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Mr. Gurler : We have had that record every time 

 we have changed; we are on the fourth pit, and we 

 have had that experience with each one of them. Our 

 divisions were filled exactly the same. 



Mr. Graham: I have noticed that cows always 

 shrink, no matter what the change is when 3^011 

 change the feed, even if it is better feed, sometimes, a 

 very little will make a difference, especially in a large 

 herd. 



Mr. Gurler : Mr. Oatman at Dundee, took the same 

 position that Mr. Graham does, he told me he pre- 

 ferred to grow all the fodder he could on the corn, and 

 buy his ground feed. I prefer to get the corn in the 

 ensilage myself and save the husking and shelling and 

 grinding. I don't think it ought to get to the point of 

 maturity that has been spoken of here. It ought to 

 be green. 



The Chairman : Do you consider a corn ration as 

 good as any other for milk ? 



Mr. Gurler : I do not advocate corn. I want to get 

 what corn feed I want my cows to have in the ensi. 

 lage. Then I will supplement it with some other nu- 

 tritious feed. 



Mr. Graham : I think that in the cured corn you are 

 apt to have too much corn in your ensilage. 



Mr. Gurler: I believe that you can plant eight or 

 ten quarts of seed to the acre and you won't get any 

 more corn feed in the ensilage than is advisable for the 

 cows to have. 



The Chairman : Is the corn in the silo any better 

 ration for milk than it is out of the silo ? Is the char- 

 acter of the corn changed by putting it in the silo? 



Mr. Gurler: O, I don't think the character of the 

 porn is changed. I don't think the corn that comes 



