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Fall Meeting. - Morning Session. 



dsring tbe « 

 with litem -! 

 grapes was e 

 AUcr the n 

 meeting, ibe ' 

 presented tb* 

 Um subject* v 



I Aoiomn Meeting of tbe Frail 

 ■ly of ffMKm New York was beld 

 n Thursday, Ibe B£d ull. The Pree 



tbe proceedings of the Ii 

 ■eon Subjects for discnsai 

 t, wbich was accepted a 





aid oil experienced grape grow 



era know that th 



grape moat be summer pruned 



•r it will become 



a thicket of leaves and branches 



impenetrable to t 



le sun. Be did not think, bow 





summer pruning hastened, bat 





.arly npeomg. \ mes that ex 



Iced their bronc 



ies into trees generally npeD 



speeiaiens id tbi 





trellis. Theobje 



I of summer pruning ib to Im- 



prove the sue an 



] quality of tbe fruit. 



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Off the anu into tbe fruit, wbicb 



tine, nud iD this way the fruit was not only en- 

 larged, but came to maturity earlier. That was 

 Mb experience. 



W. P. Townsexd, of Lockporl, thought there 

 was no difference of opinion in regard to the ne- 

 cessity of summer pruning. Tbe only question 

 was as to the extent to which it should be carried. 

 Hie own impression was that we should heed a 

 little the teachings of nature in this respect, and 

 it is known that tbe sap tends to the extremities. 

 There may be so great a development of top as to 

 retard tbe ripening, but on tbe other hand be was 

 satisfied too severe pruning also retards the ma- 

 turity of the fruit. His neighbor, Mr. Paine, had 

 concluded to let his vines make their natural 

 a he thought be had lost several crops by 



follow 



broncho 



? the 



1 metbud o 



n i; the 



. Suitii. of Syn 



■what natural course from the com- 

 If the vine is planted in common 

 i* nln.nl manure, and it is allowed to take Itt 

 e, only having trees or something to which 

 lOdrila can attach themselves, and keep the 

 :hes extended, we shall get a crop of fair 

 jb, though not large. Bui when we plants, 

 in a rich, highly manured soil, and attempt 

 nfioe it to a trellis of ordinary dimensions, 

 ier as well as winter pruning is necessary, 

 e whole becomes a swamp of foliage and 

 ibes, when the fruit will never ripen. The 

 question is, at what time is it best to prone, 



-,of Dunsvitte, i 



-pen 



the wood and fol 



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.1 thing i 



e more weight of grapes than though the whole 

 * allowed to remain. Dr. TJnobbuill, of Cro- 

 i Point, pruned on this system. 

 Ir. Qebekdeen, of Macedon, said that if prun- 

 ; was carried to such an excess as to affect tbe 

 kith of the vine, it would of course injure tbe 

 ' pruning buve regard to 

 It was generally believed 

 ) elaborated by tbe leaves be- 

 ) bo used by tbe fruit. 



stol said if too much wood was allowed 



tbe sap would be exhausted by its natural 



showed the advantage of giving 



the health of the v 





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rof b 



Mr. Moody, of Lockporl, said, with proper prun- 

 ing, tbe buds may be fully developed, so as to se- 

 cure a crop of grapes every year, and yet not 

 forced to break in the autumn prematurely. 



II r. IiiN.ii in [!!i,, of Lockporl. practiced the tpur 

 system of pruning somewhat, and had very good 

 success with the renewal system. Sixty-seven 

 Tines, three years old, (Isabellas) averaged Hi lbs. 

