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FOREST AND STREAM. 



perfect In shape, without a bruise or dent, while the soft were very 

 much disfigured or flattened. The gun used was a $75 Parker, 12 bore, 

 9 Iba. weight, choked. The second and sixth shots, given in the table 

 showing the pattern of the chilled shot, I consider wonderfully fine 

 ones, the last one particularly so. The chilled Bhot gave no Blgns 

 of leading In the barrels, while the soft did considerably. The 

 chilled shot possessed an advantage, in regard to numbers, of 

 lust two pellets to the ounce measure, but if we add two pellets to the 

 totals of each round of soft shot, we still find the ctillled far ahead. 

 The old saying pat among gunners, that " heavy powder and light shot 

 gives greater penetration but poorer pattern" will not apply to chilled 

 shot ; for in this teBt we find that the chilled shot weighs to the ounce 

 measure 24 grs. less than the soft shot j and In place of wilder pattern 

 we find a much superior one. We propose to continue our experiments 

 with shot, and also propose to test the various grades of po wder manu- 

 factured by several of our most noted makers. One or two trials made 

 with Dittmar powder, and a mixture of Dittmar and black powder, 

 shows poorer pattern, and penetration far inferior to the black powder 

 —Orange Ducking— used. I shall give the powder a fuller ventilatiom 

 shortly, If time permits. 



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which position is held and made secure by a double bolt, catching and 

 fastening in hooks attached to the under portion of the barrels ; while 

 in the other there is nothing but that litt'e inconvenient bar at the side 

 of the lock— called a lever— and always in the way. 



It is claimed by the advocates of the lockfast— or, rather, friends of 

 the Dougall gun— that it la held more secure and closer in position by 

 said Ultle lever. I would most respectfully ask, How is i' possible to 

 bring two solid, smooth bodies closer than Immediate contact 7 With 

 the Scott gun the barrels are nicely and smoothly fitted, not only water- 

 tight, but also air-tight ; the barrels balancing on this eccentric pivot, 

 and securely held there by a double bolt, it becomes a matter of impos- 

 sibility to detach them till the top lever, which works and controls the 

 bolt, is forced on one side. 



We now have those two solid, smoothly polished bodies brought and 

 held securely in immediate contact, and to talk of recoil of the gun dis- 

 placing them is simply absurd ; because the gun being locked, the bolts 

 in their proper place in the hooks attached to the barrels (which hooka 

 work entirely through the bed of the action plate, without the possibil- 

 ity of any force being brought against the points or ends of the bolts), 

 and requiring the lever on the top to be worked to one side to withdraw 

 them, it would be utterly impossible for the recoil, which must neces- 

 sarily be in line with the gun, to do so. 



Having now, I think, Bhown that the principle Is the same, and that 

 the Scott gun is as sate and secure, and as much a positive action as it 

 is possible to be, I will go one step further in its favor. Every sports- 

 man of experience knows the trouble with breech-loaders to be the 

 wear of the hinge ; that, after more or less use they become shaky and 

 loose on the action plate. Eight here, then, comes in another very 

 great advantage of the action of the Scott gun. Let all doubting 

 sportsmen who have shaky guns take a small piece of paper— from the 

 margin of Fbrest and Stream— not larger than their finger-nail, and 

 place it on the pivot or hinge of their guns, and, wonderful to tell, on 

 closing it there is no more shaking. Unfortunately, the paper only lasts 



few moments ; but, fortunately, it is only necessary to tighten the 

 impensation lump, and he once more has his gnu all right— as good as 

 ew— " a thiDg of beauty, aud a Joy forever." 



The advocates of the lockfast must necessarily advocate high-priced 

 guns, for their pet makers must have their pride aud reputation paid 

 for; hence we find them advising all those unable to procure a high- 

 priced gun for safety's sake to stick to their old muzzle-loader ! Was 

 there ever such nonsense ! Is not a common muzzle-loader as unsafe 



a common breech-loader? Mast we deny ourselves a breeeti-loader 

 because we are unable to bay a $400 Dougall gun? The great portion 

 of our actual sportsmen— those men who kill the game— are compara- 

 tively poor men, especially the Western sportsmen, and a gun to cost 

 $100 would be to them as much as $500 to your wealthy city sportsman 

 It Is a question, not of the makers and agents of guns, but one for the 

 benefit of the multitude of sportsmen, and young men just now taking 

 their flrat lessons. Let me here say that just in proportion to the 

 degree In which the manufacturers adapt their guns In security, 

 acc»ra^y and comfort to the ability of the sportsman, will be their 



Vbnatoh. 



