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FOREST AND STREAM. 



Elmira, Oct. 31. — 110th Battalion range ; company match ; 

 teams of five ; Blate model rifle; 300 and 500 yards"; i 

 five j weather cold, with strong wind from 5 to 9 o'clock ; 

 won by A Co. ; score : 



200 800 T'l 400 600 T'l 



Sergt Bunnell IB IS 33 Priv L Boughton 17 IS 80 



PiivWRnan 16 17 33 Oapt Root 16 11 27 



Corpl'itutan 17 13 au 



Tetal 15J 



Glass Balls for Gallery SnooTixa. — The marksmen 

 here have been trying their skill at tbe glass balls, and not- 

 withstanding the fact that there «u-e many obstacles to over- 

 come in shooting at the balls from the trap in a gallery, the 

 scores fairly rival the records of field practice. The follow- 

 ing are scores made in trap shooting with rifle, the shooter 

 standing ten yards from trap, balls thrown vertically : 

 Pierre Lorillard, Jr., 8 consecutive balls ; Mason Mitchell, 8 ; 

 E. G. Murphy, 7; W. D. Meltcan, 0; Hon. Sherman Smith, 



5 in 10 shots; H. D. Berdell, 4 In 8; H. D. Blydenburgh, 



6 in 8 ; E. G. Murphy, 3,3 in 30 ; James E. Long, 9 in 15 ; 

 H. A. Perns, 7 in l« j (J. Coverette, 5 in 13. Another 

 favorite feat is shooting at a ball swinging, distance 20 yards ; 

 a trifle less difficult than trap shooting. The following is the 

 record of the consecutive hits : Hon. Sherman Smith, 11 ; 

 J. B. Blydenburgh, Bj P. G. Pullgraff, 7; Fred. Alder, 5; 

 "W. H. Dunlap, 6 ; T. Fitz, 4 ; J. P. Drummond, 3 ; H. A. 

 Vaughan, 3 ; J. A. Ward, 3. The pistol experts have also 

 had their ''shot " at the balls suspended, distance 60 feet, and 

 managed to hold their own, Frank Lord hitting 9 balls out 

 of 12 shots, and Geo. Cooper shattered five in succession. 



Sippenfbldt Riflb Club — 177 Bowery N. P., Nov. 1. — 

 Creedmoor rules ; distance, 125 feet ; bull's-eye, lj inch: 



Wm Seppenfslrlt 47 Eu Story 43 



A H Anderson 45 C liasir 4S 



R Richards 46 T Woker 41 



1 Garrison 45 G Strapsaer 40 



,T W Adams 48 F Scball 4n 



E Holty.mann . 45 U Laiug iU 



J8cliuei2 45 J Haas So 



GC Wallers .44 J Iltlffou 37 



Aug Grueneberg 43 JHoagland 3-* 



LBaelirnan 43 It Kutaenoerg 33 



J K Chambers 43 



Tekth Preoisot Second Platoon Piflk Team— 177 

 Bowery, Nov. 4. — Creedmoor targets, 200 yds. reduced ; 10 

 shots and 50 points possible : 



PBrennan 46 H Gibson B6 



JJCreed 40 E Bayer ;2 



D Ryan 40 WStntt S'2 



jiuhur 4U W Hughes aa 



M-lohti-on 37 CAteae 22 



JHaggcrty 36 



Remington Rifle Club.— We have received too late for 

 insertion in this issue the full scores of the First Annual Prize 

 Meeting of this club at Oswego, N. Y., last week. The 

 scores will appear next week. 



J^ew Jersey— B rinton Range, Oct. 25.— The first contest 

 for the rifle presented was held. The weather was perfect, 

 and very good scores were placed on record by some of the 

 older off-hand shjoters : 



WM Farrow 4S V Daly 40 C H Houghton 37 



A J Howlec 4i! SODumicIl B9 1" J Kattjlie .-7 



F A1 llcr 43 iiM Squire.... 39 A Molrmla 37 



JFBCoIHub 41 B Squire 39 (J K Paimer Si 



RFliaVIS 41 A W Dimock 33 T J L'Oualilaoll 31 



DrJilDort 41 KPCODllu 3S EE Store....... Si 



T J Ryan 41 H Smith 3S J A Hairy 32 



On the 29th off-hand shooting wa9 resumed, this time for 

 the rifle presented by the Winchester Arms Co. In ten shotB 

 the scores stood : 



jTBi'olllna 47 .1 M Dort 39 H Smith. 



