FOREST AND STREAM. 



285 



80s. Becond race, for four-oared barges, won by Ne ptuues in 

 13m. 40a., St. Georges bbOodcI end LOlttmbias third. Third 

 race, for Bingle-scnlls, woo by J. Sullivan, Hunetr R. C, in 

 8m. 56s., beating K. Barry, Columbia R. 0. 



Bav or Quints Rowing- Club, — The first annual regatta of 

 tibia club was held Oct. 24. Digtsnoe two miles with turn. 

 Biogle-aoull akiffs, won by J. TiBdule, beating J. Clark. 

 Diuble-scull skiffs, won by Deniaon and Tiadale, beating 

 fiermanand Ponton. Dooble-ecoU lapstreaka, won byXisdale 

 Brothei , m and Ponton, 



Ins liTUTK Boat Club.— The offleers of this recently organ- 

 ized Newark, N. J., club arc: John Pee, President; Thos. 

 Bryce, Vice-President; John W. Tobiu, Secretary; John E. 

 Murphy, Treasurer. 



Bhok ■wae-cae-mkttb Boat Clot. — This club, of Monroe, 

 Mich., has beau reorganized with the following officers : 

 President, Gen. &, Spaulding; First Vice-President, £. D. 

 Price; Second Vice-President, J. h. Hoffoian; Secretary, D. 

 R. Unmpt in ; Treasurer, U. A. Gonant. 



Si". Louib Rowuro.— The four-oared race for the Finn Cup 

 came off at St. Louis, Mo , Oct, 27, over a course net.rly four 

 mdes long with a turn. The Sextons took the lend, followed 

 by the Marys, at. Johns, Kesolutes, Romeos and Tempests, 

 finally winning hy about one minute. Romeos and Tempests 

 were distanced. Winning crew wa)coniposed of members of 

 the S... Louis club, as follows : B. P. Brant, bow ; David 

 Herrel, L mis Slroker, and Louis Elel, stroke. 



Hakvakd-Tals. — At the recent meeting of the Harvard 

 University Bint Club the challenge for a four-oared race from 

 Tale was accepted. 



Cornell Harvabd.— Cornell University has challenged 

 Tale to an eight-oared race for four miles straight away. 



BOWING KIPPLE3. 



Hanlan, the American champion, will be sent to England 



Boon and will try his luck with the best men there A. sum 



of money is being raised in St. John, N. B., to get up matches 



for Wallace Boss and other scullers of that city Analos- 



tan B. C, of Washington, have paid off their debts incurred 



for hoatbouse. and are happy Ou the Upper Mouongabela 



course, Oct 2S, Al Shal'er and Pat Powers pulled in single 

 sculls. Course, three miles with a turn. Powers won iu 



31m. 35s At St. Mary's, Out., Oct. 34, Win. Adair was 



defeated by John Barclay over a mile course. Time, 7ui. lis. 



Uarvaid has accepted challenge from Yale for a four- 



oarcd race. It will take place Nov. 9 over the New London 



course The Harvard eight of 1878 are in training for a 



passible race with the Euglish University crew of Oxford. 

 At present it does not seem likely that the race will be brought 



about Potomac B. C, of Washington, will join the N. A. 



A. O About time they did Atalanta and Nautilus pans 



row, Nov. 9, over a two-mile course on the Harlem for a 

 prize offered by a stranger. . . . W. H. Downs and J. E. Eustis, 

 of the Atalanta B. O., whose shell was run. down by the tug 

 Peter Orary, Oct 17, 18/7, have recovered damages to the 

 extent of $3 1 5. Tugs will hereafter be more card ul. i\e.\i 

 let Borne of the pestilerous steam launches be arrested for har- 

 assing racing boats, and courses will be kept clear c,vun 



Morris challenged Warren Smith, of Halifax, but has beeD 



put off till next spriug W. Elliott, champion of Eugland, 



and J. Higgins, ex-champion, will row over the Tyue cham- 

 pionship course, Pel). 17, 1879, for the championship, £400 

 and the cup, presented by the Loudon HpurUman, now held 



by Elliott At Troy, Oct. 24, over a two-mile course with 



turu, Tompkins, of Greenbush, beat Kennedy, of Cohoes, in 



10m 43s About $1,100 was laised at a benefit at the 



Howard Atiienamui, Boston, for Reagan's family. 