 {rapes each. From one cane five feet long 



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mds of fruit. 



voeth had experimented a good deal 

 - i-i 1HII.-I.] them and left them uopruu- 

 in his own mind established these 

 M vine lake a natural course and it 

 7 well !„ r B f uw Teara _ a neighbor 

 ced grape grower, Mr. Wilcox, had a 

 i allowed to grow 



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spread o 





be over crowded. It 



would. It bears a good many g " pt9 1°^ "" 

 ity is not good, and they do not ripen as early bv 

 ten days as on those vines that rece.ve a good sum- 

 ttcr pruning. Dad 5„> vines growing, all treated 

 alike, except three, which are not pruned. The** 

 •ode a heavy mass on the trell.s, f ollr f,. cl 

 I the top. Did not gel three pounds of 

 from these three vines, tbey were poor 

 nuidtwed «nd worthless. The other thirty-six 

 produced » bountiful crop— last season at tbe rate 

 of ifl.sao pounds to the acre— some of the bunches 

 as solid and compact as WU*r'* Burgundy. 



Ur. H s M , ta , of Syracuse, inquired if tbe canes 

 ou the pru n «d t.aes ripened as well H on the un- 

 prnned, so ox lo eo dure the winter. 



prodaced no ripe fruit, when it was token 

 and pruned by sir Wilcox, since wn-cb time it 

 had borne mtgn'ficentTruiL Some of the bunches 

 were shown him and be dared not call tbei 



grown, for they v- 



Ooegentlemao 



of Naples, si way i 



i large as ttlack Hamburg* 

 i that tbe Hon- Mr. Pottle; 

 his vinee from Ibe treili 



Afternoon Session- 



Mr Hoao would recommend the Hartford Pro- 

 lific Grape. Had cultivated it for four years and 

 found it four weeks earlier than tbe Imhclta, grow- 

 ing by its side, while it is more productive au<j 

 about equal in quality. It is good eating by lh< 

 first September. Cultivated in the open ground 

 trained to stakes, it always ripens. We hear of a 

 great many ripe Dabtllwt, but always find upon ex 



able situation, by tbe side of a house, &a. In 

 ordinary places Isabella is not fully rip* one year 

 in ten. Hartford Prolific is said to drop badly, 

 but if exposed to the sun it is less liable to d 

 Mr. a. would add the Delawart, which wilb 

 was ripe the 10th of September, and a better grape 

 than any other. Dad fruited the Concord for two 

 years. It is a very Gdc grape, although not quite 

 equal in quality to Hartford Prolific. Ripens ten 

 days or two weeks before the Isabella. Tbe Diana, 

 although not fully ripe until after the Concord, 

 ripens a few berries very early and they are fine 

 flavored, sweet and delicious. Tbe Perkins is fully 

 three weeks earlier than the Isabella, is probably 

 a seedling of tbe Catawba, with same flavor. Re- 

 becca is said to be a feeble grower, but had not 

 proved so with Mr a. 



ibject of importance and 



.not e 



, N.-w York 





sary, Very few cultivt 

 cun speak from experi 

 these sorts for general, extensive, and profitable 

 culture. Gentlemen must try them thoroughly, 

 in ihe vinejanl, a* well as in the garden, and then 

 we shall know if they prove really hardy and pro- 

 ductive, and if tbey ripen early. Out of the whole 

 number of what may be culled new grapes, I have 

 not sufficiently tested any variety except the 

 Diana. The Diana. I believe, is a grape possess- 

 ing ull the qualities which are required for a prof- 

 itable ond popular grape. When ripe it is of most 

 Jelicitius quality— so that one cannot be wrong in 

 recommending it. Our Delawarts arc not ripe. — 

 Oantlcmeo import (hem from Southern Ohio for 

 exhibition. I bave seen Delawares in oilier gar- 

 dens, in tbe city, not ripe. Still, the Delaware is 

 a delicious liHle grape, and a very important ac- 

 quisition. Rdbteai I don't think will ever be prof- 

 itable, because tbe vine suffers in the summer 

 from the sun. It shows all the delicacy and ten- 

 derness of a foreign grupe. By the side of the 

 Delaware, oo tbe same trellis, the Rebecca shows 

 tenderness, while the Delaware is perfectly hardy. 

 Concord I think is going to be a valuable grape, 

 although of nothing like so fine a quality as some 

 think. A few days oarliness just saves it from be- 

 ing discarded. Hartford Prolific is entirely des- 

 titute of acidity at any stage of its ripening, and 

 tbat is one of Ks defects. When Hartford Prolific 

 and Isabella are equally ripe oue is Bour and tbe 



between sourness and acidity, showing that an 

 acid grape should not be therefore condemned. 

