£ 430 



FOREST AND STREAM. 



[Jtwe 38, 1888. 



— -— ■ ' Tollman. 



MR. BAYARD THAYER'S LEMON AND WHITE POINTER BITCH "RUE." 



Winner of Champion Prize. New York, 1883. 



Muzzle square-cut, and lips slightly dependent. 

 Neck strong and set on higher than foxhound's. 

 Breast -wide and shoulders strong. 



Body round and rather short, with wide, strong loin; thighs 

 thick and muscular; legs strong, with plenty of bone; stern 

 shorter than foxhound's, and carried slightly curved above 

 line of back. 



OmU should not be fine or very short. 

 Any Color allowed foxhounds or harriers is admissible. 

 Height from twelve to fifteen inches, aud from fifteen to 

 twenty pounds weight preferred. 



scale OF POINTS. 



Head 20 



Keek ; 5 



Legs Id 



Feet 10 



Shoulders 15 



Back : 10 



Loins 10 



Hind-quarters 15 



Stern 5 



Total 10fl 



Speed is not desirable in beagles, and a strong, compact 

 form adapted for endurance is, in ray judgment, what is 

 required. 



I was much interested in an article by Gen. F. A. Bond 

 regarding a certain pack of beagles running down thirteen 

 rabbits one day. and fully agree with the Genera] that beagles 

 of correct type cannot, under ordinary conditions, ran down 

 rabbits: at least I never had any that oould, and having the 

 largest beagle kennel in the World, have been able to put as 

 many into the field as any one. ami m\ pack have never yet 

 caught an unwounded rabbit. Hole-, ami stone walls are too 

 common in this section for puss to allow herself to be run 

 down before retreating to them; and the great sport in hunt- 

 ing with beagles is that they ran so slow that game is not 

 compelled to take to earth and gives the hunter an opportu- 

 nity to obtain a shot. N. Elmore. 

 CJr.cnby, Conn. _^ 



DOGS AT THE NEW YORK SHOW. 

 Editor Forest and Stream: 



Perhaps Col. Stuart Taylor will explain why he does not 

 quote from Mr. Ualziel's lei ter entitled "Babylon?" If there 

 is anything in it inconsistent with his statement to Mr. Cor- 

 nell (and I may add that he made a similar remark to me) I 

 fail to see it. His letter is a pleasant, chatty one. with very 

 fittle in it about dogs, and not one word derogatory of the 

 qualitj' of those exhibited here. He makes but one reference 

 to our shows, which is as follows: "The Westminster Kennel 

 Club are also the promoters and responsible for the great inter- 

 national dog shows held in New York, which, speaking of the 

 one held this year, was superior in some of its features to any 

 I have judged at or seen in Europe." 



Perhaps your readers can find in this brief extract good 

 reason for the eminent critic's failure to quote. Col. Taylor 

 attitudinizes as the generous, public-spirited lover of the dog, 

 who only seeks by his criticisms to spur- Ids fellow countrymen 

 into more successful rivalry with foreign breeders. 



spirit is a worthy 

 Wholesale den uncial i 

 deserved. It is such 



object, to. I quote Cro 



31st uito: "Now, sere, 



of dogs of the many bi 



hard to get together, 



ever of justice there may De in 



ticularizes is neutralized by 3Uch 



New York. 



but I protest against his method. 

 will not attain that end. and is not 

 xtements as the following which I 

 Jol. Taylor's letter in your issue of 

 speal fog, Mr. Editor, a poorer lot 

 Is exhibited it seems to me it were 

 took nondescripts." What- 

 his objections when he par- 

 sweeping charges. 



Elliot Smith. 



nless 



Editor Forest and Stream' 



Your valued issue of June 21, is at hand, and I have just 

 read the highly practical aud sensible letter of Col. Stuart 

 Taylor. Your correspondent treats his subject so ably that 

 he leaves very little for any one else to say, except to indorse 

 all the views set forth by him. One subject alone is capable 

 of being enlarged upon. Col. Taylor savs: "Let our breeders 

 and our judges stand by, hard and fast, a type of dog pro- 

 nounced good, and award laurels accordingly; there is too 



much change from bench show to bench show in the prize 

 winners, even under the same judge." 



