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.srtiiYLETi Lake. — One, of the beet places for fishing in 

 this psort of (he BUte is at Schuyler's Lake near Rich 



field Springs. The lake is within halt a. mile ot the 

 springs, but the best fishing is down about four miles on the 

 west side. Here there are two hotels, ul cither of which you 

 can get board at about one dollar per day, and boats and 

 fhjhjBg taekle for half a dollar. The fish are black and 



cook bass, pickerel, occasionaJty a trout, and any fju.int.ity 

 of perch. The pickerel are a peculiar kind, being shaped 



very much like a trout, and but vetyiewSXe caught that, 

 weigh less than two pounds, and from that to six pounds. 1 

 received a letter from there last week saying that the fishing 

 was excellent, and 1 think that sportsmen trim I. lie city 

 could make a pleasant and profitable trip to the hike at 

 any time now. Tlta,\cr, who Keeps the Three-mile Point 

 House on Otsrjto Lake, advertises in our county papers to 

 give fish and game dinners as usual. He is the same one 

 you Rave such a "shaking up" last summer as a member of 

 l he Fish and Game Ccmmission that met at Albany. \Ve 

 have too many such nun as lie, erroneously Called sports- 

 men, whose only object in wanting game laws is to keep 

 others, who have .enough principle not to kill game out of 

 season, from killing, so as to give them Ihe better i [iani 

 S.w iMilford. Otsego county. N. Y |, 



Fisn Notes. — The frequent rains have rendered the 



streams too muddy for angling. Besides, at. this season, the 

 leading anglers- among our wealthy citizens go off on their 

 annual trip to Wisconsin. This year Elk Rapids was the 

 chosen point, and several letters from members to friends in 

 Nashville report excellent sport. C&pt. I. I. Bell, editor oi 

 the Nashville Banner, is a good fisherman, and what he 

 can't catch is not worth talking about, lie, accompanied by 

 Ills faithful colored attendant. Humphrey, will take a turn 

 up the mountains after brook trout some time this summer. 

 Rapt. Willie Laurie and a number of gentlemen are at pres- 

 ent at Crisp Spring's, near which are several good fishing 

 streams, one in particular, which is richly stocked with bass 

 and perch. The stream is so full of fallen timber and 

 aquatic plants that the marauders cannot .seine them, hence 

 Ihe vast abundance of fine fish. They will be gone several 

 days.— J. D. II. (Nashville, Teuu., dune 10). 



Wheke Fish are Biting.— Philadelphia, Pa., June 33. 

 —From the regular correspondents of the Anglers' Associa- 

 tion of Fast Pennsylvania the following is reported: 



thforil. Mil. — fish plentiful and bitingwcll; kinds: rockj 

 croakers, sheepshead and perch. 



Vuckerton, N. J. — Weuktish abundant. 



Somen Point.— Weabtish, .sea bass, sheepshead and blue- 

 lish. 



Beeiletfa Point.— 8&me as at Somers Point. 



I'lijn' d/.'//.— Sheepshead aud weakfish very plentiful. 



Pmch Bottom. — Bass plentiful, rivci inuddv. Reports Of 

 same character from Port Deposit and Piles' Kddy. 



Betimion. — The perch have not yet commenced to bite. 



Brciikiridif. — Sheepshead. weakfish and hake abundant. 



Toiniiseiid's hiht. — Weakfish, sheepshead and kinglish. 



Hereford Inlet. — All the above varieties abundant. 



Skewipsit Lake. — RookviUe, Conn.. June 18. — I will 

 give you a short description of our lake. Skewipsit Lake, 

 Kockville. Conn., fifteen miles from Hartford on the N. Y. 

 & N. E. R. H. Elevation above sea level, 300 feet; length, 

 three miles: width, one-half mile to a mile; greatest depth, 

 seventy feet; average depth, forty feet, Stocked by Fish 

 Commissioners with salmon and bass. Largest laud-locked 

 salmon, six pounds two ounces; bass, four pounds nine 

 ounces. Good boats, first-class hotels halt' a mile from lake. 

 Letters addressed to Rockville News Company fully an- 

 swered. — S. lUtEEb.AND, Jk. 



Do Whttefish take Bait?— Fort Covington, N. Y. — 

 They most certainly do. They are caught in the pass of the 

 St. "Lawrence called Lake St, Francis, in the Salmon. 

