84 ILLINOIS STATE DAIRYMEN'S ASSOCIATION. 



Mr. Lyons: It would be a great expense collecting this 

 cream. The farmer's expense in hauling the milk is not to be 

 compared with the creameryman's expense, and then a great 

 part of the winter season the farmer's are not busy anyway. The 

 creameryman would have to hire a team at two or three dollars 

 a day, and that is cash paid out. 



Mr. Willson: It costs something to hitch up and drive three 

 or four miles through this mud, it comes out of the farmer any- 

 way. How about hauling it in the summer time when the 

 farmers are busy.^ 



Mr. Lyons: A great part of the milk is brought in by chil- 

 dren on the farm, young people, girls and old people, that are 

 not very serviceable on the farm, and in this way it is done with 

 very light expense. The farmer must come to town for supplies 

 and he doesn't really lose any time, and many of them don't 

 live more than a mile or two, and where they club together 

 they only have to come in once a week. 



Mr. Willson: Would not the value of the skim milk for rais- 

 ing hogs and calves be more if left home fresh on the farm 

 than such as is delivered from the ordinary southern Illinois 

 creamery.^ 



Mr. Lyons: No, I don,t think so. 



Mr. Boyd: As it looks to me, it is totally impossible for a 

 man to operate fifty machines at the same expense that he can 

 one and that is the foundation of the whole business. If this 

 gentlema.i has seventy-five or a hundred patrons, that would 

 necessitate seventy-five or a hundred machines instead of one. 



Mr. Lyons: I suppose the idea is that the farmer owns his 

 own hand separator. 



Mr. Boyd: That don't alter the question. He has got an 

 investment in his machine and he has got to operate it and 

 keep it in condition. In your creamery you operate one or two 

 machines for, say, seventy-five patrons. In the other • case 

 there are seventy-five machines to be operated in different parts 

 of the country. Another thing is, that there are not two far- 

 mers that will operate machines alike. 



