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With Mm; bu fc the reason seems to me a plain one. Th< re are probably 
a hundred light red dogsto one of-any other color called Irish, and us 
the word red was used by the old writers, the breeders and owners of 
Bitch dogs would force on the public the opinion that a dog of any other 
color could not be pure. The old color wilt even be condemned In favor 
of the light, red, and as the latter Is in the majority the weight of evi¬ 
dence, as far as numbers go, will be in favor or It. They are uot satis- 
fled with claiming purity in their own dogs, but would try to prove all 
Others mongrels that did not Come up to the standard of their own. 
This may possibly arise from a want of knowledge, of the Irish setter, 
and in fact the premium lists of some of our late bench shows will prove 
it. For Instance, a class is made up of red set!ers, called Irish, us 
though the red color was the only difference between the Irish setters 
and those of other breeds. This will continue until the Irish setter of 
pure olood is run out, or when premiums are offered for him taking 
ribe anatomy of the dog and his get to be the base upon which judgment 
1b to be built, Georgia. 
THE IRISH SETTER. 
April 11th, !S7d. 
Editor Forest and Stream 
Perhaps there has been enough said on all sides in regard to the color 
L of the Irish setter, but I waut space only sufficient in your columns to 
reply to one or two statements of your correspondent “Charge, 11 and to 
thank him for the kind advice lie gave me. But, perhaps just a Ultle of 
that advice might as well have been kept at home. Pull the beam out of 
your own eye friend ‘Charge, 11 before yon try to takeout the mote from 
& neighbor’s eye. In your letter of the 7th, yon said, “Now, I have a 
copy of h.s author, and have searched iu vain for the paragraph quoted, 
find while 1 do not accuse the writer of a false quotation, I think there is 
aome mistake in this cate.” I am sorry your* search was iu vam and 
lhat it bore no fruit, for had it been otherwise it possibly might have 
saved you the trouble of writing yonr letter. 1 am convinced that it is 
with this color question as with many other' things, that ’‘none are so 
blind as those who won’t sec.” 
i Now, I beg to inform “Charge” that ray quotation was not false, that 
there was no mistake in the case, that T did not say that “Stonehenge” 
Efcpeaks of the great reputation of the Irish setter,” that I have read his 
works through and find he is consistent. Hosvever, I could point out 
Where “Stonehenge” speaks of the excellent qualities of the true Irish 
dog, but we are not discussing that; and bo I’ll pass it. The only proper 
place to discuss that is in the field and before the gnu. 
And now I have a new bit of advice to give you, my friend “Charge,” 
look before you leap, read not only tbjcug i the work, but the works of 
an author when he has more than one on the same subject, ir you, who 
-gives snch good advico, had done this, you would not have looked in 
vain for iny quotations. 1 quoted in my former letter from 1 Idstone,” 
and from “otoneheuge’s” works, whom “Idstone” acknowledges the 
•greatest living authority, and backed them both up byLaverack, and 
•one and all undeniably assert the same thing. I quoted from the best 
acknowledged breeders in Ireland, and the story is the same. 1 ignore 
mo authoritity of modern times, but state my belief upon the side that 
contains the greatest and most trustworthy evidence. Modern authors 
have got the necessary data to establish the color of the Irish setter, and 
If they establish it different from that which certain one6 desire, why, 
then Lhese certain ones try 10 establish a type to suit themselves. But 
to do this is ral her uphill work, and so they will find it. “Charge” 
Would have us believe that “Stonehenge” jb not authority. If he Is 
.not, who the deuce is? It ought to be some one, I suppose, who says the 
Irish setter, Strnou pure, Is lo be found of all colors,. You can make me 
believe that when you prove that “Stonehenge,” “IdsLone,” aud“Luv- 
erack,” did not know what they were writing about. 
If When “Stonehenge” speaks of judging dogs by their color, or rather 
5>f choosing doge by tbeir color, ho does not refer to the color of the 
Irish setter, but only to the choosing of a puppy from a litter, with an 
idea that because it happens to be marked like a noted ancestor, it will 
also be a noted dog. And now a parting, word, my kind friend 
“Charge,” and l too am done on this cojpr question. Don’t ever again 
;Mvise a friend to read through the work of an author until yon have 
^yourself read not only the work, but the works, of that author. It is not 
Jrcm the reading of one book we gather knowledge, but from the read¬ 
ing of many. One swallow does not make a summer. Iain glad 
i M Charge,” that you desire to investigate further search among modern 
[liters, for iL is too evident that there are tioiM who need to make that 
fegarch. Mont Clare. 
