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FOREST AND STREAM. 



[OOTOBEB 14, 1880. 



r. q. Yirkory, H. F. T<'aniliam mid E. W. Cobuvn. The Ex- 

 ecutive CoiiuniUi-c iiiipoiiUeil the follovviug wardens : An- 

 droscoegiii— J. F. Pcttinarill, Auburn; Cumberland — Frank 

 Merrili, PorilniKi -. Keiiiielirc— Dr. G. W. TiFaniii, Antrusla ; 

 Oxford— W. S. Skillinss, Bflliel : nnaadalioc- -C. II. Greeo- 

 Icaf, Ballj ; Peaobscui— li. 11. Mersey, Bimgor ; Knox- 

 James Wight, Roclcland. York— Z. M. Cushmaii, Kenue- 

 biiuk. As soon as a charter is gianlcd, these wardens will 

 po.ssess the san>e authority as State wardens. 



Retuhn i>r:SUov..\TOV.\Cl\:Mi. — Jujr!iixt,v\ JY. K, Ori. -t. 

 It willbeimr.-.'Rlilr ne ■■ ' ... 



r^ to I 



quail that |1 

 (ViimTT CIuli proiiiisf 

 G. D.H., nn wlioHr r 

 were plaoe.J, (o-dav in 

 the birds close b^■ v.lu 

 Rethink? there .^re to 

 days ago tlie vounn w 

 went off Hive the naiiv 

 others of those set oul 

 seem able to take care 

 making an effort to pr 

 pre,vent shootbg for t 

 against the soulless p.i 

 went in the tcmi ol It 

 city, and shot about liftet 

 of the decent gporlsmeu wen 

 wc can discover ndio the fell 

 VfiW -n-ish liis priwder Imd Ih 

 good woodcock shooting h< 





ed in this viciuilv by llie M-u:!-. ., 

 a eomiilete success." MvtiiiMi.l, 

 ,n-e pairs ol' ll„- bnp.ated ,piail 

 niiii'<luie ihat there are two iievics of 

 .'licliberiite.l the old ones this spriu.u. 

 y ill the bevies, and when .seen .soiuc 

 e suonu; of wiug, and wlien rluslK'd 

 noli White. Ibave heanl thai, .some 

 ly the Glub hatched lar>;c broods that 

 if themselves. In this "county we arc 

 ec| the native quail and jirouse, and 

 ■ee Years. Iiul it is difficult to guard 

 Imiitcr. one of winch class last week 

 I, about four miles from this 

 ii out of a bevv which .some 

 ryinfciosavc for "seed." If 

 was that ilid this mean act he 

 1 wet. There has been very 

 'oiii, since the o|jening of the 

 season. Viul I rcg-i'et lo .say that must of the birds fomul their 

 way to resttmrants. There have been a few good bags of .cray 

 plover shot on the uiilauds and wheat fields, and duck shoot- 

 ing is o]i.!i-, : , . r j prospects. It has been too dry for 



snipe, M ; . .c been picked up, and on Saturday I 



mv: :i _" . I III II market: they were shot at "the 



p ' "' III III' ' ist match at balls the Monroe 



' i^.besterGmi Club, and the latter 

 ■ rue Dansville Sportsmen's As- 

 sl-i :._... ._-!_., i... I. :;J;ae challenging the M. C. C. In 

 a my biid match la.st Thursday G. W. Crouch, Jr., beat Al. 

 Kvershed ; score, Croucli, single, 26, double, 18 ; Evershed, 

 single, 27, double, 11. Diving Decoy. 



Some Gun Tri.vi.b— IlV/rffcy. Gu.—EdiU'r Fi>reiit and 



Stream: It was sueeriugly asked i 



the "wah," who would shoot any but i 



were English. Some were chcnv aral 



hiirh priced and worthless: Purily, Rid 



the oniv makers in wliom jniy 



all that is changed. A\'e ha- 



brecch-loadiiig rifle 



the front^ with bree 



celled in beauty of tinish, : 



close shooting. " In the folio 



& Rand's powder, verv eoar.^ 



Uoz. Ko. 8. shot, with twr 



the South, before 

 1 English gun ? All 



Id be 



the 



aid 



rd. Xr, 



thi 



To te; 



der, and 

 was No. IL'. 

