m 



FOREST AND STREAM. 



[Dbobmbkr 16, 1880. 



l'. O. Hj-att, Cortland, N. T. 

 Yorlc Hounds. 

 10(1 yards. 80 yai-da. oo yards. Total. 



October 16 22.. 90 SL.IOIS 20. .HR 03.813 



Octoberis 18.. 66 30..116 23. .101 :i..xs.i 



Oc.toberao 21.. 89 29. .321 2i..lin tl.su 



Octobers:! 28. .100 36. .129 24. .144 si. .879 



OcMlifira.n 22.. 84 215. .127 22. .104 ti9..:'.19 



Ormlipr 2T SO. .100 36. .135 2.H..UI7 SS..342 



Oi■t,nilf•r■i^ 22.. 88 87. .121 2U.I11 ;'2..;i':!n 



n,n, illPi- ■« .22.. 78 29. .123 S2. , 1 '-'-I 7:-* . .iiiS 



<./l,l::r > IS.. 67 15.. 78 20,,n« 53. .'.'51 



.._ IS.. 66 25.. 89 23. .121 60. .206 



i.raj-dB: 2a..9t 23..1(iS 19. .WT. 



mud ....,- 8111-5 



. ■! ' ,ril5. X -. •, 812-5 



Averrisre SO yaiUS. •■•Hi "'*' 



Average «o yards .+• '12 



Howard Fry, -WllUamsport, Ponn. 

 York Hounds. 



100 yards. 80 yards tWyard-s. Total. 



Octobers 9. .29 15..IiO 16. .71 30. .159 



October9 i..21 W.-'W li..65 :«i..i3n 



OctOber)6 ....9. .27 15..47 13.. 57 .=17. .1,^1 



OCtoberlS 10. .36 IS. .66 16. .65 44. .147 



Slarrowsateoyards: 9..41 12. .00 14. .60 10.. 4«. 



Average York Hound ''40 J-l 



Average 100 yards ^ » 1-4 



Average 60 yards — 50 i-2 



Average 60 yards »» i-s 



Wlntbrop Sargent, Altoona, Pfinn. 

 York Rounds. 



100 yards. 80 yards. 60 yards. Total. 



OCtOberO IS--™ 26.. 93 17..61 61 233 



October 15 and 27 12. .44 28. .122 18..78 SS..244 



T2 arrows at loo yards : 2«.. 66. 



24 arrows at 60 yards: 13. .59 17. .T9 22.. 100 13. .67 (with IS arrows). 



Average Y"ork Round ....!3S 1-2 



Average 100 yards «3 , ^ 



Average 80 yards. 1«; 1-2 



Average 60 yards • ..-» "IS 1-2 



Wux. H. TnostrsoN, Sec. 



Fair skin, rosy cheeks, buoyant spirits and the sweetest breath in 

 Hop Bitters. See Notice. 



RANGE AND GALLERY. 



A Cballenoe from England— JVb. 20 Grosvenor Plaoe, S, W., 

 Lonion, Nov 26, 1880.— Sib : As chairman of the CotmoU of the 

 National Bifle .Association, I have the honor to invite the National 

 Kifle Association of America to compete with a t«ani of Great Bri- 

 t-un and Ireland next Jttly in an international long-range lifle 

 matoti. If you are pleased to entertain the snggestion, I hope that 

 I may persuade the American Eifie Association to gend over a team 

 ot eight jjentlemen to represent their oount'T' at the "Wimbledon 

 Camp-meeting, which commences on the second Monday of Jiily, 

 1881. The international match could take place about ten days 

 later if convenient, when <mdoubtedly it would attract very con- 

 siderable and wide-spread interest. 



My object in writing thus early is that the Council of our asso- 

 eiation is anxious that if the match takes place all preliminary de- 

 tails may be fully arranged. I have the honor to be, Sir, yours 

 very respectfully, Bt.vnhope. 



The Hon. Judge Gildersleeve, President National Ritle Association. 



The above letter from Earl Stanhope was received Ijy Judge Gil- 

 dersleeve on the 13th instant. No action upon it has yet been 

 taken. 



Bath, jV. 1"., Dec. 9.— Weiad to aU-coiuera' rifle shoot here to- 

 day wth Bome fair scoring done at 200 yards. The record was : 



win. E. Fltcll, Bill. S 3 



James T. iMlles, 8. M. . . 



