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FOREST AND STREAM. 



[Dec. 20, 1883. 



OR1VA AND THE OPEN BOATS. 



Editor Forest and Stream.' 



Such a persistent misrepresentation has lieett made of tho t riva's 

 movements on the day of the open race boat, that, as a guest on 

 board, I bee; a small space in votir valuable paper to give a correct, 

 version of what happened. It was blowing a '-yachtsman's gals" 

 onlv, and the Oriva was under reduced canvas to enable us to see the 

 race properlv. She otherwise would have more set. She was not in- 

 tentionally placed bv her owner in the midst of the racing craft. She 

 t.;vi v..!!'kv:.i :■€■ l .■ i .=- ■. I )-i annuo; teem tli - M'r Lou- inadvertently got 

 to windward of one, and while trying to get out of her way found 

 himself even closei to the Lilly K. Tbe Oriva was then, at my sugges- 

 tion, kept hard off wir.lt sheets aft, there being no time to slack them 

 even had it been desirable. She turned on her heel in a surprising 

 manner. Tie- boats were on the davits at the time, so that the sixty 

 five degrees of heel spoken of must he a brilliant effort of the im- 

 aghiation, 



Tite rela'i-. e -.■ ad of vessels is a 'littieiiii matter to estimate cor- 

 rect! v under ail cirrum stances and most yacht owners are apt to over 

 estimate their own craft; but any owner 'of a 28ft. craft who fancies 

 he , -an beat Oriva in the breeze that was blowing on that day will, 

 when he comes to try it on. find himself a badly -sold" man. 



Robert Cknter. 



[The story concerning the heating and outpointing of Oriva by an 

 open boat little more than half her length i" a strong breeze was, no 

 douhl, put forth in good faith and obtained ready belief in .some 



tat ' '- • ye, le.J " it. a . ' " as> re : :. ; ■ : oalOoee . - n 



. -• nil .-II i-.. ".1- ;:-: lie-- ■ I .el i ', \: a ■': I: ilii .. u.'i e ell-. -Ire si -it 11; ' 



class, and whatever the Lily R. claimed to have done against the 

 Oriva would hold n gains' any caiihi sloop with equal force, and could 

 not in common logic be invested with any application to Cutters in 

 particular. The Oriva was Jog] ■■■ i iota .u on the quarters, 



undei 





I. i ainsail aritfjib. Persons who imagine a yacht 



i point and foot her best with main tack triced up, are 

 than lubbers, and have so much to learn about the rudi- 

 unanship that an opinion from such sources is not worth 

 ine's fingers. We trust tie- facts furnished in the above 



or. ■; ,-n r.-:- will s>o the whale ma I tor a f r-e-t, even to the 



of the crew of the Lily R.] 



SEW KEEL SCHOONER. -The design has been finished for a big 

 Miranda lijll.- IR'o. If this schooner is built iu time for next season, it 

 may fare as hard with the reputation of schooners as it has with that 

 of the sloops. 



NEW STEAMER.— Muram of South Brooklyn has under way a new- 

 steamer for Mr. J. C. Hoagland, similar to the Sentinel in general 

 style. From the En-old we learn she is to he I SOIL over all, 118ft. 

 waterline, 19-Vgft. beam, 10ft. hold and 6ft. draft. In point of model 

 she will be halfway between a -team launch and a seagoing yacht, 

 though she is to have a flush deck and high freeboard of 5ft. amid- 

 ships, and the rather excessive sheer of 1ft. forward. Keel of oak 

 10xl2in. . keelson vellow pine lOxlciii.. timbers oak and hackmatack 



-IxT e. he.t aild ar head." rti.O O , ea.eii nine, roe 'oil g, -A res.!- S 



of pine Ixtiin., through riveted with J/jin. iron. Other fastenings will 

 be galvanized spike work. Pilot house 30ft. from forward end, 15ft. 

 long and 7ft. high, will be the only superstructure. Rigged as 

 schooner. Machinery oil special type, details of which are still a 

 mystery. Forecastle 18ft. long, fitted for eight, hands. Captain's 

 and engineer's room on starboard hand, pantry, etc. on port, engine 

 and boiler space 26ft. amidships, bunkers for to tons, owner's state- 

 room athwartships abaft the engine room bulkhead, main saloon 

 next 18x15ft,, and after cabin and toilel rooms for guests in the run. 