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CORINTHIAN CRUISERS. 



~ New York, Oot. 95, 1678. 



EDITOn FOBEBT AND STREAM : 



In answer to your objections to my former letter, lot mo quote 

 Marett, a standard English authority on yacht designing. He, in 

 speaking of English yacht otuba, says that they " are at this time 

 (1872) placed in an anomalous position. The members individu- 

 ally are unanimous in opinion that the present class of dipper 

 cutiers are deficient in every requisite of a good yacht except 

 speed. Even those who possess such vessels are frequently 

 afraid to trust themselves in their own oraft; but, collectively, they 

 agree iu shutting their ears to any improvement whatever. Vir- 

 tually, no rig but the cutt6r, with itB immense and ridiculous bal- 

 loon sails, is to contend in their races ; nor is any but the most 

 exaggerated form of hull permitted to _enter the lists with any 

 chance of success." 



Again, regarding breadth, he says : "A vessel relying on con- 

 structive qualities (i. c, breadth) for stability has many advan- 

 tages over the deep-formed yacht. Sho will, besides drawing less 

 water, require less ballast, bo lighter, easier and drier at sea, 

 have greater platform space, will work quicker, and will sail with 

 less inclination. On the other hand, the deep, heavy yacht will 

 have greater height of cabin, will perhaps be faster to windward, 

 and, in a match hi narrow waters, her weight will give her an ad- 

 vantage over her lighter opponent, and Bhe will shoot fariher iu 

 stays. It is, however, difficult to believe that the narrow form 

 would have been countenanced but for the tonnage law, which 

 gives such great advantages to a narrow vessel, and has prevented 

 the wider yacht from receiving that attention which its qualities 

 demand." 



Again, iu speaking of the extreme cutter, he says: "Their 

 chief characteristics were the raking stern post, great fineness of 

 the water liueB at both extremities, great draught of water, a re- 

 duction of breadth, lead ballast and enormous sails. Although 

 the object of speed was attained by these means, it was met by 

 serious oountei balancing evils. There is little comfort at sea in 

 euch vessels ; the great weight of ballast makes them plunge 

 heavily, they are wet, require a numerous crew to work the sails, 

 and there is comparatively little room below for the owner." 



V r ou say : " To drive his enoimoiiBly wide and deep boat at fair 

 speed, assuming for the moment that such were attainable, ha 

 will require an immense spread of canvas, a necessity which we 

 cannot by any means approve, much as ' Corinthian ' seems to 

 glory in the big sails his ideal cruiser will stand up to. On the 

 contrary, does it not betoken higher skill to so model a craft that 

 she can be easily driven and will call for short canvas only?" 

 While I glory in the enormous spread my vessel can carry easily, 

 I olaim that she oan be driven faster than your cutter type of ves- 

 sel with the same spread of canvas, especially to windward, sinae 

 I propose to have always an American-shaped vessel for my largo 

 bulk, viz., large bulk with small displacement, the very antipodes 

 of th« •utter, Moreover, let us look what vessels have developed 



great Bpeed in these waters: flret, lrcel schooners, the famous 

 America, aad the Sappho, after being hipped by Bobt. Finn ] then 

 centreboard schooners, the celebrated Come.', and ther Palmer ; 

 of sloops, the Arrow, Grade, Maria (old Vision before altera- 

 tion) and Tixen. What do we find iu their construction? Simply 

 great, beam and bulk with small displacement. 



Let us Bee the speed developed by your cutter type with (his 

 clasB of vessel. When the fauions America visited English 

 watere and met their celebrated clippers she was first. Who next ? 