O. Dexter, S. S 



AVm. T.. Miles. S.C.... 



U. s. Columbd, Cal. S 



A.Poortroyman, S. M. 2 



Vf.V. Taylor,Bal. S 4 



H.R. Sauders, Win ...3 



p. Town, Bak S. 4 



.Tonathan Daly, K. M .i 



At the 16th a gnbecription match ivill be shot at 200 and 500 

 yards, wth military rifles, 60 per cent of the entrance money to 

 be paid to the competitors making the three best scores . The 

 matxih will be open to all comers, with unlimited re-entries. 



The Boston Galleeies. — The new matches at the Magnolia 

 Gallery have proven quite attractive, and both matches have nlled 

 well. The best scores are given as foliowa ' 

 100 feet; pistol, 50 feet: „ , , „ , 

 Match No. 1. 



W. H. I'arnham..- 5 4 s 



W.Jones .,- ......4 6 6 



J. B. Duffy 4 4 6 



O.Wrlglit 4 4 4 



H.HunT,!^ 4 5 6 



H. BWby s 4 6 



Match No. 2. 



£??«Si" -••— -1 I 4 



8 4 



, 3 4 



3 S 



3-33 

 6-32 

 8—25 

 0-10 



intent ; roile. 



5-47 

 5-47 

 5-45 

 0—45 

 6—45 

 4-44 



H-Smlth .- * J * 



H.Hunlla • ■■■■■■* * ° 



F.Oloud * * j 



6 5 4 

 S 6 4 



W. Jones,. 



4 S 4 5-^!5 



5 5 4 4—44 



5 4 4 4-44 

 4 4 4 6-43 



6 4 4 4—42 



The pistol practice has also been lively during the week, and the 



latch which began Doe. 1 is fast becoming very popuHr, many 



v'ftiling themselves to practice at this favorite range. Mr. Elihu 



Wilder, the inventor of the Wilder machine gun, has shown good 



holding with this little weapon ; 50 feet, rotinda 8, possible 40, 



three scores to wm or possible 120 : 



Eimu Wilder .15 36 87— lOS P. J. Snow 32 38 33-98 



J.R.Scott 34 34 85—103 A. C. Goodspeed 32 82 83—97 



(J. O.Barrett 33 34 86-103 P.F.Mlnot. 33 32 82-98 



C.C.Foster B3 83 33—99 O.T.Hart 81 32 32—96 



Boston, Mas^., Dec. 11.— Tlie cold of to-day was the only objection 

 to sport at Walnut Hill, though to the marksmen in the winter 

 Bhcd it was no objection at all. The weather conditions after 12 

 M. tempted large delegations there in the afternoon, and the shed 

 was well filled by the devotees of the ritle, who stuck to their work 

 until darkness compelled them to pack their traps. The day must 

 be aclmowledged to have been a good one for the sport. The sun 

 was obscured, and the mirage before the butts, which is always en- 

 countered on a brightday from the sun's reflection upon the, snow, 

 was absent. The wind gave no imnecsssarj* trouble, and was easily 

 handled by the old vets, while the younger marksmen saw " mags'' 

 appear for too much or too httle wmd elevations. Only the beat 

 scores are given in aU the contests : 



Creedmoor Mateb. 



G.W.Frost 5 5 5 4 4 6 5 4 4 5—46 



A.C.Gates 4 5 5444B4 5—16 



11. Max 4 3 6564645 5—46 



C.B. Prince 6 44644444 6-43 



II. ,\. Gault 6 5 4 4 4 4 4 4 3 4—ti 



IS. Warren 4 46444444 3-40 



A.L.Burt. 4 44444445 3—39 



B.O.Bent 4 45444334 4—39 



Ring Target (Rest). 



8. Lewis.. 11 ]•/ n n 9 ii ji 12 12 11—112 



J. O. Plske..-. 12 12 10 10 11 11 11 11 10 12—110 



J. KlcUolR 8 9 10 11 11 9 T 11 7 11—94 



E.Bennett ....10 9 12 3 8 12 11 8 10 11—94 



W. R. -Scbeier 10 9 9 16 10 9 6 11 10 9—93 



G.B.BaU 10 10 10 6 6 T 12 12 11 9—93 



G.Warren 11 6 10 6 10 2 8 s 12 7— SI 



M.Henty o lo 9 10 « 8 sf « 10-T8 



King 'Jarget (Off-bana). 



