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Prof. Hayden: — We give it a good oating to start with 

 before we put it in alfalfa. We have no definite rule as to how 

 often we manure it. We top dressed it a little last year and ex- 

 pect to again this year. 



Mr. Campbell : — I think the great trouble is that farmers 

 undertake to raise alfalfa on land that would not raise an um- 

 brella in seven years, and consequently they have no success with 

 it. We have to have rich land for alfalfa. 



Prof. Hayden : — A good crop of alfalfa will give you about 

 as much nutriments as you will get from a piece of corn, so you 

 have to have ground that will produce good corn if you want to 

 produce alfalfa. 



Member : — I would like to ask if it is profitable to use phos- 

 phate in connection with the lime ? 



Prof. Hayden: — I cannot say as to your section, as that 

 varies in different sections. Perhaps someone else can answer 

 that question better than I. It strikes me we have phosphate 

 enough here to grow alfalfa if you get your soil inoculated and 

 in good condition and use enough lime to neutralize the acidity. 

 I do not know whether your section is deficient in phosphate 

 or not. 



Member : — The better way is for each one to experiment for 

 himself, because two fields adjoining would not be in the same 

 condition. 



The President: — I am sorry to stop this interesting dis- 

 cussion, but we have two other numbers on the program by very 

 distinguished gentlemen and quite a number of questions will 

 undoubtedly come up then. 



It seems to me there are hardly enough yellow badges in the 

 audience. You can get these badges at the secretary's desk. For 

 the good of the cause I wish you would all join the association. 



I hardly need introduce our next speaker. Professor Van 

 Pelt, whom you all doubtless know by reputation. Mr. Van 

 Pelt was with the Jersey herd at the St. Louis exposition. He 

 has been prominent in our dairy work and we have learned to 

 accept his statements as very reliable. He is certainly a man who 

 knows what he speaks and is an excellent writer. I take pleasure 

 in presenting to you Professor Hugh Van Pelt, of Ames, Iowa, 

 who will speak to us on calf rearing. 



