499 HEARINGS BEFORE COMMITTEE’ON AGRICULTURE. 
Mr. Price. How about black locust? 
Mr. Havucen. I do not know much about that. What would you 
recommend in our locality ? 
Mr. Pricer. I would rather leave that recommendation to Mr. Hall, 
who has charge of our tree planting. I willask him to write you along 
those lines just what he would recommend. 
Mr. Haucen. I wish you would. Does red cedar make a good fence’ 
ost? 
: Mr. Prick. Anadmirable post. Itisofvery slow growth. Itmakes 
a post practically as good as locust. 
Mr. Haucen. Practically as good as oak? 
Mr. Pricer. As locust, practically as long lived. 
Mr. Havcen. How long lived is the red cedar? 
Mr. Pricr. I would say twenty or twenty-five years in the ground. 
Mr. Haveen. A good bur oak will last that long? 
Mr. Price. Yes, sir. 
Mr. Haveen. There is not much difference then between that and a 
good bur oak post? 
Mr. Price. No, sir. ; 
Mr. Bowiz. On that question that I was asking you, earlier in your 
statement, about the ties for railroad purposes, say on the line of the 
Southern Railway from Virginia to Mississippi, through the States of 
North and South Carolina and Georgia, Alabama, and Mississippi and 
Tennessee, in the Southern States, what kind of ties do they use there 
and what is the life of those ties? 
Mr. Pricr. That could be answered better by the man who is inves- 
tigating along the very lines of your inquiry, but as I know it, most of 
the timber they use is oak and pine. 
Mr. Bowrz. What is the life of those ties? 
Mr. Price. Of the oak, five or six years, and the pine not so long. 
Mr. Bowiz. Suppose they chemically treated it with this solution 
that you are speaking of? 
r. Price. Yes. 
Mr. Bowie. What addition would that make to its life? 
Mr. Price. It would double it. 
Mr. Bowrz. It would double the life of an oak tie? 
Mr. Price. Yes, sir; and it might extend its life even longer. 
Mr. Bowrz. What about the life of the pine tie? 
Mr. Prics. It would have quite the same effect. 
Mr. Bowrn. What is the life of a pine tie as compared with the life 
of an oak tie? 
Mr. Price. It is shorter; two or three years shorter. 
Mr. Bowis. What ties had you reference to when you said that they 
rotted in about a year? 
Mr. Price. Those were Joblolly pine ties in southeastern Texas, 
where the conditions are very unfavorable for timber. 
Mr. Bowtn. These ties that you were just talking about live longer? 
Mr. Price. Yes, sir; because the climate and the soil is better for 
timber in the ground. 
Mr. Bowin. Have you ever discussed that tie-preserving solution 
with the Louisville and Nashville Railroad people? 
Mr. Pricr. I do not know whether it has been taken up by them or 
not. I will find out whether they have considered it. . I hope so. 
Mr. Bown. Have you any bulletins on that subject? 