 In fact, the race was a farce. The Sappho also was first iu their 

 own waters. When the plucky Ashbury brought his cutter yaoht 

 Cambria to these waters, he found himself and yacht out-sailed 

 by our whole fleet iu rotation. What was the consequence ? 

 When he returned he brought the Livonia. Was she a cutter ? 

 No; all who ever saw her would not hesitate a moment in pro- 

 nouncing bar an American type of veaoel, of the usual character- 

 istics— largo bulk and small displacement. That she was speedy 

 there was no doubt ; and even to this day, in thinking over her 

 race* iu these waters, I donbt that the Livonia could be beaten hy 

 aDy keel vessel of her size in our possession, unless by the 

 AmeriaS ; and the result of all her matches for the Queen's Gup 

 proves simply, in my mind, that she was over-matched in size by 

 the Sappho and out-rigged by the Columbia. 



We huve, of our native cutters, the Vindex, of purely English 

 type, large displacement, small bulk, with enormous sails, every- 

 thing perfeot in your mind, no doubt, in hull and rig. This much- 

 raced vessel, if she has ever shown any speed, except by herself 

 and on paper, remains to be vindicated. Also the Muriel, Vo- 

 latile and Petrel. These vessels I have never seen sail, and can- 

 not speak of their performances personally ; but I am informed 

 by yachtsmen who have often Bailed in company with them that 

 they are remarkably slow for their length. 



Further, iu your comments you tell me to lop off three feet of 

 beam and add six feet of length to my ideal cruiser. I answer 1 

 do not want a 40-foot yacht ; such a vessel requites an extra man 

 before the mast, whioh I cannot afford. Besides, I do not wish 

 to go beyond my class, which is limited in my club to thirty five 

 feet. While I admit that I would rather for speed have six feet 

 more length than three feet of beam, provided always Bhe war 

 not cutter shaped, I positively deny that three feet lopped off the 

 beam of my chubby little ship, as you designate her, with same 

 length of keel, would improve either her room or speed. On the 

 contrary, my wider vessel would walk away from the same vessel 

 with three feet less beam, from a oalm to a gale. 



you say more length and less beam would admit of more free- 

 board without deteriorating from her beauty. I admit such to be 

 the case, providing I take as my standard or beauty the English 

 cutter. But I must say I cannot do so, but regard the America 

 type aB my beau ideal of beauty in a yacht. Bat as " handsome 

 is that handsome does," I will say that when it happens uudsr- 

 weigh that I meet a vessel about my size, whioh frout to leeward 

 gradually approaches my vessel, it is astonishing how Boon I. as a 

 yachtsmen, can see fine points and lines of beauty about a craft 

 which would be but ordinary, provided Bhe approached in an op- 

 posite direction. As to the multiplicity of gear wbich you sa> 

 harasses '• Corinthian," I must say that I cannot believe you have 

 ever been aboard of a full-fledged cutter to make the sta ement 

 '■that it consiBts of one halliards and a light down-haul," over and 

 above ordinary Bloop rig. By count we find in a 30-ft. Bloop with 

 four sails, 3 double blocks, 17 single blocks, 17 halliards and 

 sheets. A cutter of the same size, with five sails, requires 4 

 double blocks, ii single blocks, 30 halliards and sheets. 



You oondemn the uusightly cockpit, and mention the Mohawk 

 as an example. In this connection I will say, if I am not much 

 mistaken, the unfortunate mishap to that yacht is inapropos. she 

 having a flush deck with wash-streak as you advise, and no 

 cockpit. 