He has hit the right nail on the head. Is it not a patent 

 fact that the same dog exhibited under different judges very 

 rarely is allowed by both to score the same honors? Where 

 do our judges get thei p ideas of type from? And further, where 

 are breeders to get their ideas of type from? Each week we 

 see controversies over certain dogs, some praising, some con- 

 demning them. Cannot something be done to remedy this 

 kind of breeding from two types I Witness the trouble over 

 the breed of cocker spaniels." The fox-terrier. Silver, was un- 

 der one judge at Ottawa awarded second prize, and was no 

 doubt considered a, pretty good specimen. Now at Chicago 

 he is passed over with a vhc, and the remarks made on 

 him are: "Is only a fair specimen, is leggy aud light in bone 

 and coat." It should have been added that be was broad-chested 

 and had a snipy muzzle. Now, sir, where is the one definite 

 type in this one of many instances? Cannot our judges unite 

 in judging each breed of dogs from a definite, accepted stand- 

 ard and type of each breed? Or better still, cannot we have 

 at each show a judge tor setters and pointers, a judge for 

 spaniels, aud one for terriers, and so on? Let us hear from 

 others on this subject, for many feel as I do. Terrier. 



Editor Forest and Stream: 



I think Messrs. Cornell. Coster and Pickett's letters in an- 

 swer to Col. Stuart Taylor's criticisms of our late show were 

 uncalled for. They ought to be very grateful that at last one 

 gentleman has been discovered who has such a thorough 

 knowledge of dogs. A judge who himself tells us that he 

 knows as much about pugs, mastiffs, etc., as of setters, point- 

 ers, and all other dogs, is indeed a rarity, and I sincerely hope 

 that the Westminster Kennel Club will let Col. Taylor judge, 

 in future, all the dogs at the show, and do away with having 

 so many judges. Boss. 



New York. 



SOME STAUNCH POINTS. 



TALKING about dogs, I wish to say a few words about the 

 staunchest. and in most other respects the best, dog 1 ever 

 knew. His name is Joseph E. Johnston. He is a large white 

 setter, with liver ears, and some liver spots on his body. Old 

 Joe is now superannuated, quite deaf and infirm, but still cher- 

 ished and cared for by his master and mistress for the good he 

 has done. He is, moreover, the progenitor of many good dogs 

 in this region, the best, indeed, we have about here. In 1SB5 

 Captain Chamberlayne rode on horseback from Virginia to 

 Mississippi, just after the surrender at Appomattox. While 

 passing through North Carolina some one gave him a large 

 setter, which journeyed with him all the way to Mississippi. 

 He called the dog Tramp, in commemoration of this event, be- 

 fore the term had acquired its present unpleasant notoriety. 

 Tramp was a magnificent dog, with a splendid "flag," carried 

 erect and waving as he would gallop all over a hundred-acre 

 field, while the sportsman need only sit on the fence and direct 

 him by a wave of the arm, for which he occasionally paused 

 and looked. His predominant white color made him easily 

 visible among the brown weeds and cotton stalks, and that, by 

 the way, is a great advantage. 



Joe Johnston is the son and exact image of Tramp. All 

 the pedigree known of Tramp is that embodied in the pedi- 

 Iti on above alluded to. 



I will give two examples of Joe's staunchness. On one occa- 

 sion the Right Rev. Bishop A., who, while he is a sound 

 churchman and an able and worthy divine, does not consider 

 the healthful exercise of bird shooting beneath the dignity of 

 the cloth, nor derogatory thereto, was shooting with my 

 friend Skipwith, the owner of Joe. Joe was at a stand on a 

 covey, on ground a little elevated. As Bishop A. approached, 

 an old bird got up, at which- he fired, and sent some thirty 

 No. 8 shot into Joe's side, at less than thirty yards. Joe 

 quickly turned his head and looked very reproachfully at the 

 Bishop, then, "without saying a word," as the miner said 

 about his cat, Tom Quartz, he resumed his point until the 

 birds were flushed. When the shot was fired, the white hair 

 flew from Joe in a small cloud. He was taken home, the shot 

 picked out by a physician, and in a couple of weeks he re- 

 covered. 



In the other instance, Joe was going at a gallop, and jumped 

 through a barbed wire fence. When he struck the ground on 



the other side he came to a stand on a covey, a few feet off. 