ANOTHER WAIF. 
West Philadelphia, April 20th 1S70. 
Editor Forest and Stream:— 
I notice iu Kennel Department, of Forest and Stream of April 20th, 
1876, that Mr. John T. Underhill claims tne name of “Waif” for his black 
€eLter dog with white nose and feet. Although I do not suppose but that 
there can be lOOdogs named Waif, this name rightly, and at the same time, 
Almost a year ago was giveD to my orange ticked setter dog, out of Gilder- 
fileeve's Nellie, by Pride of the Border. Waif will be one year old May 
26th, 1876, and whh.hU sister Grphina, was raised by me on the bottle, 
never having su< lriel their mother, and for the reason th it they were 
niotherless the names above were given r T. Kqan. 
[Mr. Roan’s dog certainly seems to come rightfully by 
the name, and, no doubt, Mr. Underhill would “waif'’ his 
•claim to it. However, as the dogs are of different strains 
and colors, and are widely separated we question whether 
► it is of much consequence.—E d.] 
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CENTENNIAL BOATING NOTES. 
[from otjr own correspondent.] 
I’jiu, M)ELi'inA, Apvfl 24th, 1878. 
r. The arrangements of the Committee for the Centennial 
Regatta are going steadily forward. Of course no entries 
have as yet been received, nor at this time can any be ex¬ 
pected. The crews that are certain to he here from Groat 
Britain, as guaranteed by Col. Sanford of the British Com¬ 
mission, are not yet announced. This much is known, 
however, that Dublin will send from her two clubs one 
lour, and a sculler (Mr. Labat). During their slay they 
will be the guests personally of Commodore Ferguson, 
and as a club, of the Bachelor’s Barge Club, where their 
boats will be quartered. One of the other fours will be 
from Cambridge, and another from the London Rowing 
Club. The remaining one will be from eilher the Leander 
or the Royal Chester. I hope in my next to be able to 
give the names ol: the crews, or at the very least, say 
authoritatively what.clUhs the crews will represent. France 
is certain to be represented, as her champion sculler will 
come alone, if he cannot bring a four-oared erew as he 
hopes to do. If the Schuylkill Navy would arrange for 
all the races that'are proposed there would not be lime in 
the whole summer to row them. 
The' Committee has been asked lo make a place for 
barges, four-oared, six oared, ten-oared, and twelve-oared; 
for a whale boat race; lor a canon race, and are daily ex¬ 
pecting to receive an application to offer a prize for a race 
open to Chinese junks. 
Crews are coining from everywhere, witli all sorts of 
boats, but how the Schuylkill Navy is going (o house and 
care for more than those who will accept their invitation 5s 
more than any one can say. 
Places- will, no doubt, be made for a number of races 
other than those on lliu programme, but the Regatta Com¬ 
mute caunot be expected to provide prizes for them. 
The Freshman’s Rowing Association, of Halifax, would 
like to see the professional races rowed on the Delaware, 
so that a five mile course could he secured, hut the pro¬ 
priety of of an association culliug themselves the Schuyl¬ 
kill Navy, and organized as it is, holding a regatta on the 
Delaware is more lhan doubtful. According' to the circu¬ 
lar of the Committee the aroounlo of the purses for the 
professional races should be announced by tbe first prox¬ 
imo. This amount is not rapidly forthcoming, hut before 
the 11th has passed no doubt it will ho all in hand. The 
amaLeur prizes have all been selected, and the designs 
promise the handsomest ever offered, 
Mr. E. R. Craft, of the Argouaulu Club, has beeu very 
active in furthering every interest of the regatta, and if, 
outside of Philadelphia, a half dozen others on whom the 
Committee has as great claim, would exert themselves as 
much all trouble would be ended. tcui.LS. 
--- 
—We are informed that die report which has been 
published recently, to tile effect that Mr. Eldred, stroke of 
the Argonauta srew, who was so Unfortunately shot while 
in Florida, will be unable lo row again, is incorrect. Mr. 
Eldred will in all probability retain Iris place in the crew. 
—Gosling, the champion oarsman of France, will lake 
part in the Centennial regatta at Philadelphia. 
