ILLINOIS DAIRYMEN'S ASSOCIATION. 61 



Question. And if it overruns, you make it up? 



Answer. We make it up in the price to the patrons. 



Question. Do you mean to say you figure up two or three different prices 

 every month? 



Answer. Yes, if it is necessary. 



Question. I do not fool my patrons in that way ! 



Answer. You have no need to fool your patrons. Tell them honestly what 

 you get. 



Question. What I want to get at is this : Is or is not the system of buying 

 cream by the inch a fraud? Should it not always be tested ? 



Answer. I would like to find a test that is correct, and I would buy the 

 cream by test. 



Mr. Curtis : Do you find your cream raised by the Cooley creamer pretty 

 uniform? 



Answer. Yes, we have good success with our butter. 



Question. How does the quality compare with the factories that receive 

 the whole milk? 



Answer. Since June 1, we have been as high as 3,200 gauges a day, not 

 less than 2,000 yet ; and we have not had a tub of butter rejected in that 

 time, at Elgin prices. We get the top of the market. 



Mr. Dexter : It is well understood in most cream gathering factories, that 

 I am acquainted with, that there is a very wide difference in the quantity of 

 butter that 2% inches or any other given quantity will make. I think I have 

 seen 100 men working on the cream-gathered plan during the past few years, 

 and it was a recognized fact that so many cubic inches were supposed to make 

 so many pounds of butter. During five years creamery men have discovered 

 that it is possible to milk, say 50 cows, and divide the milk into two equal parts, 

 and raise twice as much cream on one lot as on the other ; and the creamery 

 men found that by paying by bulk, they are simply robbing Peter to pay Paul, 

 and I think they have concluded that there is no business system that does not 

 include the test in some form. 



Mr. Gillis : The greatest trouble with creamery men is, that they try to 

 hire men too cheap to do the skimming. The man that is doing this skimming 

 must be a judge. If this cream is not right, it is measured for what it is worth. 

 If the cream is thick and heavy, and liable to overrun, the skimmer will allow 

 it to him. 



Question. Can he determine by the looks of the cream how much it will 

 overrun ? 



Answer. He can determine just as well as he can by the test. I have run 

 the test churn, and I never could get any satisfaction or make any money on it. 



Mr. Buell : How long have you run a test churn? 



Answer. More or less for the last year. I bought by test about two 

 months in spring of 1883. It has been in the wagons all the time. We have 

 not bought by it at all. We run that as an outside matter. 



Question. I would like to know how many days you make tests? 



Answer. Three hundred and sixty-five days in the year. 



Question. How many tests in each day? 



Answer. From ten to one hundred. 