B 'quire 44 E E Stors.... 



RP coolln 41 (J smith 



E Squire 3'J JRpenman 



—The long-range match of the opening programme at the 

 Columbia Rile Range, at West End, N. J., was closed on the 

 29th ult. in good style, and it certainly is auspicious that the 

 first long-range score should have touched so high a point. 

 Following is the score : 



f 800 5 5 5 6 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 4 5—75 



B-rMilt Hyde ■< 900 555555 5 56565 15 0—73 



«rwin."j ^ uofl :J s35 555t> s5 6B f> 6-71—211) 



K MStett 3D 



38 PFosrerm So 



36 TJRatche 32 



•{ 



..5 fl 5 5 



5 5 4 6 5 5—71 



ML Morse i 9«° 4 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 4 5 6 2-1 6-1 



55555 4 5354 5-67— «''7 

 .5 5 4 5 6 5 6 b 4 5 5 4 3 5 4—69 

 .4 5555466544454 5—69 

 .44 5 065345853533 -57—195 

 .3 3055644456555 6- 68 

 .4 5453 3444445 6 4 4— it 

 2 5355355545445 4— 61— 194 



Trenton..— On the 31st ult. the gentlemen interested in the 

 formation of tbe new rifle club here met at the office of Col. 

 Lodor with Ex-Mayor Oreveliug in the chair. The Com- 

 mittee on Constitution and By-laws made a report, which, 

 after considerable discussion, was adopted. The name 

 adopted was " The Trenton Rifle Club," entrance fee at $3. 

 The following were elected officers for tbe ensuing year : 

 President, Ex-Mayor Creveling -, Vice-President, W. B. Allen; 

 Secretary, W. H. Skirm ; Treasurer, G. A. Anderson. Ex- 

 ecutive Committee— Mag. J. C. Owens, C. Y. Baniford and 

 Geo. D. Bowers. Finance Committee— Messrs. Creveling, 

 Allen and Skirm. Range Committee— Messrs. Owens, Bow- 

 era and Bamford. Col. Lodor tendered the use of Ids office 

 .for the meetings. 



Suprn Carolina— Charleston.— Almost all of the rifle 

 leaius ;.u the city are making preparations for the approaching 



contest for the prizes, but several teams from both Savannah 

 and Aueusta are to enter, and it is hoped that Columbia will 

 also be represented. As the grounds are beautifully situated 

 on the banks of the Ashley, and almost within the city limits, 

 thm wiU no doubt be a large attendance. In addition to Hie 

 hanrlsome DrizeK already offered by the Fusiliers, Messrs. E. 

 Remintrton & Son and the Sharps Rifle Co. have sent speci- 

 mens of their rili'- ; .'. 5 prizes. The shooting will be at 100 and 

 380 yards with military and other rifles. Ybnots. 



Qhwago —Squads from the Thomas Rifle Club and Lake 

 , e Club liaa a practice shoot at tbe LakeView range 

 onthe lfltu ult. ; 200 yaids off-hand : 

 .rmirtiour U1U44E4 4— 12 Bradley 4 48544444 4—40 



Sg?*i.ijhti"t2 V2£Z:SlliHllltt 



Three of same clubs tried it over again on the 2Uth ult. in 

 u ire 'ivy wind and rain storm ; wind, 10:30 : 



•«* ;:::•-::•■■•': -■■••"'■* HiliiiitZ 



S^Bf i 5 6 3 4 3 4 4 8 4-39 



'•>» ruJ J L»ar. 



