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ity, but I tell you so long as that condition exists you are going 

 to have trouble. It seems to me if we could only stand by the 

 same rules and compel the fellows producing cream to take care 

 of it you would be all right, and I don't see any ether way. 



Mr. Cobb : — From the patrons' standpoint I can answer that 

 question. If I had to go back to the old method of hauling milk 

 to the creamery and letting it come home at 2 or 3 o'clock in the 

 afternoon, through the heat of summer and frost of winter, I 

 would not bring it to the creamery. I put a value on my skim 

 milk of 50 cents per cwt. to feed high class calves and pigs, and 

 I believe the hand separator is the solution of the problem of 

 better stock on the farms. 



Mr. Glover: — There is a point Mr. Gurler brought out 

 which I think is a good position to take; it has been a common 

 thing in the northern part here for dairymen to practice taking 

 milk and cream that the other fellow had refused, so it really 

 forced the man who was to stay in the business to take every- 

 thing that came to him, and a farmer soon learns that he does 

 not have to pay much of any attention to caring for his milk 

 and cream in order to sell it at a first-class price. It is about 

 time that those things were changed, time to get action. Put 

 men into the field to stop it. We have been talking ever since 

 I can remember about getting better milk and cream to our fac- 

 tories, and don't you think it is time we had more men in the 

 field to force this condition that we have been talking on for 

 so many years? 



The President : — We will take up the next paper, because 

 these papers following as they do I think the general discussion 

 at last will save a good deal of time. We will hear from Mr. 

 Mann on the creamery needs from a buttermakers standpoint. 