SUMMAEY. 



Penetration of Chilled Shot— Result of Six Shots. 

 Whole No. of shot striking first boards, 123 ; average. ... 20 1-2 



Whole No. of boards penetrated, 144 : average & 



Penetration of Soft Shot. 



Whole No. of shot striking first boards, 96 ; average lb 



Whole No. of boards penetrated, 138 ; average *» 



Pattern of Chilled Shot. 



Whole No. striking target, 1,433 ; average 238 5-b 



Whole No. striking inside 30in. ring, 1,259 ; average 209 5-6 



Pattern of Soft Shot. 



Whole No. striking target, 1,244 ; average 207 1-d 



Whole No. .hiking inside 30in. ring 1 039 ; average 1,3 1-6 



Whole No. of peltetB in 6 ozs. of chilled shot 1530 



Whole No. of pellets striking target in 6 shots 12« 



Whole No. failing to reach target *'* 



Average loss per ehot. . ... "> 



Whole No. of pellets in 6 oz. soft shot. .... 1518 



Whole No. of pellets striking target m 6 shots 1244 



Whole No. of pellets failing to reach target M 



Average Iosb per shot :V"*:;:**". , 



One measured ounce of the chilled shot weighs 456 grains, and 

 one mSSSd ounce of the soft shot weighs 480 V™%£^1 

 one ounce. 



GUN ACTIONS. 



Editor Forest and Stream : 



I am disposed to think that those who discuss in your columns I he 

 relative merits of the •' snap action" and the so-called positive action 

 Have not closely studied the subject; and that the positive action or 

 lockfast, is in no wise different in principle or in security, and far In- 

 ferlor in comfort, convenience and rapidity of firing to the now very 

 famous top-snap action of W. & C. Scott 4 Sons. Let me therefore call 

 the attention of all sportsmen to a closer examination of their merits. 

 Bv taking off the barrels of the two gnns, and placing the lever of the 

 Dougall in the position it occupies when locked. The two actions are 

 then precisely alike, the only difference being in the manner of locking; 

 and In no way involving the principle, both acting on an eccentric or 

 lrrecular pivot, with their longest point toward the breech of the gun- 

 one using a small bar at the side as a lever by which the barrels are pat 

 In their proper pteoe; while with the Scott gun the barrels are the 

 evers, qniokly and pleasantly throwing themselves in proper position, 



PIGEON MATCHES. 



How to Prepare Scores. — To insure insertion in current 

 issues of this paper, scores should be ssnt to as to reach us on 

 Tuesday, and earlier if possible. These particulars should be 

 given and these only : Place, date, name of club, name of 

 competition, kind of trap and balls used, distance of rise, 

 boundary, rules governing, and Weather. Scores are valueless 

 without these. 



Maine— Kennelunk, Xov. 28.— First annual shoot; first match, ten 

 single rises, plunge traps, 21 yards rlBe, SO yarcis boundary; weather 

 very foggy and rainy, aud birds dull : 



W H Cloudman 1 



N Pitts l o 



CW Stanley .1 <> 



J Downs I 



J S Saunders 1 1 



GsoC Lord 1 1 



Geo WLarrabee 1 1 



Cnas Doughty 1 l 



F Pitts 



LMCushman o 1 i i " i « ' i *— < 



Second Match— Same rules and conditions ; Ave birds : 



LM Cushman Oil 1—3 N Pitts 1 1 1 1 1—5 



W H Cloudman lltl 1—5 W Stanley 111 1—4 



J S Sannders 1 1 1—3 Geo C Lord 1 10 1—3 



G WLarrabee 1 1 1 1 0—4 FPitts , 1—1 



Third Match— Sime rales and conditions : 