 beard, ^ ill. in tli 

 in.: disiance, 4/J n 

 Fo.x, left, 284, 



:i Ko 



some Ajiierican lirmscomelo 

 •eh-loading shotguns that are not to be ex- 

 rapidity of action, and in hard, 

 ,viiig trials I used 3.!, drs. L:itlin 

 n giMin aud ycit mild. I u.'-cd 

 . ii iiink edsed \vads on pow- 

 tel on shot. The suilge of all the truns 

 •St the penetration, I u.sed sheets of paste- 

 ■kncs^, pla.'i'd one inch apart. Target. 30 

 asure.l \ards. 



right. aOI : riemiugion, left, 231. right, 

 285; Colt, left, 32fi right. 287: Stevens, left, ISii. right, 

 251 : Clabrough, left. 273, right, 398: Baker, left, 337, right, 

 3C1. Penetration ujiiforralv ^, with one exception, where 

 Colt gave 1-16. 



Selecting the Fox and Baker guns as giving the best results, 

 I tired one round, both barrels, at 40 yards, l^o. sliot, same 

 charge as above. 



Baker, left, 237, right. 351 : Fox, left, 192, right, 206. 

 Penetration same aa above. 



All the above guns were t'flttory made, with the sole excep- 

 tion of the Clabrough, who.se owner claimed that he paid $260 

 for it. 



Compai'ing the results of the above trial, we find that Amer- 



ican gunmidvers I 



that will equal. 



the -mavi-.-. i 



that the 



80 inch 



ditlerencr n 



and our shot, ma 



6. No one could be more surp 



trial than myself. 1 had fieen t; 



led in makinL'- a breech-loader 



early, rjreeuer's. one of Ibe best in 



does not claim for his best guns 



than from 380 to 300 No. C shotlu a 



and in this trial we must allow llie 



er of pellets to the oz. English shot 



No. 7 about equal to the Pifglish No. 



■ d at the result of ihe above 



ight to lieheve that En dish 



guns were far .superior to American guns. .Mk 



and tear of the guns I say nothing, for I know nothing; Vmt 



judging from tlxe appear:ince of most of Ihe .Imcricau gims 



used in the above tiiid, I shotdd say that they were honestly 



made. 



There has been a great deal of balderdash of late years about 

 the superiority of choke-bored guns for large shot. I cannot 

 use buckshot in mine, for T think them injmious to the gun. 

 "With BB I can kill any game we have in Georgia, sending 

 it through the largest turkey. St. Clair. 



Our eoricii]!. iii.Ii 1,1 m /b . - i i- si.^'r whether the gims were 

 bored alj' in i' ration. 



CoN^rii ii ;, ^ " ■. t,— The ducking season 



for line a;., n.j j i n. ,1 :,i George Lanfear's on Sept. 35. 

 Thenigli! in im n nuintier of the gun club went down. 

 The line bun.., ::i /ax a. .\f. the next morning, about one 

 liour too lao- and too f;u- from the shore. There were very 

 few ducks killed. The line broke up at one and at two the 

 shooters sat down to one of Lanfear's capital dinners. The 

 last week there has been an unusually good fly of wild 

 pigeons and yellow hammers, but for "some un.wcountable 

 reason very few wild pigeons have been killed. The largest 

 bag, which was made bj- Messrs Mallory and Son in two 

 mornings, was 140 wild pigeons ; J. R. Bradly, 20 ; L. Ear- 

 ner, 25 ; J. Linsly, IC in one morning. Mr. A. Bamer one 

 morning killed 56 yellow hammers. II. and J. Linsly during 

 the week have bagged 94 yellow hammers, 25 pigeon and l6 

 gray squirrels. Lcete has killed abotit 10 and Lines claimed 

 to have killed 1 wild pigeon and 7 hammers, the latter he 

 could not find as it was not on his pole. It is claimed that a 

 member of the club has been unable to find his wardrobe since 

 the last flight, and owing to his exposure that morning is not 

 .able to be out. The gaiiie law went off on Oct. 1 , but owing 

 to the warm weather and .scarcity of woodcock there were but 

 very few who wotild inform one" of their success. The Potter 

 Brothers show their bag the first day, which consisted of SO 

 quail, 10 woodcock and 2 pai'tridge." David Oowell brought 

 home five or six quail, others came home without a bird and 

 several claim they didn't go out. L. 