 K.'Ujuette and Grass rivers. During their season in the 

 Raquette (or Racket) it is not an unusual thing for one man 

 to catch from fifty to seventy-five per day. They bite well 

 at worms in deep' water if you use a tine tine. I know of 

 tWO instances at least of their biting and being caught on a 

 trolling spoon.— GYRF AMOS, 



New- Hampshike TnorT Waters — Boston, Mass.— In 

 response to your invitation to furnish information about 

 angling resorts, I recommend North Stratford, N. It. There 

 is a good hotel at that point, kept, I believe, by -Mr. J; W. 

 Tibbetts; and teams can be had for the trout streams in Ihe 

 vicinity. It is a short drive lo Bog Brook, Paul's Stream, 

 Ntdbegan and other first-rate trout brooks and rivers. North 

 Stratford is reached via Grand Trunk Railway.— C. T. D. 



Wascalonge Leap.— Fort Covington, N. Y. — In their 

 attempts to free themselves from the 'hooks they sometimes 

 throw themselves out of water and shake their heads SO that 

 the spoon may be distinctly beard to rattle. Walleyed pike 

 lire, le re at least, a good game fish, fully equal to black 

 hass, and considered by the people in this section rather bet 

 ter for the tabic— Gyhfaixon. 



^isffculttire. 



"MISDIRECTED FISHCULTURE." 



Editor Fores/ and Stream: 



I have read with much interest the recent articles on the 

 subject of "Misdirected Fishoulture," aud I notice, with some 

 surprise that in your editorial addendum to a letter planted in 



your paper of June 7. vou say, ''The matter under discussion 

 has assumed the shape of a local dispute between Mi*. Peirce 

 and the former New Jersey Fish Commission." Permit, roe to 

 istake, and that the 

 dble tl 



assure 



between the parti 

 be one on that or 

 The question of 

 Jersey have been ' 

 a proper subject 

 written on the s 

 maud attention, a 

 Commissioners of 

 with Mr. Peirce. 

 of form 



lethe. 



subject. 



the appropriate,, 

 .viseiy ana intelligently expe 

 of discussion, and anvthi 

 ubjeetwill, doubtless, if wi 

 nd be read With interest, I. 

 New Jersey do not propose 

 The gentlemen who belong 

 Dr. John If. She 



no disp, 



son, Esq. Dr. Ben]'. P. Howell, Jacob R. Shot 



st the point 

 le category 



. A. Ander- 

 Bsq., Theo. 



few months ago, with loving and tearful eyes we laid to rest 

 the courtly and gentle Dr. Howell, one of the truest specimens 

 of nature's noblemen that ever came from the hand of the 

 Creator. 



These gentle and kindly spirits were devoted to the work in 

 which they were engaged: they voluntarily gave to it time, 

 study, brains and money because of their earnestness, and 

 t.hev'wil] not come from the grave to repel the imputations 

 of Mr. Peirce and assist him in advertising himself. Mr. Shot- 

 well, some time the colleague of these gentlemen, is a man of 

 fine culture and high attainments, who retired from the Com- 

 mission some years ago, after long and valuable service, aud 

 Mr. Morford is still in the Commission and is well and honor- 

 ably known. 1 do not, think either of these latter-named gen- 

 tlemen have ever seen or heard of Mr. Peirce, and I am sure I 

 am in a position to assert that none of the "former'' Commis- 

 sioners have ever had any discussion or dispute with him 

 touching the question of their own judgiivtit or Intelligence. 



Upon another subje. I -.me of the Commissioners had some 

 differences with him some years ago. but these were rather of 

 a personal character, the rental of which woidd not, interest 

 your readers, and since then Mr. P. has seen fit to relieve his 

 mind at sundry tunes and in divers places in disparagement 

 of the. Commission, but this has not in any way interfered with 

 the progress Of their work, and he has not succeeded in pi 

 yoking a discussion or dispute with them. He 

 The dead cannot answer his criticisms nor repel nis 

 the living will not. heeause life is short, and there are many 

 ways of spending the fleeting hours more profitably and pleas- 

 antly than engaging in "disputations" with Mr. Peirce. 



E. J. Anderson. 



Trenton, June 18; 



rill 



Xht MmmL 



II 



Morford, Esq., and the present writer. TV. Slack. 



an enthusiastic and accomplished fishculturist, and the origi- 

 nator of the Fish Commission of New- Jersey, is in his grave. 



dead from a disease contracted in the actual pert 



bis labor as commissioner, which to bim was pre-eminently a 



labor of love; George Allen Anderson, a genial gentleman, 

 also an enthusiast in fislienlture, served the State ably as Com- 

 missioner for live years, and he too has passed away ; and a 



Tn insure prompt attention communication* should he.ad- 

 dressed to the Forest and Stream Publishing Co.. and not to 

 individuals, in ichose absence from the office matters of im- 

 liortan.ee a re l.iatilc to delay. 