E.Bennett , r, ,s (\ r 12 2 11 8 T 8—74 



.7. Slchols 7 10 U 8 4 8 9 5 T 1— 66 



0. F. Good 11 3 10 3 5 3 10 1 5 S- .59 



F. Dwigbt 7 07670454 li-iS 



G.Warren , 8 124474 3 5 9—12 



A.i.Bmt 5 7 2 11 6 1 6 2 2 0-42 



Massachusetts Tiu-get (Rest). 



W.R. Schaeter lo il 12 12 12 12 9 13 9 12-111 



H.Max 10 10 9 11 12 )1 10 11 U 1&-107 



Iv. G. Prentiss 11 10 12 U 13 11 B 10 U— 106 



B. Bennett n 7 11 10 11 12 13 11 10 10—105 



G.Warren 9 7 12 10 11 u 11 10 s lo— 0:1 



Maasaohusetts Target <Off-hand). 



E.Bennett , » 11 ll ll 9 11 7 12 in ft-lui: 



J.>rich01s 8 10 8 9 11 11 10 1" 10 I'-. 



B. C. .Short 8 8 11 12 9 S )H 11 M ' 



O O. Pierce 10 11 S 8 11 II s r; 1 



S. Lewis 12 9 12 6 11 7 ; n 



L. Jones B 10 10 12 S 9 a - : : - 



A. L. Bm-t 2 8 6 7 10 10 S 6 11) 12— 7'J 



L. B. Lawrence ,..6 3 S 10 B 10 8 9 10 8—71 



Amateur Matob. 



H.G.Blxtay 5 BSB466'44 4—16 



B. S. nenrv .....4 466SB4 45 4.^45 



U.JIax 4 B434S445 S-48 



L.JIPratt * 4444SA5 4 4—12 



B. H. Qrar 4 4 4 4 3 4 ! S 5 1-41 



BB.A.<-HMr.N7, Mas:-:. Dm. ]().— ITie German iSrh". ■ 



East Bo.-iton held tlieir sho.jt at theh- range, lii: 

 The day T\-as iatensely cold, :iud the wind strong an , , , n- 



U'ol. The attendance was largo and the shooting ,iapji-„l ior liie 

 day. The Massachnsetts target ^^•a3 in tiee. 3Li-. H. .'^lax suc- 

 ceeded in carrying ofT the honors with IOC, leading all competitors. 

 Mr. CM. Oueth, however, pressed the fonner marksman very 

 hard and made a total of 103. This new club is in a very flora-JBli- 

 ing condition, and large scores are anticipated dm-ing the season. 

 Following are the best scores made : 



H.Max '••-!* W 11 9 11 9 1» S 10 u— 106 



C M. Oueth 12 11 n 10 12 10 10 10 8-103 



,r' \V Thoret (Mllltar.v) 8 9 9 T 12 7 7 8 9 10— SO 



R.i.eumann. o -n o ■- - 



H. Wllfen... 

 J. C. Ban-ett . 

 W. Sclnvariz 



Cbeedmoob.— There will be a grand ChriBtmas rifle match shot 

 at Creedmoor on Saturday, Deo. 18, open to everybody ; 200 yards, 

 Remington military rifles, 5 shots ; entrance tee, 50 cents each 

 entrj-, if made at N. E. A. ofSce, 37 Park Row, before day of match, 

 or $1 for first entry and 50 cents for each duplicate if made on 

 ground. Kntries unlimited. Highest two scores to count. Am- 

 munition fm-nished free ; rifles to loan without charge ; 150 prizes, 

 gold and value, §300. These prizes ^^-iU bo marked from 1 to 150 

 and himg on a huge Christmas ti-ee at Creedmoor, and first man 

 will draw ten numbers from a hat, the numbers of prizes on tree 

 corresponding thereto to bo his property. One hundred men -niU 

 get prizes. A boys' target (for sons or proUiges of competitors) 

 will be oiien for an hour at 50 yards, 5 shots with a .22-cal. rifle, 

 and the six boys rnakmg highest scores will get the six. prizes re- 

 maining alter the men have drawn 144 of them. Fare, round trip, 

 to everybody, 30o. Spooial trains, etc. Match >vill be shot regard- 

 less of weather. 