WH Cloudman 1 



Z MCushman 1 1 



N Pitts 1 1 



Geo CLord 1 



JSSauuders 1 



C W Stanley 1 1 



Wilkinson 1 



1! - B 

 0— 5 

 0—4 



0- 7 

 II- 7 



1- 7 



1 



10 1—6 

 111 0— T 



J 1 (MB 

 110 0—4 

 10 10-5 



1 w— 3 

 110 0-3 



Massachusetts— Quinsy, Xov. 88.— Match shot by Merry Mount 

 Shooting Club, Xov. 28 ; ai yardB rise, plgeonB 



p Curtis 1 llioilll 1—9 Nlghtlngale..0 1 1 1 1 o l 0—5 



Souther 10 11111 1—7 Cummlngs ..0 1 1 1 1 1—5 



jnnes 10 10 11111—7 Colby .101000111 —5 



Chubbuck. ...0 11110 111 —7 Keating 1 1 1 1 0-4 



Maxim 1111110—6 Claris 000100111—4 



\Vnlte * 1110 110 0—6 J Curtis 00101101 —4 



Smdley 1 10 1110 1— S Glover 1 00100110 —4 



F Hardwick..l 01011110 — « E Hardwlck.o 01100010 0—3 



Torn* Ricer, Xov. 28.— A. glass ball match for an oyster supper' be- 

 tween two teams of the Toon Eiver Glass Bill Club. Conditions— 18 

 yards riBe, Bogardus rnleB : 



C Grover J 



E Robinson 1 



T Singleton. 



J Clute . 



GLow 1 « 



AWilsey J 



G Walton ■} 1 



J Robinson 1 1 



110 111 

 10 10 



1110 1111 



110 110 

 110 11 



111111 



11110 



'1 



1- 8 



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1— 7— 36 



Shrewsbury, Xov. 30 — Handicap sweepstakes, 5 traps ; Harllngbam 

 rules: 



F Fisher, 25 yards. ...1 1 1 1 1—5 A Smith, 21 yards. ...1 1 6 1—3 

 CLPutney, 2Syards..l 1 l 1 1—5 Mr. Faber, 2i yards. .1 10 1 0—3 

 Mr Smock, 25 yards ...110 1 1—4 LTenbrook, 21 yards.. 1 1 1—3 

 WNelson, 25 yards.... 1 1 1 1 0—4 C Smith, 81 yards. ...1 1 0—2 



Ties on five. 

 Fisher 1 1 1—3 Putney 1 1 0-2 



Match for marksman's gold badge ; free to all ; 21 yards rise, SO yards 

 boundary; Long Island rales: 

 Smock 111011101 l—s O'Donahae. .0 01111100 0—5 



Nelson "" ..1 1 1 1 1 1 1 l-S Caswell 1 1 B 1 1 1 0-5 



Green.. 1111001011-7 Smith 1 110 110 0-5 



Mason" ..1111110101-7 Tenbrook ...1 u 1 1 -3 



WsBEenBtaff.o 1110 10 11-6 Conover 110000000-2 



Saunders.. ..1101011001-6 -Judson w 



Ties to be shot off at next meeting. 



Amlss-and-go-ont match. Uurllngham rnlea, was won by Mcintosh, 

 first, 7 out of 8, and one dead out of bounds ; Werber, second, 7, and 

 Fisher, third, 6. 



Handicap match, tame rules : 



Charles Pntney, 28 yards 



William smock, 25 yards 



T Mason, 21 yards *, 



F Fisher, 21 yards 



Glass balls, IS yarda rise, Bogardua roles : 



Edgar Green 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 i 1 1 1 1 2— 17 



AuTatej 1 1 1 1 11 1 1 p i l 00 1 J 1 1 l— IS 



W JNelBOT 1 011111 011111 011) 10 1—14 



Mr Smock n oiiiioiiiioiio i" 



Mr Morford 1 1 (1 II 1 1 I 1 1 1 1 1 » 1 n 1— 19 



J C Batten 110101011010001011a 0— lu 



C Waggenstaff 1 oooonni 00011 000 — 7 



Booardus Kills Sevbntt-Five.— Match at Brooklyn Driving Farki 

 Nov. 23, to kill 75 out of 100 birds; SO single rises, 8 traps set 25 yards 

 rise ; 25 double rises from plunge traps ; ioo yarda bounder; 

 powder only : 



BogardUB— Single birds: 11111010111110000*11011 

 111101111111011111111010n« 1—36. Double birds ! 

 11 11 11 10 11 (XI 01 1" 11 11 10 11 11 11 II 11 '1 11 10 01 11—39—75. 



Eeferee— Mr. James White, Fountain Gnn Club. 