Utah— Batt Lake dty.—k four-day rifle match was en- 

 joyed by '..' he Utah Rifle Associat 



ing on the 16i.h ult. with a match at 

 100 and 300 yards, 10 shots each, the scores standing: 



" T'l Ml) 200 T'l 



JSharp.Jr 44 41 S5 .1 H Later 41 as 79 



41 43 84 U. Spiers 40 37 77 



J HeuBScr 48 35 S3 



On the second day, at 300 yards, the top scores stood : 

 G A Meeare 3 



-.4 3 4 



5 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 3 4 

 J 4 



4—61 



. 5— 60 



J Sharp, Jr 3 4314343244548 4—63 



On the third day, with fair weather, the Arsenal Hill range 

 was occupied with mid-range shooting, the leading scores 

 standing: 



John Sharp, Jr 4 556554 5 5 B8566 5—73 



George a Jleturs 2 45456556555 55 5—71 



J Heusser. 3 4554 5 66555565 5—71 



The wind-up match was at 100 and 2130 yards; open to all 

 comers ; seven shots at each range. The totals were : 



100 203 T'l 



05 KWDje as 



64 A t Voir B 27 



63 E H Hesse SO 



51 KF Dunne 24 



01 ZeraSnow 27 



J Sharp, Jr 83 



JH Laliy 33 



Q a meeara 3t 



■I Hcu^aer 32 



W Hemser ha 



11 Spetrs 31 



WANTED, A HUNTING RIFLE. 



It surprises me that some of our prominent riflemakers do 

 not manufacture an arm suitable for hunting purposes. They 

 seem to think every one wants a rifle for long range target 

 and it is impossible to get a rifle suitable for hunt- 

 ing purposes (at least for large game), unless, like Mr. Van 

 Dyke, we can afford to pay $125 to $150, and one built 

 to order. But there are a great many sportsmen who enjoy 

 as well as he to stop the noble siag as he dashes proudly 

 away at perhaps 150 to 250 yards distance, but who cannot 

 afford to pay S125 for an arm capable of doing it, with any 

 degree of certainty. Nor is there necessarily any reason why 

 we should be obliged to do so, so far as I can see, could we 

 induce our Remingtons, Sharps and other noted makers to 

 manufacture the rifle we require; and if they would do so I 

 am contident they would meet with such a demand as would 

 amply compensate them for their venture. 



What, we want has been described often enough — viz. : a 

 rifle of large calibre, say .65 for a single or .55 to .65 for a 

 double gun, weight from 9 to lllbs., burning about 5 drachms 

 powder(nol less), and using the light Express bullet, weighing 

 perhaps one-third more tban a round ball of the same calibre, 

 and taking a cartridge that is as easily reloaded as a shotgun 

 shell ; in fact, a .65 calibre should be made to use the 16-gauge 

 brass shoigun shell. Rifling, deep groove and just twist 

 enough to keep the short, ligut bullet from turning sideways, 

 which does not require as sharp a twist by any means as ihe 

 long, heavy bolt used in long-range target snooting — a bullet 

 hard enough to prevent " stripping " trom its great initial 

 velocity. There is no reason why good, plain, substantial 

 [prion could not be furnished at from $30 

 to $60, according as to whether thty are double or single. 

 Of course, if a person wanted fancy 1'uiish he must pay extra 

 tor it. In last Fokkbi and Sthbam, I notice a communica- 

 tionfrom Ci. W. Davison, of '•Peubody-Martiui" fume, ad- 

 vocating the use of tlieir long and mid-range rifles with the 

 Express bullet on game. Tbey may do very well, considering 

 tlie purpose for which they were built, but it is impossible to 

 get all tne good qualities of a bunting rifle into a long-range 

 target gun, and -Dice verm. The calibre is too small to burn 

 the requisite amount of powder and the bullet not large 

 euougb to impart a sufficient shock to the game. And again, 

 the long-range system of rifling, with its shallow grooves and 

 quick twist, is not adapted to procuring the best results in a 

 hunting rille. One such as 1 have described will be found to 

 give a lower trajectory, shoot more accurately, and prove 

 much more deadly on game. 



Agitate this matter until some of our home manufacturers 

 give~ua the weapon we need, and ut a price within the means 

 of the mass of sportsmen. II. W. A. 



AN ENCOURAGING CRITICISM. 



THE Volunteer Service Gazette, in its issue of Oct. 12, 

 giveB the riflemen of Great Britain an admirable report 

 of tbe Fall meeting at Creedmoor, rivaling in Its completeness 

 the report which was published in our columns. A special 

 American correspondent enabled our contemporary to get 

 things and details straight, while the scores are given in such 

 detail as to give foreign readers a very good idea of the work 

 performed. 