Having answered your objections, Mr. Editor, to my ideal 

 cruiser, I will say, now in conclusion, however much I would like 

 to convince you, mathematically and theoretically, as well as prac 

 tvcally, that the English type of vosset is all wrong, either foi 

 speed, comfort or sea-going qualities, and that the modern type 

 of Auierioan vessels approximates correctness. Also, to demon- 

 strate the fallacy of statements given as facts in a late issue oi 

 your valuable paper, " that the Bhoaler a vessel is the less she 

 will sail upon her bottom." Also, to give you greater respect foi 

 what is known among yaoht builders and " ubiquitous experts " 

 as a long floor, etc., by demonstrating its utility and necessity to 

 speed, and by showing you how easily obtained iu any type of ves- 

 sel. Also to demonstrate why some vessels cannot bo steered 

 with a tiller, and many other items of interest to yaohtsmen, 

 upon which you oomment without offering any other l emedy than 

 your panacea for all ills— the English cutter. All this would take 

 time and space, 80 I «ill only, on some future day, describe a 

 short oi uise in my ideal cruiser in company with your cutter. 



CoBiNrsiiN. 



"Corinthian" is hardly logical in comparing the performances 

 of two yachts of the same length, one much smaller than the 

 other, and claiming the right to put unlimited beam on his 

 boat. He cannot deny a competitor the privilege of putting 

 the same bulk in length should he so desire. Equal size 

 must form the standard of comparison between different 

 types, not any single dimension. The facts brought forward 

 by " Corinthian " conclusively show the fallacies aDd ten- 

 dencies of all length measurement rules, a matter for which 

 our valued correspondent is fortunately not responsible. P. 

 Marrett is obsolete as an authority. But our readers will be 

 happy to get under- way with him and take the promised spin 

 in his craft as soon as he is ready to pipe, " All hands up 

 anchor." 



CORINTHIAN CRUISERS. 



Editor Forest and Stream : New "Xork, Nov. I, 1878. 



I have read with much interest the communications that havB 

 appeared of late tu my favorite paper, Fobest and Stkeam, in re- 

 gard to yacht models. Some three or four years since I used to 

 air my views iu company with " Podgers," " Big Topmast" and 

 others in a contemporary, but of late I have been experi- 

 menting hi a (at least to me) new direction, viz., in a small keej 

 boat twenty-five feet long, with a modification of the cutter rig. 



[ti fact I onn say that I am the firat who appeared in New York 

 Bay with a. fore-staysail and jib to my craft, except Vtndtx; Hit as 

 *■ big 'un," as Rip says, "we won't cuunt her this time." 

 I have owned boats of various kinds for twelve years last 

 paet, and have sailed all the water from Cape May to Nantucket 

 and I have now a notion of building me a craft snllable for Buoh 

 sailing, a little fellow, about 28 to SO feet overall, iu which my; 

 self aud a boy will constitute •' captain, orew, midshipman, mate 

 and bos'n tight." 



I want a craft that is suitable and safe for the Bailing I ean do 

 in a three weeks' vacation, and that at the same time C3n go do«n 

 the bay in a Corinthian or club race as fast as any small boat that 

 carries stationary ballast. Fellows that shift weight are no boat- 

 men anyhow, and I care nothing for their opinions and do not 

 wish to hear from them; but I should like to hear further from 

 *' T. C." and " Corinthian," as the one has had much experience 

 with the "biindman's" boats, and the other is au advocate 

 both width and depth; and, undeniably, Mr. Editor, if we bin 

 combine those two qualities in a email boat it will add to our com 

 fort when on a cruise. So, by all means, "Cjiiuthian, 1 t.otout 

 your cruise and let's see wh»t you can say for your Bide of the 

 question, and I promiae, after election, to give my experience in 

 1 rattle-traps " and small cutters. Capiaiw. 



§he §mm_o( §hess. 



None p.— Chess exchanges, communications aud solutions should be 

 addressed " Chess Editor Fokest and Stheam, P. O. box 54, Woleott- 

 vuie, Conn." 



Problem No. 30. 



Motto : De d With Us Gently. 



solutions I 

 1— P ties Q 



< mate in three a 



. .„KMS— HO. at. 



Game No. 80.-c.l-._1AN DEFENCE. 

 White. Black. 