FIXTURES. 



FIELD TRIALS. 



November 19. 1888.— Eastern Field Triats club, Fifth Annual Trials, 

 at lligh Point, N. C. Kntries for the Derby clos,.. July 1; for Ihe 

 Members" Stake, Key. IT: for the All - \gcd stake. Nov. 1. W A. 

 Coster. Secretary, Kliilbiish, bong Island, X. V. 



November •JO. 1RXH. Robin's Islam] Club's second Annual Field 

 Trials at Robin's Island. L. I., for members only. Entries close 

 Kent. 1. A T. Hummer. Secretary. 



Iiccembcr. issa -National American Kennel Club, Fifth Annual 

 Trials, at Grand Junction, Tenn, D. I'ryson. Secretary, Memphis, 

 Tenu. 



DO DOGS REASON? 



ERE is another instance of a dog understanding ordinary 

 versation. Some live years ago I owned a dog, of 

 cross oreed— shepherd and spaniel. He was black, with long 

 hair, or coat, about the usual size of a shepherd dog. and 

 very intelligent. Mv daughter had two particular playmates 

 about, that time, who lived too far away in another part of 

 the city to visit each other, except on Saturdays, non-school 

 .lays. 1 had a swing in Mie yard which they patronized on 

 these occasions. One Saturday these two ea.me to have their 

 play together. It so happened that the oldest sister of the two 

 wore a ~ pair of cuffs buttoned with gold buttons; the cuffs 

 would become soiled in tneir swinging, so she took them off 

 and laid them down on the ground, the buttons detached 

 from the cuffs alongside of one. of the supports to the swing, 

 the dog. Watch, being always with them on these occasions! 

 When it was time tu return home, the elder sister took her 

 culls, but not the buttons, not missing them at the time, for 

 the reason, as we (wife, daughter and I) supposed afterward, 

 that the dog hail taken the pair of buttons wdiile they were 

 busy at play, and gone to some place in the yard and buried 

 them. So when the girls got home, the elder missed her but- 

 tons, but remembering where she left them, she told her 

 mother the circumstances, aud they concluded some of our 

 family would see and take care of them, and on the next 

 Saturdaj she would make another visit and then get them. 

 They came, and inquired if any of us had foimd them ; we all 

 answered no. Then the girls went out to the swing— the dog 

 as usual being with them — looking and wondering what had 

 become of the lost buttons, and if any one had come into the 

 yard, found and carried them away. Pretty soon Watch 

 came and laid them both down in front of the girls, seeming 

 to be overjoyed, and acting .as if he had performed some wou- 

 derful feat. " Of course we praised and petted him roundly. 



At another time my wife made some biscuit, and as Watch 

 seemed to want one she gave him one. She noticed he did 

 not eat it, but carried it off in his mouth, but thought no more 

 of it at the tune. A few days after that she baked some bis- 

 cuits again, Watch came begging again, and she said to hini, 

 "I gave vou one the other day, and you went off and buried 

 it, I think. Have you eaten that up vet.'" Watch goes out, 

 and pretty soon appears wdth it in his mouth, and lavs it 

 down at tier feet. It was as fresh as if just baked. Now in 

 these tWO instances, so dissimilar in circumstances, and at dif- 

 ferent periods of time, if they do not clearly prove tliat this 

 dog understood the conversation had about the buttons, and 

 the distinct interrogatory put to him, then I give up, and ask 

 what is it J I say that dog understood the subjects mentioned. 



Truth. 



San Francisco, June 3, 1883, 



CHAMPIONS. 

 Editor Forest and Stream: 



It appears to be rather a dangerous undertaking to write on 

 the dog question nowadays, for you no sooner express an 

 opinion than a dozen gentlemen rush into print to prove you 

 know nothing about if. Therefore I shall put mv humble 

 opinion in the guise of a query and wait to be instructed with 

 due meekness. Though only an humble American I hope I 

 know some little of the English language, which, unlike the 

 knowledge of dogs, even Col Taylor and judge Mason will 

 hardly maintain is confined entirely to the tight little island. 

