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clay for the bottom of the ditch to cover them. But you 

 might get it all layed out for you, though you could never 

 do any thing until you learned by experience. An open 

 ditch would not drain the land as well as tile. It filled up, 

 and then you couldn't get the water from the bottom ; still, 

 you should use an open ditch in draining peat beds. 



Patrick : Thought if all farmers had plenty of money 

 to use, they should have large tile, but as they hadn't, they 

 must take the matter gradually. He had found no trouble 

 in keeping open his open ditches. 



Lawrence: Had seen open ditches used and knew 

 they cost double what tiles did, to keep them open. 



Rev. Wren : Thought there was much difference in 

 open drains. He would like to hear Mr. Patrick explain 

 what kind of an open ditch he used. 



Patrick : His ditch was two and one-half or three 

 feet deep, and cost him twenty-two and one-half cents per 

 rod to dig. He had had no trouble with its being filled up 

 so far, but if it did fill it could easily be opened again. He 

 thought it was surely the cheapest ditch. 



On motion, the convention then adjourned to 7:30 p. m. 