Rev Mr P.erpolot Mr Tuorold 



Whit 



1-PKt 

 ■2-Ki-i; BS 

 8-P Qt(.g 

 4-yt_ 3 p 



li— lil-BS 

 7— P-fc.5 

 «— BQ3 

 9-fc)-lv2 

 HJ— P-K Rl ;e) 



1-P-QBj 



2-P B..1 



3— P I KB P 

 4— lit li til 

 S-B B4 

 8-P 0> (h) 

 7— K 2. -&i 



s— Kt-Kia 



9— P-Q RS 



10-Q-..-2- 



l-BtksKt(d) 11— MPiksB 

 12— BBl W-b-ua 



3 - P-R.1 13— Cables Q R 



14-RCJ 

 15-B K(5 

 1(5— P n. Kt4 



17— P IK, R 

 1S-P Kl4 (h) 

 IB— Kt r ^ 



■-« «- K.t (1) 2J-SJ it 



14-KB4(ri 

 ID i'-B,,;,, 

 l..-R.K,B(s 

 17-P.ksKP 



IS-KllKa i- 



W— ^i ika Peti 



21— lit- 

 2i— P-B4 

 23— i. 03 

 2i-K W 



25-R-y a 0) 



2,-Sl-„3 



i Ktch 



2t-P-lii.il 



a^-y-jio 



2 — Si-BICh 



Co) -Some loss of time ia occasioned by thi3 continuation, and therefore 

 .i dltaintl ton uf the opeuing advantage. 



(t>) Waicli offers to give up a P, and I see nothing to compensate. It 

 ispossib.e that Mr. Tuorold, iu writing out the ga ue, trausposed hu 

 s.xih and seventh moves. This is rendered the more likely as While 

 u.es not take the P, 



(c) This spendtarif t advance may lead to a dinner on husfci. 



(d) Having given up his po.-iflou fur an attack, he is obliged forth- 

 with tu glVtf up his aitack in order to save his P. 



(e) Not purpeoeless, though obscure. Oae of the motives may be to 

 invite ihe advance uf the lit P, with the idea that it in.y then ue induced 

 Co go a step further lo Kt5, after which i<lack may hope to bring his Kt 



oLiudhy the way ot K2 to Hi. Auuther purpose may be to provide 

 Bgahist lit-ii K'.S; lor li it be played there now, B ack answers with 

 P-B3, followed afier Kt5 L-y R B, aud withdrawing the li wheu the lit 

 ens. It is piobable al^o that Black proposes, if allowed, .o p.ay tha 

 K-B4. and Ihen sacrifice it for the K. K'. 



(/) Bo.d, but certainly not reckless ; for If White go.for the P, then 

 8KB initiates a hopeful attack afterward. Moreover, some time or 

 other— viz , when ihe <J P Is suillcionily secured— P-Ki would have Ita 



ii,i) Tnis well conceived sacrifice must be looked upon as a part of th« 

 main idea, for the adverse K Kt P was always a factor io he re toned 

 with Blaca, who, as will be perceived, obtains thereby a must tormtda-. 

 ole centre. 



{.h) This may seem to be a mistake, but in all probabllityjit Is played 

 in order to get rid of that menacing Pat £4. A dread/u ly broken np 

 position is the consequence undoubtedly, but he would have a knotty 

 maitress to iie upon whatever course had been adopted. 



(i) Had the K moved, Kt-Q5 would have proved troublesome j ana, 

 for that matter, eo might Kt-li8, the latter being more particularly In 

 point of K.-B. 



(j) There is nothing to be done— the game is palpably lost, 



t,k) A neat finishing touch. One does uot often sec such a gay gam« 

 isaue from the Sicilian Defence. 



The spcoial trains for Ii.,itford, ttpringtteld and the North, running 

 to and from New Haven, in conucctton with steamers leaving Pier 

 Xo. 26 E. R., have been Withdrawn for the season. The New Haven 

 steamers (which are heated throughout by steam) will leave ai u»ual at 

 3 p. M. and 11 p. M. Passengera can connect with trains for N.irth and 

 East by taking horse cars from steamboat^ dock to railroad depot.— 

 [Adv. 



