50 ILLINOIS STATE DAIRYMEN's ASSOCIATION. 



C. C. BuELL : Did not know whether Judge Wilcox 

 was a Granger or not ; would make a good one at all 

 events. Did not think all his statements would '' hold 

 water." Did not believe any factory could give a certain 

 number of pounds of products for a specified amount of 

 milk. It is all mixed — no two alike ; each thinks his plan 

 the best, and the only. The largest yield he knew of was 

 one pound of butter from twenty pounds of milk. He 

 knew of factories only paying fifty cents per lOO pounds for 

 milk ; this is too low ; farmers could not live at it. 



Wilcox : Advocated no definite plan of setting. And 

 in reference to capital going into the business, he knew of 

 no capitalist going into it ; they were mostly irresponsible 

 men, of no bottom whatever, which the dairymen of this 

 vicinity had found out to their sorrow of late. 



E. H. Seward : Thought Wilcox made a good point 

 when he described the loose manner in which the factories 

 are now run. It is a fact, the dairyman knows nothing about 

 what is being done with his milk. It pays the factoryman 

 better to make both butter and cheese, and so he makes it. 

 The factoryman is independent ; he has your milk and your 

 money. He pays himself first and you last. You stand 

 all the bad debts, shrinkage of weights, bad cheese, and all 

 the other bad things of the business. The dairyman should 

 have something to say, as to how the milk shall be worked 

 up, how and when sold, and to whom sold. This can all 

 be remedied if farmers will all unite. 



C. H. Larkin said the whole plan needed moral sup- 

 port, before any radical change could be effected. In 

 reference to capital invested, he said, in 1875 the Conden- 

 sing Co., of Elgin, made the following figures with reference 



