156 li^LINOIS STATE DAIRYMEN'S ASSOCIATION. 



Mr. Spies : I go twice a year to Mr. Causey's place. It is 

 as fine a little farm as I know of. 



I really feel grateful to the Illinois Association for coming 

 down into my territory. We work in conjunction, and I tell you 

 the farmer is friendly toward me. I do not ask him to put up 

 stations for us and pay for them and they know it. I grew up 

 on the farm and among the cows. 



The mutual benefit comes in this way, we need the milk in 

 the city and the farmer will produce it if he gets good returns. 

 That has been my experience in the past. 



Member: If you were going to build a barn how would 

 you go about it? 



Mr. Spies: If I were going to build a barn I would look 

 up barns and take the best barn for a model. I was taken with 

 the Fort Atkinson idea. I would have plans drawn and then 

 submit them to an expert, that is what I would do if I were go- 

 ing to build a barn today. Make up my mind how many cows 

 I want to stable, and then submit it to Hoard's Dairyman. 

 Work out your plan. In fact what you want to do in the way of 

 a barn at the present time is to get your plans and everything 

 complete. Be sure you are right and then go ahead. There are 

 lots of things I like and lots of things I do not like. 



Member: Some farmers are so dense, it takes forever to 

 convince them. 



Mr. Spies : Yes, they are hard to handle if they do not 

 want to be handled. 



Member : Will it pay a man with a high grade of milk to 

 sell it to a creamery and keep the skim milk at home ? 



Mr. Spies : In high testing milk it seems to me it would 

 pay better to separate it and keep the skim milk at home at the 

 present time. 



Member : I just started in the dairying business, since the 

 loth of November. I used to dairy in Iowa. I have four cows, 

 for the month of December they brought me in $51.90, for the 

 three weeks in January $37.00, that is $14.00 per head. I send 

 the cream to Decatur and keep the skim milk at home. 