 The Llartford ProliGe drops from tbe buncb. which 

 is a serious defect for maikct purposes. Northern 

 Hiucadint is n little earlier and drops worse. On 

 the whole, until we had larger experience, Mr. Lt. 

 would only recommend one sort for general cul- 

 ture, aud thai was the Diana. But every gentle- 

 man's garden Bhould have the Delaware. 



Mr. Hook Kit thought we had some grapes which 

 were worthy of general and extensive cultivation, 

 but with our present experience it was probably 

 not best to make out a list. With our present ex- 

 perience, as to the Delaware, there is no doubt but 

 we shall find it a desirable grape, it is so hardy 

 and so productive. On his own premises the Del- 

 aware is fully ripe upon an open trellis. Where 

 the habMa is unripe and until to eat, tbe Delaware 

 is good. Certainly I should say it is a fortnight or 

 three weeks earlier than the Isabella. The Hart- 

 ford Prolific is the earliest grape tbot I have 

 ripened, and for my own use is a very good grape. 

 The Concord follows shortly afLer the Hurt lord 

 Prolific, and though 1 cannot praise it very highly, 

 still it ripens two weeks or more earlier than the 

 Isabella. The Jicbtcca I have no confidence in 

 whatever, its leaves burn so much in summer.— 

 The Diana ia a grape which I esteem very highly; 

 good deal better every year 1 know it. The fruit 

 i very rich and delicious and tbe vine is a great 



Mr. C. L. Hoau remarked that Delaware ripened 

 with him about the 10th of September. In Lock- 

 port Ibey were esteemed far superior lo the Diana, 

 i every respect except size. One two-year-old 

 nc produced one hundred clusters of grapes. 

 Mr. E. Uooni', of Lockporl, thought tbe Dtla- 

 art worthy of cultivation by all tbe gentlemen 

 here, but Delaware is not Dearly as large as the 

 Tbe Diana is a very strong grower, also. 

 ; is very valuable for garden purposes. — 

 Liked the Delaware grape, but, until we know it 

 no fanner should set eut an acre of it.— 

 is equally as hardy as the habtlla, and a 

 greater bearer. The wood is shorter jointed, and 

 nsequentiy there are more buds to fertilize.— 

 aolher advantage it ripens earlier, and ten days 

 goad as the ripest Issbelli 



K opoo any soriofgrnpe. Tbe pub 



aoy sort equal io the Isabella, *a, 

 ,nd if we b«r« got such a grape o 

 l will be a great ga tfl . People c »| 



P Baur, Esq, bad neglected ti 



! grape the Cltoion — 



lust easily propagu'<-il 

 rywbere whether 

 stem New York « 



I be the grape 

 1 kept the Clinton grape into 

 the longer we kepi them 



ccellent grape, r 



le manner, and 



i the Isabella, t 



got a ripe Isabel! 



peoed fully everj 

 "in quality far superior " Had raised toe f 

 more years than tbe Diana, and until uftei 



grupe, bv the >ide e.l the Diana. 

 The Society then by a unanimous vote r 



mended the Diana grape for general culnvai 



; -President Wu. Bni 



S* Suits, of Onondogi 



B. Hodoe, Esq , spoke of the Bartldt, 

 early into bearing, whether on pear or < 

 pns>e>siog must ut Hi- good qui " 



picking early, and ; 



TLv F(..muh Beauty wu 



very delicious. In Buffalo, #■ 



lined very much, and it is very successful. As to 



the S, ,/.-,!, pk. iuil- i.rmli.i jisiv too iiuieb in its praise. 



W. P. Townsksl. .-aid Louise Bonne de Jersey 



grown as a dwarf, exceeds any variety in produc- 



Vicartif Wmhfidd is thai ii 



■ Iran ii UU.U-. 