—The Baltimore boat-clubs intend to make the season 
active. The Undines have already challenged the Anels 
and L’HirondetIGes to a four-oared shell race in June. 
—Tim Boston and City Point clubs are now iu daily prac¬ 
tice on the Charles River for the race on May (itli. 
—It is said that the Cambridge winning eight will visit 
this country, hut we doubt their coining as an eight. 
—The sloop yacht Undine, Brooklyn Yacht Club, went 
down the bay Saturday afternoon, and the schooner yacht 
Comet, W. H. Langley, New Voik Yacht Club, made her 
first trip for the season the same day. 
—Gilbert Smith, of Hempstead, has just completed a 
handsome new sloop yneliL, rigged in first-class style, 31 
feet keel, 14 feet beam, and fii ieet depth of hold. Bite is 
called the Josephine. 
—II. Floyd Johnson, of East Rockaway, has just com¬ 
pleted asloop yacht 30 feel keel, 37] on deck, 13 teot beam, 
and 3 fict 2 inches depth of hold. 
—An entertainmont itt aul of the Harvard University 
crew will be given under the auspices of the Harvard Club 
of New York City, at the Theatre of the Union League 
Club, Monday, May 8th, at 8. o’clock, Tickets can be pro¬ 
cured by addressing Montgomery D. Parker, 21 Brevoort 
Place, or at G. P. Putnam’s Sous, Twenty-third street and 
Fourth avenue; price $2. 
—Through an oversight, the new edition of the Consti¬ 
tution and By-laws ol' the National Association of Ama¬ 
teur Oarsmeu does not contain the proper text of Regatta 
Rule No. 2. The following is the true wording of the 
section, as recommended by the last special meeting of the 
association, and adopted at a meeting of the executive 
committee, held January 20th, 1870. We would suggest to 
our boating readers that they clip it out and put it in their 
copy of the “Manual,” if they possess one;— 
2. Any member of the club to which the individual 
Whose status is being investigated belongs, who shall be 
required to so do by tlio committee having the matter iu 
charge, shall furnish said committee will! his written decla¬ 
ration upon honor, that to the best of Iris knowledge and 
belief, the oarsman in question is e-ligible under the associ¬ 
ation's definition of an amateur; and if an entry is de¬ 
signed to be made for a regatta, that he has been a mem¬ 
ber of the club from which he then proposes to enter, and 
has not been entered in any race from any other club, lor 
three months preceding the date of said regatta. 
Answers §a ^or^es^ondent^. 
No Notice Taken of Anonymous C’oimmmlcailouH. 
L. V.. Beverly, Mpsh.—W ill you please inform me through your 
paper what to do for weak eyes in a young dog? Ans. Take of borax 20 
grains; camphor water, 2 oz.; bathe his e^ as with this two or three limes 
a day. 
II. G. t T.* Springfield, Ma3s.—Will yoa favor me with yonr opinion us 
to where I can find the best description of spaniels cockers, springer, 
Irish water, mid tMtIvLT6? Aws. Stoucliuuge on the Dog, published by 
Let* & Shepaard, Buslon. 
L. H. J., Quindy, 111.—Do yon Ibiuk the Frank Wesson 32-calibre 20- 
inch barrel pocket nfltf accurate at 200 yards, aud of whom can I get 
them in Chicago? Ans. 200 yards is rul-her too far for a 20 inch, barrel. 
Yon cun buy them of almost any gun Ciealei! In. Chicago. 
Frank, Allentown, Fa. —1. Where can I get a paper that is all full of 
Gan Dealers and Ammunition? 2. Where can I get the Cape Ann Ad- 
MHuerf Anti. 1. We know of no piper that is devoted exclusively to 
Guns and Ammunition, 2. Published at Gloucester, Mass., every Satur¬ 
day. 
Scmari, N. Y.—Wlitsramm I purchase a good railroad map of Ohio 
and Pennsylvania, Which give a names and populations of post offices 
under 5,000; also state the price of such, if known? Ans,* FromGr 
W. & G. B. Gallon* No, 172 William street, this city-; pikes from 50c. 
to $1.50, 
IIenrt, Cambridge, N. Y.—I intend to take a trip to Oregon soon. 
Which is the best route? Where will I find the best salmon and trout 
fishing? Ana. Kail to San Francisco, and thence steamer to Kalama on 
tbe Columbia; thence rail and river to beat fishing points, both for trout, 
and salmon. 