A Test CABTt.—Omego, N. T., Oct. %.— Editor Forest and 

 Btream: The Ontario Hunting and Fishing Society of this 

 city, an association of^gentlemen leasing a large body of 



marsh 1 

 some Ii 

 trespassi 

 beini: ' 

 of tire L 

 for tria 

 of this 

 mem be 

 penalty, 



iiiid upon the shove of Lake Ontario, near this place 



me since instituted an action against certain parties for 



iinc upontheu- groundBaudhmatiutrfhereon.'such action 



•ought under, and by virtue of Scr, oy ,,' Chapter 534 



laws of 1879 and it-s Limemliiicnl', Tla:- rnsp came on 



1 yesterdav, Oci,. 1, iicbire (b t», eb.se. Es.;],, Justice, 



city, and resnlled in favor of the nlainliffs. a indg- 



ns obtained bv them for one violafion of ihe law— 



.*25 and costs. This sueeeBS, it is to he hoped, will 



Oeter other hiwless Imnters from ineurrina- like risks, ami will 



iniiieri the rights pm-ehascd bv Ihe clule Whv the owner 



I if V, ■-• SI e marsh land should not be- emitled to obtain lliere- 

 tn .III an incMiTic by way (•: in.ti.b :;;■ web as from other por- 

 tions of his f:i,rm by\', r • ' III. b- I b c only c^uestion 

 involved, and we belii'i _• • ,i ml determined 

 f'nt'-rieiiients of propci i • , ,, , may ar-ise, will 



■' ' -ittrr once ioi :iii. i jic Umario Hunting imd 

 liTopose to deal with all men fairly, butlhoy 

 ii'iwing and having paid for their rights, to 

 ■ ■• ■••■••. ' F. E. H. 



Ga.me Peospeots is Minnesota.— .'^'-Jift r'f„(,v-. .Sc^n". 2|i,— 

 Plenty of geese, ducks, sand-hill cranes, etc., liave now made 

 their ;ippe:tranee in large numbers. A good shot will have 

 little trouble in bagging fifty to .seventy-iive in a d.ay's sport. 

 This country is free from glaring notices such as ■■ No .shuot- 

 imrrdlow-ed on this farm, " DonH shoot in.side the fence," 

 CO'-, I II- . -I •■ -|i iroiaiiii need not tciu- liein- driven off just 



II ii - lb , . oak. In company with :i gentleman 



]!•• I • - 'ill' other dav, wehad a siilendid timeiii 



il.cro.:. •• ■ Ib'Ids, with Ihe braein- air for wiiich 



Mmnesi.i .b The farmers wdl allow one lo dig 



■■flits." II I , . II. -r,il thing, seem tfj enjoy Ihe S|">rt of 



seeing rl:.^ - ... .i . uihl bi'ina: down f'niror five old ■■honkers" 

 as does [lie :iiii;H.Tliiiiisi.b b. ...n. bi>t;ince we had shot a 

 line goose in a muddy bb., n,: i . nc dog would not re- 

 trieve, the generous old -.jirb ..m.i sent the "lad" to the 

 house and brought out tiie ■■ Newdomidland pup," which, it 

 is con-ect to say, soon landed om- gaue on term jirnut, much 

 to the chagrin oif our dog, who now wished he had retrieved. 

 We select the roosting places of the geese and shoot them by 

 moonlight, first concealing ourselves before they return from 

 supper. A rubber coat lends enchantment these evenings. 



Dell. 



The IIeavikst Woodcock. -/-'"/«,A-?--n, .V. Y., Oct. %.~l 

 was greatly inb-rcsp.d on reading '• ParvuB'" letter on 

 "Breeding (Juail in ( 'onllneujeni " in laie issue of Forest 

 a:xd SiKEAA!, and I sincerely hope that some wealthy sports- 

 man, or body of .sportsmen," will step to IMr. IJeubro'ok with 

 Ihe re(|uisite"fmids to make tlris exiieriment to be thoroughly 

 leslcd ; for it not, only is a good work, liul !i great wojl:, one 

 diat certahdy will be gresitlr afypreciaied and patronized ii\' 

