that time had been 
expended had been intelligently expended, made a difference in the 
annual cost to the farmers of that State in moving their products of 
$6,000,000 a year. 
Mr. Grarr. Did they estimate the haul of 6 miles to be the distance 
both ways? 
Mr. Apams. Yes; that is my calculation. No; Iam mistaken. 
The CuarrMan. Perhaps Mr. Stone’s estimate covers both ways? 
Mr. Dopce. I had an estimate for the State of Ohio of about five. 
I think General Stone estimated only one way, but I know he took 
very long hauls in the South and West. 