Extractor, Newton, Mass.—T have a finely-made, double-barreled 
breech-loader, 12 gauge, 80-inch barrel. A friend advises me to have 
the barrela shortened to 28 inches. Do yoa do the same? Ans. We 
consider 30 inches lhe proper length for a barrel, and would not advise 
you to reduce it . 
B. A. M.—Will you please Inform me where can be bought bamboo- 
cane, and also live qnail, and what would be the price per doMen? Ans. 
You can buy bamboo of Messrs. Gfthroy, Bissett «fc Mallesoii, No. 65 
Fulton street. Too late for live quail. Messrs. Whitley & Morris, of 
Wathingtou Market, deal in them. 
J. A, B„ New* York,—Will you be bo kind as to tell me tbe weight of 
the sneak boat spoken of in yonr issue of tbe 2d nit., and If it would 
sland being made of 4-inch boards, instead of Ans. We do not 
know the weight, but will ascertain; I inch boards would be rather light, 
but if properly ribbed and fastened, would answer, 
A. B. M., West Meriden.—Please give me some good receipt for water¬ 
proof blacking or boot grease. Ans. Take } pound of shoemaker's 
dubbing, 4 pint linseed oil, J pint strong solution of India rubber. Dis¬ 
solve the whole with a gen lie heat (it. is very inflammable), and apply 
with an ordinary blacking brush. One application will insure dry feet 
for several mouths, 
H, H.J., Greenwich. 1. Where can I get the book, American Ken¬ 
nel and Sporting Field, by Arnold Burges, and what price? 2. Where 
cun 1 get Dinks, Hutchinson, & Mayhow, and price? Which is tho best 
by which lo train a young pointer or setter? Ana. 1. From Messrs. J. 
B. Ford & Co., this city; price $4. 2, We can Bend it; price $3. Both 
contain instructions for breaking. 
Fisher. Alleghanv, Pa.—Where can I find good fishing for bass, etc., 
in the vicinlcy of Pittsburgh? Ans. At Oomeant Lake. Take Pitts¬ 
burgh & Erie Railroad to Transfer Junction, then rail to Evunsbnrg and 
a hack tw*o miles. Go to old Phil Miller’s house. He will minister to 
all your wants at low rates. Distance is about 100 miles. Dou’t know 
of any good bass fishing in the rivers. 
C. L. I. Philadelphia,—Will you please inform me when the ^Cata¬ 
logue of Onns and Game Laws of all the States, and Summary of the 
London Gun Trial,” advertised by- II. G. Squires us “ready March tat,”' 
Will roally be ready? I sent for it two months ago, and have noi received 
ityet-. Ans. The catalogue wUl be Tanned within two weeks. It has been 
delayed in order to get some cuts from England, 
M. O. W., New York. 1. Do yon think I would find any ducks or 
sntpe on the Now Jersey coast, between the let and 15th of May, and if 
so what kind? 2. What size shot do yon consider best for ducks? What 
for snipe? 8. Would it be neepssary to have a boat to hunt ducks In. 
and would I have to have a gnide? Att*. 1. Rather late for ducks and 
snipe. 2. No. 4 for ducks; No. 9 and 10 for snipe. 8. Yes. 
Sauto, Windsor, Nova Scotia.—Is there any pleasant part of Yirginia 
possessed of a healthy climate and good schools for children, where a 
family could settle on a small fanu aDdlive comfortably on a capital of 
$8 Oi’O and an additional income of $1,000. A neighborhood where good 
shooting and fishing are to be uad preferred? Ans. We can recommend 
Marion, Smyth Co., Va., without hesitation. It completely fills the bill. 
Nero, Dubuque. 1. Gan you tell me tho addrups of P. Powell & son, 
mentioned in last weeks paper by J. H. D., Milwaukee? 2. Oau you 
toll me the address of some good gunsmiths, who have on hand good 
mnzzle-loaders. All of the gunsmiths advertise brceeli-londers bnt I do 
riot want one? Ans. 1. Messrs. P. Powell & Son are in Cincinnati, 2. 
All of tbe gun dealers advertising m our paper keep muzzle louders as 
Well as breech-leaders in stock. 