Editorially, our esteemed contemporary discusses the meet- 

 ing and its results in a very friendly way, is frank to confess 

 our superiority in any rifle team stool ing, and give3 some ad 

 vice which is founded on the hard basis of experience, and ia 

 therefore doubly valuable to us. The remarks on the tramp 

 target may cause a ripple of laughter, yet the criticism is 

 more than half deserved, whde the idea that Capt. Bogardus 

 by his feats is supplanting rifle practice in popular estimation, 

 is one of the natural errors of one who judges of events 

 through the medium of sensational newspaper reports. Our 

 contemporary says: 



All English riflemen will, we are quite sure, read with an 

 especial interest me v. -ry graphic and complete account which 

 our New York correspondent sends us of the Fall Meeting at 

 Creedmoor. Blood is thicker than water after all, arid we 

 feel a kind of sympathy with our " kin across sea, ' : which 

 rrobably never feel for nearer neighbors. In the 

 particular instance before us, we must say, however, that we 

 ason for feeling this sympathy. We set to 

 work to shoot with the rifle at long raugs newly nineteen 

 years ago, and, though we say it who perhaps should not say 

 it — 1.0 use the old mock-modest form of words— we have 

 m or even approached to say 

 nothing of being surpassed, either in "any rifle" or military 

 shooting, by anjf European nation. But as soon as our own 

 flesh and blood across the Atlantic took up the cudgels, some 

 six years ago, there was a very different story to tell. With 

 the match rifles they beat us and beat us (or, as they would 

 gay, '' whipped ua "3 over and or>f again, till our best men 

 are at their wits' ends to know whether it is the rifles or the 

 men, or the climate or the team organization, to which the 

 American rictoriee are due. So far as we can see, rifle com- 

 petitions, in our sense, of the term, are left by common con- 

 sent to the Engliah-Bpeaking countries. Even the Swiss and 



the Tyrolese stick to their forth Ger- 



mans and Belgians, though they si; 



shooting-gallery bind 



the soldiers of all continenial nuii< 



shooting systematically. - 



long-range shooting a paBtinio as we II . military 



knowledge, and we may, pi 



of having done so. Our colonies have followed our 



and though last, certainly not least, 



vived its ancient traditions of rifle shooiing, and I: 



them to the requirements of modern tunes. 



^ So far as "any rifles" are concerned, we know that, the 

 riflemen of the United States, especially when v. n 

 gether in "teams," have shown that 



of any opponents. But we have before this urged the Ameri- 

 cans to direct their attention to military rather than to " any 

 rifle " shooting. We are glad to see that the more practical 

 form has become popular, and that, the recent meeting at 

 Creedmoor was essentially a militiny rifle meeting. We have 

 here gone, through the same phases that the Amrneau riflemen 

 are now going through. In ihe first enthusiasm 

 tendency to use nothing but the most, perfect weapon, and 10 

 shoot at nothing but. extreme, distances. But the? 

 arms involve a great deal of trouble, time, and even expense 

 in their use ; and those who can afford, or care to afford, 

 these things, become fewer every year. It 

 rifle shooting is to be a national pastime, it must, be exercised 

 with the arm supplied by the government. We found that 

 out long ago in England, and ail our great rifle meetings de- 

 pend substantially on competitions with m 

 We had some fear that the Americans were a little slow in 

 recognizing the necessity of making the military weapon the 

 principal one for rifle meetings. Their "any rifle "cham- 

 pions had, we confess, beaten the world (;'. e , the United 

 Kingdom: for no other country could furnish a long-range 

 team at all), and are naturally not disposed to rest upon ibeir 

 laurels. In fact, it seems to us that there has been recently 

 rather a disposition in the United Stales to take more imerest 

 in the feats of Captain Bogardus and his imitators than ia 

 likely to be altogether healthy. 



But it is quiie clear from the letter of our correspondent, 

 and from oiher evidence, that military rifle Bhooti 

 ginning to take that place which it ought to lake ut Creed- 

 moor. and in the ranks of the civilian army. The 

 of which we record the proceedings to-day, was 

 merely a military meeting. The greai international military 

 match failed indeed to attract teams from foreign Countries. 