 Will be named Lagonda. 



INTREPID.— This schooner leaves for the West Indies in a few days. 



Schooner Dauntless has cleared for the Azores and African coast, 

 schooner Montauk is on the berth) for a southerly cruise in February. 

 The lleet of ocean cruisers is fast increasing, and consequences of 



gruel uenuiii to . a. -Ming iu America will he the result. Montauk 



irse to ha- 





tter of safety, the 

 . Monta.uk has been within an ace of capsizing 

 asion. and it would be hazardous to put to sea 

 rea. But there is an idea prevalent that out 

 ake such a boat easier at. sea. This is a mis- 

 spars docked, will he harder and more violent 

 cunt of loss of weighi aloft and its dynamic 

 iterpoise to quick motion, induced by a high mota 

 '-consideration first, hence a. redue- 

 legitimately 



s a step proper 



center. But safe 

 tion in sail to whi 

 enough. 



SINGLEHAND CUTTER.— Wiliiams & Stevens, of Lowell. Mass., 

 are to build a cutler for Sraglehanll cruising. Length over all 23ft., 

 on loadljne 19ft. . beam oft. across dee.: a. eel if t. 6in. at waterline. 



Top of duel; to rabb'-li N 5i t. hu. Tonal hallos.; a 0. :;..->uu lbs,, :,. 



portion of which will go on the keel. Flush doc!,- with small cockpit 

 and cabin hatch. Cutter rig with polemast, 375 sq. ft. in lower sail. 



CAPSIZED.— The schooner Vestal capsized while fitting out at 

 Southampton. Details edl thu .accident are still wanting. The Vestal 

 was built way back in the fifties, by lnman, on lines as nearly like 

 those of the America as they could be got in those days. 



JULIA.— This old time sloop. Rear Com. E. M. Brown N Y Y C 

 is to be modernized into a fashionable keel, and will have her lie 

 changed to that of a schooner. Considers B i a ions will hi. 



- I" I .i h- .,■ ,- !■,■■■ :t ..,""..■...-,.... .. ;-■,,,,,. 



the flare in her harpings padded out. run spun out four f-ct and the 

 ribbons carried out in a nobby fantail Tor.--i.les will be raised noon 

 some six Inches. One o -1 .... one keel more maltesn. -dlf 



ference of two in the footing. New York is bravei- uutirrowine- its 

 provincial antipathy to the keel. ■- fe 6 



eo£ 



a the yachts of best repute for speed cannot re- 

 the times. Columbia. ,..;-. ...mer, is to be length- 

 ■ her an easier entrance. She will be almost, re- 



i'i" i u r: nere 1.. I : ,enoii a : -.v a -un 

 i -e. ■ i. aa 1: .■ - a . ■ .. ■!..., i I 



nd flat floor will play a. serious prank on over- 



rill 



mnat-cil 



ie yawl 



untie rh'n 



nth Boston has an order for a 



rigged, a style or rig rapidly'cbming inti 

 as superior to the schooner in speed am 

 as handy and doing away with a mainmast n 

 support through the roo'f of a cabin house. 



NEW SLOOP.-Muram is to build a sloop for N 

 of more than usual displacement .and draft Ley 

 waterline 50ft.: beam 17ft.; depth BJ .,ft and if 1 h 



NEW KEEL. -Webber has in hand'am- i . 



City Point, South Boston. Waterline erft In-m 

 4ft. Sin., and :%ft. draft. Iron shoe of i..'.m. i:.. 



ANOTHER KEBL.-J. B. Smith 0. v „, 

 keel sloop to hail from New Bedford. Length, ,10ft. : beam lift • 

 depth, 4ft. Bin., with iron ballast, on keel. " 



ARROW.-This sloop is now hauled out at Greenport, L. I. Mr A 

 Gary Smith has taken off her lines preparatory to the projected atter- 



NE-vV SINGLEHAND YACHTS.-Mr. Clapht.tn is building to order 

 a singlehand cabin yacht, 10ft, waterline, 



U^tav C a^vu ! r^-T : r^im' rgP!iS ' ° f Bosto "' a "'' gating out the 



KeULEET.— Atgoutb Boston 219. yachts are hauled out for the 



LONG ISLAND Y. C. -Expects to build a club house on Grnvesend 



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