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always be counted on the profit side, while shiftlessness, avarice, deceit, pure 

 meanness and fraud, will eventually lead to loss. 



DISCUSSION. 



Prof. Henry: I understood you to say that you have grade Jerseys? 



Answer. Yes. 



Question. About how much butter can you get in a year, as your herd runs, 

 per cow? 



Answer. I cannot give the exact figures. I can give you the gross receipts. 

 From the first of January up to the present time, I have had twenty-three cows 

 that have dropped calves, and all of them, except three or four, have dropped 

 their first calf. The receipts of butter up to the first day of December, were 

 $650.00 from twenty-three head, that dropped calves during the time, just as a 

 herd would run, some fresh probably last fall, and some just lately. It was 

 really a herd of heifers. 



Question. About how much was the butter sold for? 



Answer. I did not sell any of it for less than 20 cents, except one or two sales 

 at 17 cents. Most of it was 20 cents for the summer months. Since then it has 

 been sold on the market. Of course, this was not an average herd, and they 

 have not been milked an equal length of time. 



Mr. Stockwell: I understood this gentleman to say, in his paper, that the 

 greatest loss to the dairy was attributed to butterine. Now, is it not a fact that 

 the poor dairy butter of this country costs the dairymen of the country more 

 than butterine does? It is my opinion that it is a damage ten to one to what 

 butterine is. 



The Chairman: This poor butter costs a loss to the producer of it. But- 

 terine costs a loss to the men that make fine goods, and we are all hurt by it. 



Mr. Stockwell: But does not that butterine compete more with poor 

 butter, than with the fine creamery butter? 



The Secretary: No, Sir. 



Mr. Allen: Let me ask, Mr. Stockwell, did you attend the Fat Stock 

 Show? 



Answer. No, Sir. 



Mr. Allen: Well, sir, I think if you had attended that, your views would 

 be different. I spent ten days there with my butter, and I made up my mind 

 that the butterine folks have got the field. And why? Because they present 

 an article that you can put upon the counter with the best butter, and one-half 

 of the consumers in this country cannot tell the difference, and there is 10 cents 

 a pound difference in the price and they are certainly going to take the butterine, 

 and my butter will be passed by. That is the condition I find the market in. It is 

 my opinion that seven out of every ten people in the city of Chicago, are to-day 

 eating butterine in the place of butter, and that they are satisfied with it, and 

 that there is nothing to do with these butterine people but to kill the prejudices 

 of the people, and that they are sure to do, because they cannot tell the difference 

 between a good butter and a poor one, and they have got the market to-day, 

 and they are. going to hold it, and you cannot make any laws in this State in my 

 opinion; you cannot get the honest people of this State of Illinois to make a 

 law that will reach them. The profits go directly into the pockets of this great 