Kidney and Tniai-y complaints of all kinds pormanunXly cured 

 with Hop Bitters. 



ffaclitmg mid ^anaeing, 



SINGLE-HANDED CBTJISING. 



BY A BINOtE-HANDED CKUTSER. 



FOR many years I have delighted in single-handed cruising, and 

 Have occiipied a month or more of each summer and autumn 

 in floating alone, on river, lake or sea, in either canoe, duck-boat 

 or yacht. When I say alone I do not mean alone in the sense that 

 a large munber of canoeists use the term, who, although they are 

 the solo occupants of their respective craft, generally cruisi! in 

 oonipaiiv together, sleep at night at some hotel ashore, and fondly 

 imagine" that they are enjoying single-handed cniising. The great 

 pleasm-e to be derived from voyaging wholly alone, deremling 

 upon no one but yourself and'yonr craft for all the comforta of 

 life, commtming with no one but natm-e, and taking all sorts of 

 weather as it comes with zest and enjoyment, whether good or bad, 

 is a pleasure unknown to those gentlemen. I met a party of them 

 on a cruise do-rni the St. Lawrence four or five years .igo, and, 

 whilo I gazed in rilr I'.r v-r^iclrv D.t their fancy yachting shirts, sailor 

 caps, knee brfc-'Vj ■ iiofle, canvas shoes and lisghly-^ar- 



uisbed boats -1 • nted names, I did net in the least 



envy them when ;: ,-!!.]t:_ ,!^:iji'iily came and T .-rnv i'l'-iij rcinl in 

 dismay tor the nearest tarmhonse, their 'hl ' ''■■''■< 



wet, while I rechned comfortably in np. ■ 

 beating in vain against my tight water m 

 coiTee pet singing jovfullv on the alcohoJir ..: - 



■. • "■""■-!. ...T":,,.^ i-in uf liny distance \v:is iuin- -1 ;i tiat- 



:, : I ' ' r' ; traversed one uf our inland rivers 



' VI 1 read .AIcGregnr's iirst "Rob 



Cut the confined 1 ' 1 1 , v 



not suited for a j. .1. 



of the double p' 

 -■Tieriments with 111. j"i .1 



v:;T-iou,, ..Li-mi'^- l.roiL-vike a practical liow-hiriiii: ;• 

 a descripiio;i > e" Mr. Lviuau's gear in Fuckst a>: o 

 eve, undiii thisiirningement J found just what 1 I 



built a boat siuted for this year Bvinie'.That after ( r .mi 



Nautilus cauoe, but with a Salter biii^tom iLmidsJln;.-;, ;. iriue less 

 sheer and a larger well, so that my feet could 1« out iu the air in- 

 stead of bilking under the deck on a hot day. It «as ileckcd over 

 from bow to stem, but bad a light nuodcu hatch, which, wlieu re- 

 moved and placed on the deck, left a well large enough for myself 

 and dog. .A. bamboo mast and a Bfirit sail was used wheiiever 

 Ibero was a breeze, and the Gypsy proved to be an excellent 

 sailer, as bv fixing one of Hie oars at a proper position m the 

 water I coiild eat to windward lil'.e a steamship, the oar acting as a 

 l.-.e-board T bad ah-tigbt compartments in IjoUi bow and sLeni, 

 iriKl tLo open well was separated from the remaiiid-r of tlic- boat 



Ijv water-tight bulkheads, provided with . .,1.1,, . r, ,.,,,,, ! „ 



tliat when the hatch was palled o\ er tb-" ■ ■ 



atone enJ at the proper angle by iiprm : 



butconcd dov.ri, 1 conUl sit in thiilittli' . : .- 



tight tl-i - ■ '.- _■' ■■ ■ ;', ■ 'i -leuni 



Pistol Match. 



T? P fieherfer , 39 C. Wayen 31 



^.''H.^Kimham f g' Sr "■ 2I 



F. Clotid.... 85 1.1.1 son. -- 27 



At the Mammoth Gallery the any rifle match, which began Deo. 

 1 has shown, for so early in the month, fine shooting. Milton W. 