 1 the How 

 i aiuabje fruin 



about the quality. The great fault in 

 i of tbe pear is ihut tbey neglect to pick 



soon enough, and In ripening the lex- 

 ues woody and libruus instead of juicy 



IBBXKDIBX- With me tbe Washington 



;ds all otbers. Fruit of tbe highest fla- 

 very year a full crop. 

 inswohth —Would add to what friend 

 has said about the Tyson, that the 



;oung and well. Barthtl -fruit is ( 



each year. Don't think there is any tree that wi 

 exi'el'the &<:kd us to the quantity ui fruit mile- 

 fn-rliup- tli<- Bullied, and Ihe fruit sells at £10 pi 

 barrel. The Firgalitu in Caoandaiguu an 

 Wyoming Valley grows and ripens witboi 

 cracking There are two or three- tree* Ijf'v yet 

 of - - ; 



a barrel of fruil upc 



is at least one-third larger upon dwarfs than on 



P. Barry said this preference among pears is a 



>ecy Jillioull (jiii'-ilion t" decide. The three Jtiii- 

 e i pnl uq u I sites was that the Uc-l-S -hoi.ild I..- Imldv 



and productive, and the quality of the fruit good. 



nly or thirty veurs. The I 



of all pears, ond although it will 

 lVm * most superb gr 



md Lav, 

 IU. In 



perb growth on 



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o. noinjs, tsq., thought ihis a most important 



he would not recommend Vicarof Wmlf.dd tor 



general cultivation. People would not prune the 



tree, or keep the fruit properly. Would recom- 



ndtbe Eatttr Bevrrt for gentlemen who culti- 



e well. It is a tree that needs care and then it 



jne of the finest winter pears, in fact, the best. 



old apple orchards? 



W. P. Townsemd remembered how the old or- 

 chard got all mossv, and his father set hitn to acruiie 

 the bark of tbetr..--s. After working a while he 

 got aick of it, and told bis father if be would lot 



ut average of half a 



l |h«*moM and** lb!" iL*""* l ° *"** 

 mmer turned ibe hogs in upon Hie orchard, 



1 bark na* 





ad HI the thrifts 



es. The fruit it 



iwormi isnowf L . 



By invigorating 



fair, i 



destroy a 



C«mmoo bornj 



Had tried It for 



plied in .befall si 



;very year in the fall 



ids muck would bo useful tu lighten it up 



Apply 25 loads to the 

 iboagbt tb*t in heavy clay 



i Black Cap Raspberry— win 





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H.E.Hookek— This Society hat heard, at a for- 

 mer mretin^, a v e rv elaborate r>i..in bv Mr H. N 

 IK.I.JI.ITTLL af.uut ihe eoliicii.i.in of the Improfd 

 Black Cap, and needs not that 1 should udd to it. 

 I am perruoded, from my ow experience in culli- 

 vuiiiin, that it ti destined to be a verv popular and 

 a very useful fruit; there is scarcely any one of 

 the *m.U. fruits -Inch is so valuable, and the im- 

 proved sort is larger and 



for table use, 



iiijin.-ious porpoM'N lor wtiuli n 1 he Lee per Ijutm 



berries, this is uoequuled. More ol them could 



ftmld he -old of Btruw 

 oi,,e,l,-h, no bulls lobe 



shed oft', and tbey have 



neotiv pn.lilnl.,1,. uo.i ivnr- 



uiieunon oi an fruit growers Sr.ould be 

 planted io roivs six or ei K bl leet apart, (eiubl feel 

 apart i- best.) and the bushes three feet apart in 

 the rows. Fil.-i year ,!,., u |( the eultivaiion with a 

 horso cultivator. Tbe followiog spring tie the 

 plants lo a trellis or to a s'ake. The canes of the 



feet high. 



feet Lugh.s.itiieluiie). even eight or nine feet, but 

 the* oii^ht in ih.il en-e to be lieoh-.l otl at si * feet 

 high. To support these, form a wire trellis about 

 four feet high. 



Bknj Pub thought there was no necessity of the 

 trellis spoken of by Mr. BOOKIE. Grow good 

 strong canes, and in the spring these ihoola be 

 cutback to a point where tbey are stiff ami will 

 be .r the weight of the fruit without support. 