 i\Iaine. New" Ibunpslilrc, Vermont, jMa.ss:i<'liuscttH and New 

 York, and prolialily many sister Stales, ;xnd T believe there is 

 not a sportsnv.in in any of the above mentioned States but 

 will cheerfully contribute eaeli his niilp in snob a case lis this, 

 as, iudirine from "Parvus'" letter, Mr. Benbrook is the 

 right, man m till b' , '• 



I also notic. ii|iures for heaviest weight of 



woodcock or o ! . rica, imd as I have had'tfuite 



an extensive c.:,).- ....orlcock and rntferl to-ouse-, I 



will give iu mv U-stiu.oi.v. ::.- in, -....n.-i' -i,i.. • nr years 



ago t shot a remarkably large bi. .i • . litiaeted 



un^altent-iou so forcibly that I bi.! u . n . r li rir, loimd it. 

 kicked Ihe iieam al just, lHoz. ^^I1^.c iLlh I bave slioi iwo 

 or three which 1 thought iniglil [..ssibly be birger, but was 

 not positive, as no facilities for ivcigljiug tlicm were at hand. 

 This I can say is the largest Amei-ieaii woodcock I ever saw. 

 Let US hear from others on this, and also the heaviest weight 

 on ruffed grouse. M. P. McKoos. 



Syracuse, N. Y., Oct. 0.— I find recorded in my note boon 

 the weight of two woodcock— one killed October 10, 1851, by 

 John H.' Mann, the other killed November 10, 1877, by JeQei'- 

 son Downs ; the former weighing 10 ounces, the latterlO 3tli 

 ounces. Have no record of weight of quail. 



JoHS H. Mann. 



The ordinary weights of woodcock are from about 5 to 6^ 

 ounces for males, and 7 to 8 -ounces for females. Id 1874, 

 while quaU shooting in Warren county, N. J., late in Novem- 

 ber, we moved two woodcock one day, the only long bills we 

 found, and were fortunate enough to kill them both. One 

 weighed ^\ ounces and (he other 9 ounces — 18:} ounces for the 

 two. These were the largest woodcock we ever saw. Quail 

 do not seem to have been weighed, but we shall look for re- 

 ports when the season opens. 



Mlt. I;AiTl EXPLAISS— CtoO!? QrvuTid, L. J., Oct. Z.—Edi. 

 tor Forest and Strmrn : Under the heading of ''All Around 

 Notes" in the last issue of your valuable journal, 1 noticed a 

 comnivmication signed ' ' Bedford " and dated LanesviUe, Ohio, 

 Sept. 13, containing certain statements which, in my own 

 justification, 1 feel myself obliged to call in question, relying 

 on your often proved courtes}' to grant me the nece.s'sary 

 space in your paper. In the first place your correspondent 

 omits to mention that he applied to me by letter for accomo- 

 dations, and that I immediately telegraphed him that my 

 house was fuU, in spite of which heand his friends who 

 "wanted to .shoot something" came on from Hoosierland. 

 When they arrived I did the very best I coidd for them, se- 

 curing for tiem the best guide in the neighborhood and also 

 the iiest board and lodging; as for the shooting thej' may 

 have had at places in the bay outside of those leased li)^ me, 

 and which are "private property," I leave that lo be deter- 

 mined by the number of birds .shot in my blinds and marshes 

 as compared with tho.se .shot elsewhere in Shinnecock Bay. 



Although rather irrelevant, permit me to offer you my most 

 hearty approbation of your exposure of that villainous com- 

 poimd yclept "Dittmar powder." William N. Lake. 



A Wlntek SpoETl^•o QsouyTi—Tndmnoki, Texas, Sept. 30. 