J. W. S., Providence, R. I.—How can yon tell the difference between 
a twist and a laminated steel barrel; also what Is the difference between 
a plain and a stub twist ? Ans. In the twist barrel the lines rnn with 
perfect regularity; the laminated barrel being hammered, the surface 
presents an irregular appearance. In a stub twist barrel the material is 
roLled qb in Damascus or laminated, but less twisted. The common 
twist is made of inferior metal and scraps, but is also twisted. 
Taiiawhs, Newark.--Can you inform a subscriber whether Blue 
Mountain’s Luke in the Adirondack* can be reached by way of tho Adi¬ 
rondack Railroad, and whether there is a hotel there? Ans. Leave the 
cars at North Creek for Long Luke via Miuerva, and for Washbnrue’s on 
the Indian River; Jackson’s on the Cedar River, and Blue Mountain 
Lake via. North River, There is anew Hotel ut Bine Monntatn Lake, 
finished last year, and there will be a fair carriage road this year lo tho 
bike. This side of Jac kson’s ihe road 1 h good. 
Hunter, Newark.—Will you kindly inrorm me through your Corres¬ 
pondent Columns if there is any thing I can do fora young setter {10 
months old) that has got a poor nose. She is well broken in every respect,, 
but does not seem to scenL a bird well. She had the distemper very bad 
this winter and I think that is the cause. Tbe nose is very dry and 
feverish; feed her on boiled meal and scraps? Ans. If time, plenty of 
exercise, and such food as you are feeding your Better, does not bring 
her around all right, we do not know what will. 
W. H. S., Philadelphia.—1. Where in Philadelphia can the Kay con¬ 
centrator be bought, and how much are they wonh a hundred? 2. Is 
the $100 Greener breecb-loadlng shot gnn considered a good and safe 
gun? 2. What is the standing of the Remington $45 gun, how do they 
shoot and wear, and are they considered as safe as higher juiced guns? 
Ana. 1. At John Krider’s gun store, Second and Walnut streets, price 
$3.50 per 100. 2. Yes. 3. The $45 Remington is a good, fafe. service¬ 
able gun. Their $63 and $75 guns arc better finished, and worth the 
difference in price. 
quATL, Boston.—Will you kindly inform me, through yonr colnmos, 
what 1 b the best time to stock a piece of ground with quails, within fif¬ 
teen miles of Boston; also where they can be procured, and what they 
will probably cost per pair or dozen? Ans. Much depends upon the 
season. The birds should be put as soon as there is a reasonable pros¬ 
pect of fine weather; this year, for instance, the middle of April would 
have been soon enough. The earlier birds are out the Eooner they wi)L 
breed. It is uow too late to procure birds, but we will assist you in get¬ 
ting them for next season. 
Target, Lowell, Mass.—1. Wbat shell bad I bet Ier use for one dis¬ 
charge, to be then thrown away? 2. Is English shot Just ono size 
smaller than American of same nominal numbering? 3. Where can I 
get Kay’s shot cartridge; can find none except Eley’s in hands of Boston 
dealers, and they claim that these—Eley’s—are the best, laitso? 4. 
Is a pattern of 88 to 103 with one oz. No. 7 Tal ham shot, 30-inch circle. 
40 yards, straight bore, 12 gauge, 28-lnch barrel, 74-pound gun as good as 
should bo expected from a $200 JScott gun, and if not, what would bean 
ordinary good pattern? 5. As I have the gun mentioned which an¬ 
swers for light shooting, what weight, length of barrel, etc., bieecli- 
loader, w r ould you advise getting for shore shooting from middle of Aug. 
to close of season? 6. HI try to get one for $60 or $75, wbat Ameri¬ 
can maker canyon recommend as safe and serviceable? Ans. 3. Union 
metallic brown shells or Eley’s brown shells. 2. Tflthan? & Bros. N. Y. 
shot No. f> has 218 pellets to the ounce. Walker & Parker English shot 
No 6 has280 pellets to the ounce. 3. Kay’s improved cqhcfjntTMling 
cartridges arc decidedly the best, And cun be had at any of the gun deal¬ 
ers advertising in our columns {certainly in this city). 4. 100 prih{.< 
wonId be a good average. 5. Your gun 1 b large though for bay him. 
shooting, but for ducks you should liavB a 30-gauge, 32-inch, 10 pociv i 
gun, 6. A $60 or $15 Remington is a safe and serviceable gun,, 
