THIRTY-EIGHTH ANNUAL CONVENTION 107 



Mr. Jorgenson : My observation has been that the co-opera- 

 tive creamery is not a success in America; there are a few that 

 have made a success and are a good paying proposition for the 

 farmer, but they are very few. I was brought up in a country 

 where the co-operative creameries were a success and it took me 

 a long time to understand why the co-operative creameries are 

 not successful in this country. 



I am safe in saying that nine out of ten get a death blow 

 before they are started. They are not started under the co- 

 operative spirit; they do not go into it in a co-operative spirit. 

 They are started mostly by promoters and receive a death blow 

 before they are started. The promoter tells the farmers how 

 large a dividend a creamery will pay, just as soon as they stick 

 in their $100.00, but they forget to say that the creamery has to 

 make it before it will pay. The farmer doesn't understand about 

 it until after he gets in. 



As a rule the co-operative creamery is furnished with a man 

 by the promoters ; they get a cheap skate, who doesn't know much 

 more than the farmers about running a creamery, and the result 

 is they do not make a success of it. A few have made a success 

 but mighty few. Seventy-five per cent of the creameries, or even 

 more that are running today are run by individuals and make a 

 success because the individuals usually understand the business. 

 There are many other things that could be said but I will not take 

 } -mr time to go into them. 



It is said the farmers have not the co-operative spirit; they 

 do not stick together long enough. Where I came from the co- 

 operative creamery is not started by a promoter, it is started by 

 the farmers. They pledge themselves for ten years to deliver -the 

 milk from not less than so many cows ; they cannot deliver the 

 milk to another creamery during those ten years. The co-oper- 

 tive creameries will be a success when you do this, and not before. 



Mr. Newman : As to the value of going into winter dairy- 

 ing; is there a more net profit made in winter dairying than ir 

 summer dairying when you get 25c for your butter? 



Mr. Jorgenson : I will give you my personal view. I can- 