 — 1 am glad to give you any information I can in regard to 

 game resources of tlus seciion, but a few lines from my friend 

 "Bexar," of Corpus Christi, who -wields an able pen and who 

 has hunted over this as well as tiic seciion where he now lives, 

 would, I think, be more satisfactory to you and yoiu sub- 

 scribers. In our immediate vicinity we have very fair sport 

 both for fish and game. Go out from amongst the houses and 

 you can sit dowii -with your line in one hand and your gun in' 

 the other, and you are almost sure to have fish or fowl in a 

 short time. In their season, say from August 1 to October 

 1, we have on the prairie thousands of "papabottes" and 

 snipe, a good sprinWing of prairie chickens and cfuaU Ton and 

 near the" river bottoms and where Ihere are :my cover, such 

 as bushes, etc. : the quails are in thousands;. lu (tctoberthe 



feese and di cks begin to arrive, and ff'.-m that time imtU 

 larch we have swans, geese, ducks(of all kinds;, cranes, 

 (sandhill, bugler and others), Wilson and other snipe. Tou 

 need not go over 50 yards from your house to ahoot snipe of 



any kind, :ind a Sliortsi 

 day's shooling and not 

 iween here and C'lrrae 

 with fowls of ail 

 good sprinkling • i 

 sable by boat, an 



iiin of moderate desires e:in have a fair 

 JO a mile troin liome. The bays be- 

 b'lirisii in ihe winter season are alive 

 . II' i the islands there are a 

 :; f)lnces all easily acces- 

 i . II b ;md oysters in shallow 

 ir camp. Any of the lioadneu 

 I • places (and there are plenty 



• . I can have aU the fnn he de- 



,-ii!... b'^ii ...]..,. ,. . ., _,.i...i.r with the appHanees they use 

 Naaih, seel, as bib, ,1s. b.o:!.:, :mil liecovs, c,a.:,l kill immense 

 quantities of :;-aine. Wensen^aie of iliese here, do not take 

 the trouble, as we can kill all wc u,.nf without them. Havmg 

 mild -winters, jianies \vishii;g lo spend the winter hunting or 

 fishing could not pick out -a iicllcr b-cidity, G. 



Loso I'oKNt. -/,.,".'.,•. /'„;_, •'...■.,,,;• g. — Following is the 

 .score of ducks bia _-.,.. i . ... •> .ortsmen now^ at. Long 



Point. Tliefigii' • i.iuis of Lornelaiows 



how to haiuUe hi.- .III. ..- :-.| of his party. Your 



colunnis not long ago contained an sdmuable sketch of the 

 i;ong Point preserves, club-house, etc. The score is as fol- 



OCL 1. Oct* 3. Total. 



I'lie I ;o^'ernor-Rcn 

 ■oKieel De wtniei 

 'afit::ttn Harl>f.r.1.- 

 .lev. Dr. J;.N-ersoii. 

 -'oloriel W;i,l);er.,. 



I. T. Li ml 



nilisard llinrls.. . 



slierljTWooanilT.. 



Bi.vee AHaii 



M. Ah.an 



Total 



135 



— llfl 



Its 



118 



1.143 



>S0MA.L 



Our Detroi'I' Leitek.— /'tiZr.-iV, October 11.— The happy 

 season of llie sportsman is faiily upon us. Ducks are every- 

 where. In two days last week" Mr, L, B. JeweU, of. Hart- 

 for<i, the Nimrr.dian brother of the saiin-haired es-Postmnster- 

 General, biicked hv a well-Imown Detroit hunler, bagged at 

 Point 3iouillie Ibr'cclmndrcd: most, of them were mallard, 

 but a fair proportion were the blue-wingcii ic;ib all fat, .aiad 

 such as 1 liave h:id a tooth in, juic\ . . i a de- 



gree. Andrew .faekson, the philosofi! ibawof 



Saidt Ste Jbirie, recently left bis nati v e •: down 



to Lake Erie to shoof ei"vilized .^-'i-- ..i. ,., decided 



hit as well as liivers misses ; b' -d in sliill with 



his gim lie tLuide up in his neiin be ciudm. &.B 



I predicted, the rush u • ihe Noi 1 1 ' i hand, and-deal- 



crs ill siiortsmeu's supplies are reapiug a shiuing harvest. The 

 pigeon shoot for tlie j\Iiehig:m .State medal, by the membei-s 

 of the Michigan Slate Medal Association, is booked for next 

 Tuesday. There is lo he a lively contest with the result of 

 winch I shall accpiaint vou in mv" next. The Mr. Jewell of 

 whom I bave already written is still surveying the big marsh 

 for duck, having ret'irmed thither on Saturday. 



