110 ILLINOIS STATE DAIRYMEN'S ASSOCIATION. 



Member : I am glad to hear this discussion. A few of us 

 do that thing and we are well satisfied with it here in Southern 

 Illinois. I can get my cows to give 20 per cent more by having 

 them freshen in October. My grandfather lived in Rhode Island ; 

 he thought nobody ought to raise a calf. Where do you get your 

 calves ? 



Member : The creameries get the good dairymen ; the good 

 dairymen do not sell to the condenseries ; that has been my ex- 

 perience. 



Mr. Newman : Another point on their doing this business. 

 I presume this audience understands just how fast this country 

 is growing. If all of this audience should start in the winter 

 dairying it would not flood the market; but probably not more 

 than ten per cent will, that has been our past experience. 



Mr. Wing: As I understand Mr. Jorgenson, he was not 

 trying to say to us that it was cheaper to produce in summer, 

 but just tried to explain why some were doing it. He also said 

 it would be better to produce more milk in winter because you 

 would get more out of it. His intentions were good. 



Mr. Jorgenson: I did not want to misinform any one, but 

 when I talk to the farmers about this winter dairying they say 

 they cannot afford to produce milk in winter. I believe I would 

 rather own a bunch of cows in winter than in summer. I will go 

 further and bring out another point. You can milk a good deal 

 more in winter and if you give your cows good care they are 

 bound to keep up the flow and they will be dry in July and Aug- 

 ust. But I do not want you to understand that I advocate a one- 

 sided proposition. I -believe in having a uniform production all 

 of the year around so that you will produce about the same 

 amount each season of the year. This is the protection for he 

 dairyman, and in this way he is going to get as much as possi- 

 ble. 



Take the St. Louis market, I hear from men that I coihe 

 in contact with that the town hasn't half enough in the winter 