 Consequently I would like, to ask if the title of Champion, as 

 applied to dogs, is not an utter misuse, of the word, and with 

 very disastrous results, in shooting, rowing, tennis, billiards, 

 and the like, to lay any claim to the title ot champion one 

 must hold it against all comers and maiutaiu his supremacy 

 at least through three contests. But a dog is entered in the 

 champion class, wins, often with no opposition, and immediately 

 he is: trumpeted forth as a champion, and if there is any danger 

 of his getting beat at tftie next show, is frequently not shown. 

 Is this right : Ought not every champion be required to hold 

 onto his laurels in a fairer way.' Should he not he required to 

 keep the title only by force of merit, and it after winning 

 once, be is beaten at the next show, ought he not to forego 

 the title until he wins again; Tins seems the only way in 

 which the honor can be rendered of auv value, and it will 

 prevent the cheapening of an honor which is frequently only 

 w T on by what, in racing parlance, is termed a walk-over, Let 

 us hear the views of some of your many correspondents on 



this question, T. B. DORSEY. 



GLENFILASS.— In the list of awards of the Chicago show 

 published last week, by mistake Forest Lill was announced 

 as the winner of first rathe English setter bitch class. The 

 prize was awarded to Mr. T. Ot. Davey's GHenfllass, black, 

 White and tan, four years old, by Hob Roy out of Doll. 



AMERICAN KENNEL REGISTER.— Entries for tte ne:el 

 niimher H'itl close July 1. 



BEAGLES. 



IN regard to a standard for beagles and the. formation of a 

 beagle club, there are many points to bo taken into con- 

 sideration, I have mv doubts as to the success of forming an 

 organization to perfect a standard. We have the brilliant, 

 example of the cocker men and their bickerings and contro- 

 versies over weights and dimensions as a warning. The ;-."-:•! 

 trouble is that most breeders and owners think like the in- 

 fallible Col. Stuart Taylor, that their own stock if 

 the only place any such dogs as theirs can be found is across 

 the water. Now I have my opinion of what a beagle should 

 be, bllt have not yet seen one which completely tills m, idea I. 

 although I have bad good ones and watched them by the hour 

 and examined very carefully better ones owned by others. 

 One defect with many of the prize winners is too much length 

 of back as well as sharpness of nose. The bead should count 

 very high in judging by points, and ought to be round, have 

 a good dome but not sharp on top, long round ears set low- 

 eyes full, short from line of eyes to end of nose, Which ahou Id 

 turn up just a trifle and be square at the end. Anything over 

 fifteen inches high seems over-sized, but I do not deem it 

 necessary that a dog should be as diminutive as some breeders 

 maintain, for we keep the little hounds to hunt, and the very 

 small ones labor at a disadvantage, in many covers. Tongue 

 is an important item in a beagle, there being such a thing as 

 too much as well as not enough, and then there is tone to be 

 considered. I know our friend Rogers will agree to that. I 

 have no patience 'with a hound yelping oyer a cold trail nor 

 one that never gives tongue. How are we going to decide 

 ahout a beagle's field qualities when he is exhibited on the 

 bench? Give me field trial winners for all bench winner's 

 every time in all breeds of dogs. 



However ; 1 do not wish to throw cold water on our Penn- 

 sylvania friend's scheme to form a club and am willing to join 

 if by so doing 1 can do anything for the advancement of' the 

 little dog I admire so much. In my humble opinion the 

 standard should be left to a very small committee, for in- 

 stance, Dr. Twaddell, Of Phdadclphia. Gen. Rowett, of 

 Quincy, 111. (the original breeder of beagles in this country), 

 and N. Elmore, of Granby, Conn. The last named e 

 has the most extensive kennel of beagles in the country, but I 

 would trust him to judge my dogs in competition with his any 

 day, aud I think his ideas on a standard would be valuable if 

 he "should give the time to it. Regulating matters in town 

 meeting style is unsatisfactory, but let all hands write as much 

 wisdom to as possible on the subject, and then if a club is 

 started have the ideal beagle points made up by a few com- 

 petent members. Dohktn. 



Editor Forest and Stream . 



