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lantern slides and all that. If you remember the conversation at the 
time, you said you would only require a small sum to supplement and 
keep moving along this institute work. 
Doctor Trur. That is exactly the policy now. 
The Cuarrman. Now you come to us with an estimate of $5,000. 
That is doubling up the sum in less than six months. That sum has 
only been available since the 1st day of July, and you want $5,000 
for the printing of charts, diagrams and photographs, and lantern 
slides for use in connection witli lectures delivered at farmers’ insti- 
tutes. I think from that language you intend to have your own 
lecturer deliver this lecture. 
Doctor Trur. That is not the idea. 
The Cuarrnman. The language certainly would imply that. 
Doctor Trur. The idea is this: Take, for example, the working 
dairy. I suppose there will be hundreds of lectures on dairying given 
at the farmers’ institutes, and it seems to me it would bea useful thing 
if the Department was in a position to chart some of the very useful 
results that are being obtained from time to time in the work of the 
stations and in other ways, and send those charts out, so that the 
institute lecturers could have them to use in the institutes. That is a 
form of publication which does not differ essentially from what the 
Department is already-doing and has done in the past. 
The Cuarrman. But how about the use of lantern slides? 
Doctor Trur. As regards the lantern slides, it is the same principle. 
The Cnarrman. That means casting your pictures, etc., on a sheet, 
does it not? : 
Doctor Tru. It isa more and more common and useful means of 
illustration. 
The Cuarrman. I da not deny its usefulness, perhaps, but ought we 
to go in that business? It never was intended last year when we gave 
the appropriation that you should go on those lines. 
Doctor Trun. We could establish here in Washington, I think, an 
exchange system with reference to lantern slides which would be very 
useful to the institutes, which would not involve any large expense, 
and which would enable us to send the lantern slides, illustrative of 
the work of the Department and of the stations, all around the coun- 
try in a single season, reaching in that way thousands of people who 
would never get these results otherwise. 
Mr. Scorr. Can you not do that gradually with the appropriation 
you have? 
Doctor Trux. I do not see that we can, with the appropriation we 
have. 
Mr. Havucen. These lecturers are paid, are they not? 
The Cuarrman. The State institute lecturers are. 
Doctor Trur. They are paid very small sums. ; 
Mr. Haveen. A number of them make a business of it, do they 
not, and receive so much a lecture? noe 
Doctor Trur. Yes; it isa side business as a rule. The institutes 
only run for a limited term in each State. ‘ 
The Cuatrman. During the winter. That is the only time you can 
run them properly. ; 
Mr. Apams. Mr. Chairman, let me state for Mr. Haugen’s informa- 
tion that 1 spent three years in the institute work. I attended hun- 
dreds of meetings and assisted in those meetings more or less and met 