 Skipwith came up aud flushed the birds, but noticed that 

 Joe was standing over a pool of blood, perhaps a pint. On 

 examination he found a gash four inches long, and quite deep, 

 in Joe's abdomen, made by the barbed wire. Yet he stood 

 perfectly staunch, without a whimper. He was carried home 

 and the wound sewed up, and it was several weeks before he 

 recovered. 



Your "mink" man can beat me on flights of fancy, but what 

 I have related about Joe are facts, Ouachita. 



Monroe, Louisiana. 



[Almost evervone who has been much in the field with good 

 dogs can recall interesting exhibitions of this kind; and as 

 the subject, is a most entertaining one. we hope that some of 

 these points may be described in the Forest and Stream.] 



RUE. 



THE pointer bitch Rue, whose likeness we give this week, is 

 undoubtedly the best specimen of the small pointer that 

 has been produced in this country, if not in the world. She 

 bred by Mr. Edmund Orgill of Brooklyn, N. Y. She i 



whelped All 

 in 18TT, .and I 



ist 12, 18 



Ifei 



, Snapshot, was imported 

 ' l England, he added a 



Hei 

 ill's well-known Rush 

 i of the best and she is 

 ire informed by those 



an excellent fielder, i 



lots of style. She was pur- 

 of Boston, 



The 

 'airiv 

 who 



Rubv. was litter sister to Mr. O 

 breeding of Rue, it will be seen. 

 entitled to her good looks. We 

 have seen her at work that she 



capital nose, very speedy and hi. 



chased by her present owner, Mr Bayard Thay . , 

 Mass., at the recent New York show," at the largest price— one 

 thousand dollars— ever paid for a pointer bred in this country. 

 We understand that it is the intention of her owner to ran 

 her at the field trials next fall. Rue was first shown in New 

 York in 1880 w T hen she was given vhc. in the puppy class. 

 The next year she won first in the open class at Pittsburgh and 

 the champion prize at New Y r ork, where she also won with 

 Rush, Rowell, Rhona and Belle, for the best kennel of small 

 pointers. She also won, the same year, first at London, Ont., 

 and first at Atlanta, Ga. At the New York show this year, 

 she won in the champion class and, with Rush, Random, 

 Rowell and Romp II. , in the best kennel of small-sized pointers. 

 She also won the prize for the best pointer at the same show. 

 The cut is from a sketch by Hairy Talhnan. 



BOXER II. POISONED. -I can now sympathize with 

 others who have been compelled to deal with that miserable 

 form of a sneak thief who has not the courage to say a word 

 in open light, but vents his cowardly meanness on" a dumb 

 animal. Just one week after his return from the Pittsburgh 

 show, my beagle dog Boxer II. was poisoned.' A short time 

 before, the same fate befell my pointer dog Dick. I consid- 

 ered Boxer a good specimen of the English beagle and had 

 shown him but twice — last June at Cleveland, where he took 

 first, and this year at Pittsburgh, where he took second; one of 

 his pups, Lill II, , taking first at same time. Besides being a 

 prize winner, he was an untiring hunter. Some of his pups 

 at five months old would give tongue on trail, which in my 

 opinion was something extraordinary, and think it shows 

 about the right kind of material. I have strong suspicions as 

 to the identity of the sneak, and hope to gain a little more 

 proof when 1 will try to make it hot for him.— J. M. Bergold, 

 (Canal Fulton, Ohio, June 12). 



ERIN AND BIDDY'S PEDIGREE.— Editor Forest and 

 Stream: For the benefit of the parties making inquiries of 

 Biddy (680 N.A.K.C.S.B.) and Erin (5,130 E.K.C.S.B) I send 

 you a full pedigree of the first and one of Erin's son, Erin II., 

 which I hope will help to furnish the desired information. I 

 think by closer comparison of the English and American stud 

 books you will see the pedigree of old Erin is the same in both. 

 Champion Biddy's pedigree vou made out as by Erin out of 

 Fan. It should be by Erin (5,130 E.K.C.S.B.) and out of Whit- 

 ford's Erin, imported (699 N.A.K.C.S.B.) (later St. Louis Ken- 

 nel Club's). Biddv and Erin II. were bred by the St. Louis 

 Kennel Club and they were sold by that club to Mr. J. B. C. 

 Lucas, of this city, who still owns 'them and takes them on his 

 annual shooting trips to Minnesota. They were thoroughly 

 broken by C. B. Whitford. I don't think % "W. G." will find 

 out anything more of the pedigree of Duke of Buccleuch's 



