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say that on the responsibihty of other farmers besides myself. 

 I know of one gentleman who wintered forty-eight head of 

 horses three years on shredded corn stalks and they have done 

 better than they did on hay. It will prevent the heaves if it 

 won't cure them. 



Question: About what is the proper ratio at which to feed 

 bran and linseed meal, and your fodder.^ 



Mr. Judd: Sixteen pounds of bran to fifty pounds of fodder. 



Mr. Newman: The common feed up in the Elgin district is 

 one third corn, one third oats, one third bran, all ground. 

 We fed our corn stalks whole for a while and then we got a 

 cutter and we liked them much better cut. A couple of years 

 ago we got what is termed a •• thresher," which I believe is 

 as practically the same as a shedder, and that is better still. 

 We believe we can get more product to the acre by partially 

 helping the cow chew up the roughage. We don't start in in 

 the fall and shred all our fodder and put it in the barn, or 

 in stacks, but we do it about once a week, so that we don't feel 

 the expense. 



Mr. Stewart: The reports of some of these experiments are 

 put out very blindly and we get wrong impressions. Now, I 

 would like to ask Mr. Chubbock. isn't there as much virtue in 

 feeding clover hay to cows as in feeding timothy hay^ 



Prof. Chubbock: That experiment was in feeding beef steers 

 and it was in reference to the gain, the number of pounds that 

 they would add to their weight, not feeding dair^' cattle at all. 



Mr. Judd: Now, that is a complete solution of the whole 

 problem. I vnll admit that a ton of timothy hay is equal to a 

 ton of clover hay for beef, but we thought Mr. Chubbock was 

 talking about dairy cows. 



Mr. Chubbock: In determining the nutritive value of feed 

 it is usually applied to gain in weight. That is the usual appli- 

 cation of the term. I made that statement in regard to tnat 

 experiment in support of the statement as to the value of corn 

 fodder, the feeding value of corn fodder, and I assumed that or- 