Match for silver cap presented by Captain Bogardas to the Fountain 

 Gun Club; 25 yards rise. There were 30 entries. Messrs. Howard 

 and Conover tied on 5 straight a -econd time on one out of three, and 

 then postponed final shoot off until Monday. 



The tie was shot off Tuesday, Conover and Howard each killing their 

 first three; then Conover killed three more and Howard one, thus 

 giving the cup to Conover, who immedij iibeFoun- 



taln Gan Club to be shot for. 



Long Island— Westbrook, Xov. 23.— Sweepstakes at $20 eaoh at 25 

 birds, 30 yard3 rise, from five traps, ly ounces of ehot, SO yards 

 boundary : 



O Livingston 1 1 1 1 U 1 u 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0—21 



W Murphy 1 1 1 1 I n 11 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1— IB 



B DeForest .1 OlOOllloilllllOOl 111 110 1— IS 



Match, $25 each, at five birds, 25 yards rise, from live traps, etc. : 

 RBedmond 111 1— 1— 5 JG Heckseher 1 Oil 1—0-^4 



Handicap sweepstakes, $5 each, at G birds, 2 misses out, from 5 traps : 



u 1 1 —2 



1 —a 



.100 —1 

 g for Coster, 



Hunter, 30 yards 1 1 1 1 1—5 RobiL 



Coster, 28 yards 1 1 1 1 1—6 Lortlli 



Murphy, 30 vards 1 1 1 1 D— i UecK< 



Livingston, 30 yarda ..0111 —3 DeFoi 



Messrs. Hunter and Coster divided, B. I 

 C. Livingston for Hunter, and W. Murphy 



Handicap sweepstakes, Bame conditions as above: 



Hunter. 31 yardB 1 1 1 1 1—5 Robinson, 24 yards. ...0 in —1 



Livingston, 30 yards... 1 1 1 1 0-4 DeForest, 28 yards....] —1 



Murphy, 30 yards 1110 -3 Heeksoher, 26 yards... —0 



Coster, 29 yards 1 110—3 



C Livingston shot for Hunter, B. DeForest for Coster. 



New Jeebbt— Xewark, Woo. 28,— A series of matches were shot at 

 Erb's Hotel, on the Bloomileld Road, today. Classified handicap 

 sweepstakes, 5 birds, 5 traps, Hurlingham rules: 



Bntler,30 yards 1 11 1—4 Bennett, 25 yard3 n 1 1 0-2 



Zeliner. 30 yards 1 1 1 0—3 Lawrence, 23 yards. ..0 1—1 



Levy, 25 yards 110 1—3 Jam-son, 2S yards 1 1 1—3 



Long, 25 yards 1 1 0-2 Walters. 28 yards 1 10 1-3 



Pattmore. 25 yards ....0 1 1—2 Grant, 2.5 vards 10 10—2 



Wlllegerod, 25 yards... 1 10 1—3 



Ties on three. 



Zeliner.... 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1—S Levy 1 1111110—7 



Wlllegerod 11 10 -a JameBon 111110 —5 



Walters 1 — 1 



Same Day— Sweepstakes under same conditions : 



Zeliner, 30 yards. .....1 1 1 I 1—6 Levy, 23 vards 1 1 w 



Butler, 30 yards 1 1 1 1 1-5 Long, 21 yards 1 1 1 w 



Pattmore, 21 yards ....1 1 1 1 1—5 Dodd, 21yaids 1 10 1—3 



Grant, 21 yards 1 Oil 1—4 Jameson, 28 yards 1 110 1-4 



Fox, 21 vards 1 1 1 1 0—1 Walters, 29 jurda 1 1 w 



Liawreuce, 21 yarda. ...1 Oil 1—4 Bennett, 21 yarda 1 1 w 



TlesonivB, 

 Zeliner 1 Butler 01 Pattmore 00 



Same Day— Sweepstakes at 3 birds, under same conditions : 



Grant, 21 yarda 1 l 1—3 Long, 21 yarda .....1 1 0—2 



Hill, 21 yurd-i 111—3 Lew, 21 yards 110—2 



JameBon, 28 yards 1 1 1—3 Walters, 25 yards 1 1—2 



Fox, 21 yards 1 1 1—3 Hodden, 21 yard? 1 1—2 



Zeliner, 30 yards 1 1 1— J Freeman, 25 yards 10 1—2 



Ties on three. 



