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we were doing something about establishing a law of that kind. 

 Would it not be a good point for the committee to take up when 

 they go to Springfield? 



The President : — Of course you understand the reason that 

 we have these samples is to get an accurate quality, and it is 

 pretty hard to get thick cream out of the bottles. If they are 

 careful in taking the samples and careful in getting them out of 

 the bottle, I believe you will get accurate results. It has been 

 my experience that with 20 per cent cream the pipette will give 

 you about as accurate a test as your scale will. 



Mr. Lea : — 18 c. c. pipette will give about 20 per cent cream, 

 but you do not get it accurate. 



Mr. Gurler : — I think I can explain the situation about this 

 thin cream. In some instances the gentleman who is handling 

 the hand separators puts a machine in at A's; meantime before 

 two days have passed there is another machine; probably in a 

 day or two another comes along, maybe three or four of them. 

 One will set the machine so he gets a thinner cream, and will 

 say to A, " Here you skim tomorrow with that machine and with 

 my machine and you will see that my machine gives the more 

 cream." They work all sorts of schemes. The farmer will 

 believe the separator man before he will the creamery man. In 

 a number of instances that is where they get the thin cream. I 

 leave a great deal of that trouble to the people selling hand 

 separators. 



The President : — Any further discussion ? 



Member : — I do not doubt but the creamery men here would 

 all like to have patrons send us heavy cream, but the only way is 

 to weigh each man's cream by itself. Cream of about 25 per 

 cent adheres to the can. There ought to be some way to over- 

 come that for we all want heavy cream. 



The President : — Don't they return your cans clean ? 



Member: — I have had some experience along that line. I 

 stir my cream up thoroughly before I take my sample. After 

 getting my sample, I rinse my can. I do not want to send that 

 farmer back any butterfat, but the thicker he brings his cream 