 Fari-ow aud .1. H. Brown, of the. Empire Rifle Club of New York, 

 visited the gallery during the week and proved thomselves capital 

 gallery shots. Mr. H. A. Buck, the rifle manufacturer of Stafford, 

 Oomi.'. has also shown good work at this place and capital holding. 

 Mr. J. H. Brown is m the leading position with 187, and was nearly 

 sucoeasf nl in getting the extra pi-ize of *50 in gold for a clean score 

 of eight consecutive huUseyos. The subjomed summary wiU show 

 the standing of the several competitors to date, 50 yaj-ds, rounds 

 8, possible 40 ; five scores to win or possible 200 : 



jlH.Brown " "" "' " 



U. A. Pollard 



Frank Hollls 



H. A. Buck 



Milton W. Farrow 



C. H. Bartlett 



N. W. Arnold 



A.S. Rtntibs 



George ii. t'.lson 



D.L.j;e;il 



R. IL ArinsH'Orig 



R. C. SawT-r 



' . O. Goodspeed 



F. J. Snow. 



(i.T. n»n 



B.U.Diiley 



S9-1S7 



37 37 37 37 38— 1S8 



37 37 37 37 38-186 



37 37 37 37 3S—im 



36 37 37 37 37— 1S4 



86 86 37 .37 37-183 



36 .36 fS 37 87-152 



86 36 36 36 87-18! 



36 3fi o« :iO :iS-lBO 



85 St. .V, i,.. .1..— iio 



.......39 K '-ii as bS— 17o- 



.....34 36 SB Sfi 35—174 



4 11 10 5 10 9- S4 



5 7 10 6 7 11— SO 

 7 6 « 8 S 9— -9 



6 11 9 4 9 8-77 

 9 1) - - - 



10 9 



12 6 9 



8 9 11 



8 5 10 



C.Abe -^ 6 9 5 9 1) CSC Ti— -4 



Gabdneb.— -Vf">-s.,JOec. 9.— At the last practice of the Gardner 

 Club on the Hackmatack range there was some good shootmg by 

 the members. There were two scores of ten shots each at 200 .yards 

 off-hand, nsiug the inch i-ing and Creedmoor target combined. The 

 lollowmg score tells the story : 



•ubbe 



..90 46 



93 48 



88 



48 



10 



43 



illl— ■)! 



(6 



46 





45 



101—90 



79 



43 



75 



43 



151— SO 



83 



45 



16 



43 



149— «S 



.66 



43 



70 



44 



136—87 



67 



41 





40 



110—81 



.43 



41 



jl 



42 



102— S3 



Chester Hinds 



P.B. Nichols 



G. F. Fllswortb 



A. ilattliews 



Wm. AiiiUn 



I. N. DoclKP 



F. Knowlton 



,J. B. Newton,- .-■ 



G. C. Goodale ►■■■6i 



C. Merrttt ' ■*» " 



A challenge has been received from a club at Saratoga, N. T., for 

 a match of ten men each. The shootmg to be done at each home 

 ratige. It has been accepted and will take place at an early date, 



Wakefieu), Mass., Dec. 11.— The night shooting of the Wake- 

 field Club continues to be very populaj, and to-night some good 

 scoring was doue, the jlltmiuiated bnllseye being frequently hit. 

 The leaders stood ■- 



Tl flL-llvle ..5 .5 4 4 4 4 5-31 T. Cajin 5 4 4 4 4 4 4-29 



(iriienev"" .4 5 4 4 4 5 4-«0 N. Toung. 4 4 4 8 4 4 4—29 



0.'coreorfiIu!"-.4 .■; 4 4 4 4 5-80 T.Baxter. 45 5 34 4 S— 28 



WoKCEKTEK— -Vn.s.«., Dec. 10.— At the Pine Grove range, Shi-ews- 

 bm-y, yesterday, the momhers had a field dayr The result is told 

 by the followdng score : 