I am glad to notice a growing interest for the improvement 

 of the beagle. I am particularly inlet est e, I in I hi- lit tie hound, 

 and fullv indorse the suggestions of "Razor" "that a beagle 

 club be organized" and a "beagle standard" arrived at- So 

 that "if we study them we may know them." I urn the owner 

 of three of thesclittle hounds, and they are as nearh unlike 

 each other as three distinct breeds would be. and they are. all 

 fine bred dogs. One is by Elmore's Ringwood and one by his 

 Flute. I purchased a bitch to-day that took first prize at the 

 last Lowell bench show. I purchased her because she was a 

 prizewinner and because she looked so different from the 

 other two. I have my ideal type, and others interested in this 

 breed have a fancy for a different type. How then can jus- 

 tice be done to breeders, and how will judges know what kind 

 of adog to look for, unless a "beagle standard" is adopted? 



Many thanks are due to "O. W. K.," "Briar," "Kazor" and 

 others for their efforts in this direction, and I hope they will 

 agitate this subject until the desired "beagle club" is obtained. 



A. D. Barber. 



Townsknd, Mass., June 16. 



THE ENGLISH BEAGLE STANDARD. 

 Editor Forest and Stream: 



In reply to "Briar's" query, "why there are not more beagles 

 entered at shoyvs, why some have kept their stock at home 

 and only let their friends see them;'' allow me. as my name 

 was mentioned, to say that my stock has been entered at 

 numerous shows and literally won dozens of prizes, -and my 

 reasons for not entering at most of the recent shows will be 

 best understood by giving in brief my experience at, the. last. 

 two shows. 1 exhibited at Lowell, entering eight beagles and 

 taking all of the prizes, and my dogs also took distemper and 

 two of the best came very near dying,. and one of my best 

 voting dogs at home caught the disease, from those entered at 

 the show and died. 



My next venture was at Meriden last January. I entered 

 thirteen dogs aud won thirteen prizes, and in addition nine of 

 the dogs had the honor of D.D. (dead dog) conferred upon 

 them, and nearly all of my young stock caught the distemper 

 from dogs that died, and twenty-eight of those died, making 

 thirty-seven dogs lost by exhibiting at Meriden, and at a low 

 estimate SSOO would not cover the loss, as most of the young 

 stock was from four to six." months old and selected as being 

 extra fine. After such an experience. I do not think "Briar" 

 will wonder that I abandoned my intention of making a very 

 liberal entry at almost every show— as I intended to— and kept 

 my dogs at'home for reasons given; for I certainly could not 

 rind fault with judging after such success, which I mention 

 simply to show that I have no fault to find with fudging. 



Notwithstanding mv experience, I shall exhibit some at 

 future shows, and particularly regretted not being able to en- 

 ter at Pittsburgh aud New York. 



I am strongly in favor of having some recognized standard 

 for beagle judging that shall lie a guide to judges at bench 

 shows and prevent prizes from being awarded to such entirely 

 different types as w-e frequently see done at the same show. 

 I have often thought what a motley looking pack»all the 

 prize winners w T ould make if they were collected together, 

 all sizes and forms, with no breed characteristic to many of 

 them. I will give the standard I have adopted after years of 

 inquiry as to what constitute correct beagle | lOints and will Bay , 

 after attending numerous shows and seeing the san... 

 shows award prizes to two different types of beagles, over- 

 looking one that should unquestionably be given a. prize it 

 first one was entitled to it. I came to the conclusion tl,.,t 

 judges had no standard and it was useless to place any con- 

 fidence, in their decisions or form a standard (unless a change- 

 able one) from types they had given prizes to, aud wrote to 

 Dr. Twaddell (of West Philadelphial, who is acknowledged to 

 be one of the best beagle judges in this country, that I had 

 become, disgusted with such judging and bad made up my 

 mind to form a standard of mv own according to the best 

 knowledge I could obtain. I wrote him my idea of what a 

 beagle should be, giving nearly all of the points mentioned in 



S resent standard, and was pleased to receive a letter from the 

 oetor fully indorsing my standard and saving "that he hoped I 

 would do much to elevate the breed and give it a breed char- 

 acteristic," which 1 am trying to do, and believe a ;-■ 

 club working through a correct standard of points would have 

 more influence than individual efforts, and hope my friend 

 "Razor's" suggestions will be carried out. I here wish to 

 thank Forest and Stream for the interest in the past they 

 have shown the little beagle, and for so kindly offering m 



help through its columns those interested in the impi 



of the breed. 



My standard, of course, does not refer to the basket or bench- 

 legged beagle. 



STANDARD. 



Bead intelligent, rounder, shorter and wider r 

 hound's, with high, round dome; eyes large and full, with a 

 soft, intelligent, pleasing expression, and set wide apart. 



Ears long, set low and hung flat to cheek; tips shoidd be 

 round. 