 But it is a very interesting match all ihe same, though ihe 

 difficulty about it, which we always believed must exist, evi- 

 dently made itself felt. Our correspondent (who, \\e may 

 say, is an enthusiast for the principle of ihe match), admits 

 that the winning team had a ureal advantage in shotting with 

 the Sharps-Borchard, while tho second Uam had only the 

 Begulatton Springfield. And this is a diffieuliy which, we 

 fear, can never begot over in such matches. \ou may or- 

 ganize a contest of men, or you may organize a i 

 rifles. But we doubt whether it is possible to arrange i qimlly 

 a competition for both men and rifles. Ii will be admitted 

 that no contest between Suiders and Jlartmi-lltnrys could he 

 equal unless the men were umquul, and Borne inequality of 

 this kind seems to have existed between the Spring held and 

 the Sharps-Borchard. Sull it is impossible to pructi 

 equality, and believing in the Martini-Henry as pi 

 best regulation rifle now existing, we should be glad il a 

 British volunteer team, armed with that weapon, were to try 

 conclusions with their American cousms,arnn 

 Borchard, or any other military weapon, at Urecdmoorin lire 

 autumn of 1879. We believe it would be by no tueans im- 

 possible to get up such a team. We know ihey would have 

 fair play and no favor, and, as our correspondent says, "a 

 right royal welcome." 



We canuot help protesting against the thoroughly had and 

 even mischievous tuste shown by the Creedmoor executive in 

 calling a certain moving target, representing the figure of a 

 man, the "Tramp" target. We all know that the American 

 civilian soldier looks necessarily loi ward to having to deal 

 with mobs rather than with foreign armies; and, moreover, 

 that the " tramp" is a most unpopular pel -■. 

 States. But wo can hardly understand how so glim a joke as 

 that involved in the " Trani] i be tolerated. We 



must admit, however, that though our cousins serosa ihe At- 

 lantic are really softer-hearted than we are, ihey have a taste, 

 to us quite unaccountable, for a truculent ami ghastly fcxm of 

 humor. Half the jokes in tbe more popular ncent American 

 facetiouB books turn upon coffins and churchyards. 



£{* and §ivei[ fishing. 



FISH IN SEASON FOR NOVEMBER. 



KBESH WATER, 



Black Bass, ificropterw mlmoi'ltn; 1 1 fee o 



il. pallulus. 

 Maakalonge, JEaox nobilior. 



SALT TTATBH. 



Sea Bas<", Sciwncpe oee.UatvJi. C'ero. Cybivm regale. 



StrlpeU Base, Raccue Urmmtnt. Bonlto, aarila ptltnnyt 



Weakflali, Cynoaeum ngdltt. Kunjileli, MtntU-irrvt )utrirf**i«. 

 lilueilsrj, Pomateptia ealtatriz. 



Fish n» JIakket.— Baas, 18 ; smelts, 25 ; blueflah, 10 ; Salmon, 

 30; mackerel, frozen, 20: green tnrde, 20; terrapin, pel 

 halibnt, 18; haddock, 7 ; oodBsh,"; biaokfioh, 12 ; floi 

 sea baas, 13 ; eels, 15 ; lobsters, 10 ; sheeaphead, 20 ; frogs. 10 ; 

 Bcallopa, $1.25 per gallon; soft clamB, 30 to 75 eenis per 100; white- 

 fish, 15 ; pickerel, 15 ; Bunflsh, 8 ; yellow perch, 8 ; ealmon trout, 

 15; pompano, 75 ; hard craba, S2.50 per 100. 



Moyemests OP TBH FisrriN'G Fleet.— The nurni. 

 ing arrivals reported at this port the pas) 

 The Bank arrivals number- us. codfish, 



and 10 with 150,00011)3. halibut Number of Georges arrivals, 

 18, bringinu 325,00011)3. eodhsa. In arriving 



fast, 1-1 arrivals having been reported dining the week, with 

 a total catch of 2.900bbls. mackerel.— Cape Ann Adtertiier, 

 Not. 1. 



New York— BheUw Island, Oat. 89.— The w 



week from the 21st to the 20th we 



buni<er-tishing fleet did well, bringin 



goodfreighL l " ',000 each. 



1'wo vessels were in here ,., are of fi.-h. 



The fishing has been more in for many years. 



There are a very large nurnJ 



gaged in the business all along the eastern shores of Long 