G. P. O. 



WoKOEBTJSK, MaM. Oct. 9— The Siiortsmen's Clxd) Tiad a 

 .splendid day for their annual shoot yestcrda> , and enjoyed 



Ihemselves qiute asmuchbrealdngglass b ^rciunds 



at the lake as they would have done ! od (he 



woods for a circuit of ZO miles in pursi li . ; le sides 



were chosen and captained bv A. P. Pono auo .xbm flaugh- 

 fon, and resulted in Ihe defeat of the llauifhion side, wl o 

 p;iid for the coUation served on the grounds by Landlord 

 Tower of Ihe Lincoln House. The score was as ('oHows : 



A. P. Pond 17, W. S. Perry 20, W. H. Cole 10, L. R. 

 Hudson 16, J. B. b^oo-iell b^. a". B. F. Kinney 16, C. R. B. 

 Claflin 16. O. F. Tidt 16, Stedrmm Clark U, R, R, Sliepai'd 

 12, C. H. BowkerlS, Chas. Barl ■•.:•!: o: loliJ ITC. 



,\ Him:-j-hion 19, C. B. Hohlen w. '.. .1, l.bi/n 1 G, E. T. 

 Smith 12; M. D. Oilman 15, L. b., W bb. !;. a, l, itiee 10, 

 E. S. Kn.i-b... .^1 I T. Boyd i:^. A- lb Joshm 1'.;. A, F. 

 Halcii b tol:d Hl-l, 



Afti-i .1:1:. swcetistakes were airanged and all 



hands |.ri ; I. sport. A himdsome silver moimtetl 



pistol, offered by Jir, A. B. F. Kiimey, was won bj' Mr. A. 

 P. Pond who broke 16 slrnighl. defeating W. S Perry, who 

 broke 15, the match lietng" shot on the "miss and out" 

 method. There was a large attendance, and everybody had 

 a good time. 



Game Constables. — ^We bave long advocated the .'ippoint- 

 meniof;_- • ■ .e":bie.. ■.-• ■'■•.....i^ .bifleient method of enforc- 

 ing gnu 1! to see others coming 

 arouiini I A game constabulary, 

 as we ],:; , II . I . 1 1 ue solution of this Im- 

 portant prolilem. 



CoDNTiNO C&ovfB—Eor-ntUe/BUk, iV. T., Oct. 10.— Ton wish 

 to know how I know there was 20,000 crows in the flock? 

 Of course I could not swear to it, but think you could safely 

 put in another and then not have too many. 1 counted 238 

 Dying over a cerlain point in just two minutes, and thi-y were 

 flying like that while five of 'ua were shooting a sfriog of ten 

 glass ball apiece. We were in a valley and could only see a 

 small part of the flock, but a gentleman told me as he stopped 

 to see the shooting, that he had been driving under the flock 

 for two miles or niore. So you see there was e-u-ws enough for 

 a big flock. John. 



Imfoiuuation Wanted- Geohgia. dAUi^—Fotlmlle, Oct. 

 11. — I would like a little information in regard to the game I 

 will find in Georgia in the country north of Atlanta, within a 

 radius, say of fifteen or twenty milts. I expect to spend the 

 winter about there, and would hke to know something about 

 the shooling so as to prepare myself beforehand. I use a 

 twelve gauge gun, which I think will do for all the game t 

 shall find so f;w inland. I suppose I wiU he able to get a dog 

 down there, will I not ? 



Deek at Tims Pond.— Mr. J. Warren Tuck -writes : "One 

 Simday, ditring my recent visit to Tims Pond, as T sat on 

 the shore I saw^two deer come down into the lakelet and 

 drink of the clear cool water?, tlien frisk back into their 

 .'orest home." ' He adds thai the whole country there is full 

 of deer,- and those who are prepared to enjoy the sport with 

 due moderation will find Tims Pond ;m excelienl rende7.vous. 

 We are glad to know thai the proprielors of the camps there 

 are determined to see fair play for their visitors, for the trout 

 and for the game. To protect the country and prevent the 

 repetition story of Ihe Rangeleys. Adirondocks andother like 

 restirts some "shrewd protective management, is absolutely 

 essential. 



Illisois.- C%f«^5'o, Sept. 25.-^-Game is more plemtiful than 

 it has been for some time past. The ducks are on the move 

 South. A few days since Mr. Hem-y Kleinman. al Cahunet 

 Lake, shot one Imadred and five ducks, and on Saturday, the 