Grant 111111-8 Fox ill 10 —5 



Hill 111110—5 Zeliner, —0 



Jameson 11110 —4 



Second tie. 

 Jameson 1 111—4 Fox 1 1 1 0-3 



Audubon Club— Buffalo, Xov. 29.— Fifth match for the Sutter badge, 

 Bhot Thanksgiving Day at B. M. Schauta Shooting Park, Buffalo 

 Plains ; 



PHelnai 



C Heiuold 1 



Thos Collins 1 



J P Fisher 1 



JBeier, Jr 1 



S ARonerts 1 



A Cornelius 



FRelgelmann I 



Geo A LewiB 1 



Chas Backoff 



Geo R Vine 1 



M Smith 1 



Al Downs 



Ties on nine, 26 yards, miss and ont. 



Flshor 1 1 1—8 Roberts 1 



Beier,Jr 1 1 0-2 Vine 1 



Second tie, 31 yards, mlsa aud ont, 

 Fisher , 1 1—2 Vine 1 



1—1 

 1-1 

 1—1 

 1-1 



1 l-S 

 1 0—7 

 0-1-7 

 0—0—6 



1 



11 



11—7 



1 1— T 

 110-7 

 111-9 

 111—9 

 1 1 0-9 

 10 1-5 



1 :— 1 



110—6 

 111—8 

 " 1 1—9 



1-7 



1—3 



0— 3 



Fisher.... 



FleaBdee Bat Club— Pleasure Bay, X. J., Xov 23.— Quarterly meet- 

 ing ; match for clubs ; quarterly gold badge ; 5 birds, Long Island 

 rules ; won by Frauk Hobluson with four blrda. 



Morgans, Voil 28.— Sew York amateurs; first match at pigeons for a 

 gun ; 25 yards rise, SO yards boundary : 



Yates 1 11111111 1—10 Woods 11110110 1—7 



Pntney 1 llllllll 1-10 Churchill.... 1 10*11110 1— 7 



Ellis 1 111011111—9 Mason 1 1 1 11 l 1 0—5 



Nelson 1 111101110—8 Martini- 1 1 1 1 1 0—5 



Canton 1 10 11110 11—8 Woods 1 1 1 1 —4 



Ties on ten. 

 Yates 1 1 1 1 1 1 1—7 Putney 1 1 1 1 1 1 0—6 



Sweepstakes, Bame conditions : 



Dr P Ellis 1111111—7 P Hastings 1 1 1 o 1 1— 5 



T Hamilton 1 11111 1—7 W L Henderson ...0 1 10 11 0—4 



W Nelson ..110111 1—6 W Mason ! 1 1 1—4 



R Woods 1 * 1 1 1 1—5 D Woods 1 1 n 11 11 1 0-3 



E Green 1 1 1 1 1 0— C Wagonstafl 1 00011 0-^S 



Ties on seven. 

 Ellis 1 1 1—3 Hamilton 1 1 0—2 



Sweepstakes at gtaB ballB, 18 yards, Bogardas rules : 



THamilton 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 



Percy Hastings 1 1111111111 



AD Gates 1 10 1111110 1 



DrEllis 1 1110 11111 



reu 1 1100111111 



SDGascon .0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 



Mr Coomee 1 0001110 101 



T B Oatth i) 100110 1111 



W Nelson 1 110 110 1 



C Martinez 1 10010100 11 



DWoodB 1 110 0010 1000 — S 



OCLyman 1 00100000 —2 



In shooting the tie Hamilton wen. 



Saturday, Xov. 30.— A Dumber ot sweepstakes were shot bv the Lone 

 Brancn Club at Erb's Hotel. The match between Messrs. Butler and 

 Zeliner va. Messrs. E. G. and W. Murphy, was postponed to I 

 first match was divided by Messrs. E. <i. Murphy and F. Dngro, each 

 killing four ont of five at B0 yards. Mr. Walters got third. The tics were 

 all shot off In the succeeding sweep. Mr, c. Grant came Ln time for the 

 aecond sweep, and, shooting at 25 yards, killed Ave straight, wltming 



1 1 1 1—15 



1 1 1 1—15 



1 1 1 1-13 



1 1 0-11 



10 1— 11 



10 11- ■• 



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1 — t 



