tj^S ILLINOIS STATE DAIRYMEN'S ASSOCIATION. 



A. Yes sir. 



Mr. Monrad: Isn't it a fact that it is illegal to sell skim milk at all; 

 we can punish men for selling 4 per cent milk skimmed down to 3 per cent 

 ^^when we can prove it has been skimmed. Under our law I understand we 

 ^can d'o that. If the milk has not been skimmed and it is below 3 per 

 •^3ent they will not be allowed to sell it as milk, they must sell it as skim- 

 med milk. 



A. That is the law in the case, but the facts are they can skim down 

 'to 3 per cent without it being possible to do anything in the matter. 



Mr. Newman: In your shippers' cans generally it will run higher 

 Shan 3 per cent? 



A. Yes sir, the percentage will depend on the time of the year, nearly 

 4 per cent in Chicago we get. 



Q. What would be the estimate of a test of 100 farmers' milk? 



A. Mr. Monrad could answer that. 



Mr. Monrad: The yield from 112 patrons of creameries was 3.8, 

 wasn't it, of butter fat. But I want to explain. I had my figures from 

 *he creameries in butter yield and I had to figure back on that and got 

 3.8 for the year. 



Q. Four per cent fat in the butter? 



A. Yes sir. 



Mr. Dietz: He spoke of the duty of the railroads on that matter. 

 I/ast August I tested your cream that was put on the train at a distance 

 of 68 miles from Chicago at a temperature of 55. That cream was turned 

 -over to the milk dealers at a temperature of 58. Do you think the rail- 

 xoad men could do better than that? 



Q. How long on the road? 



A. Two and one-half hours en the road. 



Mr. Newman: What was the atmosphere? 



A. A hot day in August, 90 degrees. 



Mr. Gurler: Was that in a common milk car or refrigerator? 



A. That was the car Mr. Gurler ships in, the regular milk car that 

 the milk goes in. 