I: II. ii. i. k had some experience in theeulnntiion 

 of the lilack Cap Raspberry and was satisfied that 

 it is one or the best of tbe small fi u>ls The dan- 



plants too thick. Thought with Mr. II en lhu\ 



ronseiuiit leei apart and pl u nH three leet apart io 



aga'n&t a oertain portion of the plants which ore 

 barren. Tbepe con be very easily distinguished 

 by an eye well versed io the 



CATEKPILLAfiS IN WINTER. 



Binou En- -Duni 



Bonib of January last, 



1 Timothy,) from a 



ninth t 





and cured i 



grounds of a young bearing orchard, the eutvro 

 boliom of the slack, which rested upon loose 

 boards thrown apoo the ground, and consisted of 

 a stratum of shout two feet in thickness from the 

 ground was found lo be literally alive with Cater- 

 the product of an ac- 



■d.-.i. 



. but . 



Bpersed through the c 

 and grass-heads themselves, la sue, about an 

 inch long and apparently having been hatched and 

 at work a considerable length of time, and most of 

 them being enveloped, or partially to ; in their 

 web fastened to the spears of hay U)t | resembling 

 in appearance, myraids of spiders nests. The 

 blades of clover and gross were enten to shreds 

 even where seemingly most solid and compact, 



ble, when sifted upon the snow, quantities ef 

 coarse gunpowder. 



I should account for the phenomena of their 

 singular position, by the eggs having been depos- 

 ited on the standing grass by insects from the 

 trees, though great care has always been evercised 

 to prevent their gelling even a foothold in Bnid 

 orchard, and for their premature hatching, by 

 (proceeding from a layering of 



about as far as the insects were found, as is evi- 

 dent from its partial discoloration and somewhat 

 musty condition. Whether or not their opera- 

 tions were for the most part carried out before the 

 commencement of winter, which was hardly of 

 sufficient severity to interfere with their opera- 

 tions in eo snug a habitation, I am unable to de- 

 termine, most of them having tbe appearanco of 

 being in a rather quiescent state, but not all. 

 Some were encased in web, others at liberty and 

 full of life and activity. To all appcaram 





. they 



Afiei 



t has been 



itth-i, u 



n the old c 



a chance f 

 the crown of tbe old. Agreed with 1 



ng tbem. There see 



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go ma 

 eutu 



iL'ht i| lt .|n to Uufhilo Iron 



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been supplied from 



na e tiat$4,0 . 



very desi ruble fruit indeed, and immediately 



Col B Ci FtmsT had cultivated the Ydloio Cap 

 ftaxpbirry for the ' * ' 



tne Black Cap, an. 

 BLACKBEnm 



their valuo, aud the benl methods of pronlngr 



Mr. Barry, being called opoo, said tbe Black- 

 berry was easy of culu: - " 

 a gtmrl soil to produce 

 better. The Nm Both 

 ripe, but preferred the Dorchester for quality, 



lleOUHIhtvil H 



nld (i 



[i i * like 

 Rocbelle or Doi 



g bluckber 



i'erhip-i i 



i length. One of t 

 iv imperfect berri 



, being present, \ 



a days eailier; the early 

 i would not be perfect, llad raised 



ed worthy of cul 



Bad them in'cultivotion 

 produce at tbe rate of fifty 

 They moke a lur^e growth, sotne tunning twenty 



ud wind lo stakes and ln.-i 



b feet apart oue way and eight ill. 

 'em in cultivation six vears. Wil 

 rute of fifty bushel; 



I ThlS 





e Uluck Raspberry. Neve 

 i inch of the wood to be killed by the win 



being n.l.od lu regard 



"tiling to offer partieulai .. 



TheCurruut needed plenty o'f 



ud lie hud nothing to offer partieuliirly 



The 



better quali 



but is not a sny bearer, as it has been called 



times, if properly treated. 



U. E. UoeiKEii thought for market purposes the 

 Cherry was the best currant , its hoe size 01 " 

 pearance make it sell well. It is the most pi 

 variety with the giowers around New York. 



Mr. 'Ainmvohth found the Chtrry Currant verv 

 superior in this respect to Write 



\«\\C lime uttei ripening. 



It also hangs on the bushe3 



Tbe 



Black Currant for culti 

 a Mr. Barry said t 



Annual Meeting should b 



tiety adjourned. Next wee 



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know of oo way of pres/rving Asters or 

 irllowerB. Waxing the stems does oo good. 



r-LES._Everywhere a failure. Tbe apple dis- 

 ease is as fatal aud wide spread as tbe potato dis- 

 eoso in its fullest vigor. Everywhere trees are 

 dyiog — the leaves turn yellow, the twigs dry up, 

 the fruit drops off, or, if it hangs on till mature 

 it is gnarly aud only half size, very often wormy 

 Fine apples, of full size, smooth skins, and good 

 flavor, are the exception, not the rule, in all ibe 

 region that sends fruil to this city.— N. I 



liBUABits.— This will sound very strange to many 

 of our readers in this section of Western New 

 York, where apples were never more abundant, 

 and never more free from blight uod insects of 

 every kind. Apples, however, are almost or an 

 entire failure in many parts oT the country, and 

 those who have a good crop of fall and winter fruit 

 will be able to sell them at a good price. Fall lip- 

 pin.*, Twtnty Ounce, dV, are now bought here by 



- at .- I . 



o low. 



Apples that will keep should not be sold at this 

 price. The story that " everywhere treea ar* dyiny 

 — th« leaves turn yellow, the twigs dry up," tt-e., 

 sounds a good deal like romance — we don't 



COLORING RECIPES -KEEPING TOMATOES. 



Eds. Ri'ttAL:— Being much pleased in reeding 

 the many recipes in your valuable paper, I will 

 contribute my mite, as I think thai 1 bave a 

 cheaper, easier, and more permanent recipe for 

 dying Orange than the one that you published. I 

 would be pleased to have some one give me through 

 the Ki ual, a recipe in full for dj ing a bright, per- 

 manent red on cotton, as rag carpets are all the 



To Color Obaxoh.— Take one ounce of annatlo, 

 and two ounces of copperas, l'ot them both into 

 weok lye*. When they are dissolved, put in about 

 two pounds of cotton cloth, and let it stand in an 

 iron kettle on the etove, where it will be hot, a day 



To Color Blub ox Cottos— One ounce of ex- 

 tract of logwood; 1 oz. of verdigris ; \& az. of 

 alum to 8 lbs. of yarn — boil all an bour and a 

 half, then boil oil same length of time in strong 



A Good Way to Keip Ripe Tomatobs.— Pick 

 ripe tomatoes and put them in a barrel iu a cold 

 cellar or ice-house, then cover them with water, 

 putting a teocupful of good salt to a pailful of 

 water. Put a board and weight over them to keep 

 them under. Serve tbem as fresh from tbe vine. 

 Should tbey be loo salt to suit your taste, soak 

 them in cold water several days, after pricking 

 them with a for k.-R. A. B. 



APPLE CUSTARD, CAKES, 4c. 



Messrs- Ens.:— Having read and tried some of 

 the excellent recipes that have been published in 

 the Rural, I thought Ijnigbt send a few tbat are 

 good. 



ah Cacss. — One and one-half sups Bugar ; 

 1 egg; ! 2 cup butter; ^ cup sweet milk . 2 lea- 

 spoons cream tartar ; l do. soda, and flour enough 



roll thin — bake on tins. 



Apple Ctstard. — Pare and quarter a ciuarl 

 basin full of sour apples, stew and mash fine, then 

 ae teacup coffee sugar ; the whites of 6 eggs, 

 beaten to a stiff froth; Bavor to the last*; best 

 all together and serve with sweetened cream. 



~ 1 some Bdbax reader please send a recipe for 

 keeping htttnaand shoulders after they are smoked, 

 and oblige— C I S., MtU Cfi, Frit Co., Pa. 