400 YAKKS OFF-HAND. 

 Rtildm.an ClarlC.. .3 3 4 5 5 S 5 .'. 4 5—44 444462445 6— H_S.-) 

 mSc" rtor, . ..5 3 3 S 4 5 4 5 5-.39 4 5 4 2 3 4 4 6 5 4-40 -7'J 

 Dr Arnold .405544444 5-40 3 2 3 5 S 4 3 B .t 4-39-79 



B A Bartlett..".. ..532845543 3-39 402335866 2-32-71 



200 YARDS OFF-HANP. 



S Clark."..' 3 4 4 4 4 5 4 5 6 4-42 4 4 4 3 4 4 6.4 5 4-41-S3 



M firler 5 14544454 .5— 4o 5 4 4544444 3— 43— ss 



Dr ■ArnoM'.::;.'::-* 44354444 <-4« t ^ ■; ^ » 4 4 5 4 4-43-83 



F 'V B'lrLlelr ,1 4 o 4 S 4 -', ., 4 -t-4.^ .'. 4 4 5 4 .-1 4 4 4 4— 11— M 



Tomll^alMCi'uiiclliioyiuds: S Clark, ICS ; M Carrer, 167 ; Dr Arnold, 

 1.55 ; E A Bartlett, 155. 



Zettleb Eifle Club.— Ill the meeting of the Zettler Rifle Club 

 the following offieera were elected : I^-estdent, Daniel Patterson , 

 Vice-President, M. B. Engel ; Hecretary, N. D. Ward ; T-i-easm-er. 

 C. G. Zettler i Shooting Master, B. Zettler. 



md III 



^bicb •:: - ■■.■:■• -, : ■ I ■! -r o: ,,,r' ■; .!. Ovbed ttfts 



canvas bUuis bv hookn to o:M-; humchlr.us, clean 

 about four inches, aud my jiillow was a l0)V uttou;. 

 for a seat during the day. If I wished. ty leaA'fc tl:. 

 I went foraging or hunting ashore 1 coiijd !: 

 lay them in the well, puU over the batch, lock i.. 

 was as safe as in ahouae. This boat, made of gLi 

 painted, then covered with canvas, which was al 

 but §12 ; was built complete iu a tlay niid a hail I 

 has stood the wen r ,;,.-, i .... . , - , it' mUes v 



pair than a coai ' i ■ ■-'. 



Two vearsa,- '' '<" take; 



la,k« Orituj-JM :• • • O'Clj -jv 



mv vessel, although of an appropriate deiith, liafi r-lber an iiiiue- 

 cessary amount of beam. As she left the bnilder'a yard on uho of 

 our uiland lakes, the new Gypsy measured L-s feet .iver all in 

 length, was 7J^ feet in breadth, and had for principal biillust a 

 wToughthiron centreboard weighing about 500 pounds. Her 

 draught, with centi'ebcsard down, was 2 feet 8 inches, aud my little 

 cabin gave me 45 Inches of head room, so that my bead just 

 cleared the Iioarrls v.- I s-t on a low ottoman. She was yawl 

 rit'getl. with i ill I 1 ':aff mainsail and a long dandy! tho 



bowsprit Ijfiin;: , i! The cabhi was separated from the 



coclipit— wLii'Oi ,.- I -L' enough for one man to sit hi— by 



a water-liL;ht l.ulsiit-aii, Kio[jiiiL: upward toward the stern at aii 

 augle, an irraiigemeut wbieii made a verv comfnrtfille r.-rfiuing 

 sent iu the cabin, and which necessitateil entei'mg the sainc by a 

 hatch from above.. --U1 bilge water was led, by the formation of 

 the bottom, io the cockpit, where it could I'e convenieutli- ismioed 

 out The coclqiit and cabin were fitted with lockers on ea<;li side ; 

 a piece of walout bhiged to the ceiiU-eboaid trunk ou cither side 

 foiTued a taljlc, nod ia iljo eal'Oose forward was a larKe-i-ized 

 alcoli,,l laini' ' o, . , o and provided with 



oev-cake, beans, et 

 -: dead-eye. and on 



ivh I 



On the port 

 ? starboard a 



cabin 



, I ^0 1 in the 

 kt cabin, 

 ,t:oued— 

 -iiidr.ak 



alwa;. : 



frame luid „: - 



strong : her 1 1 1 



able, bnt as fro 



two voyages mi' 



changes that could lie a'l', roi'a;;, 



permit I shall next summer disi 



buUt. in which 1 can sail sare . 



Han-c de Grace if desired. 



In the first place she shall he longer, as I Uiiuk tweuly-tw o feet 

 can be handled safer by one man in a "long " sea. than eighteen 

 next she shall bo uairo'wer. VJ-jft. being what I consider an ample 

 beam ; she shall have a keel instead ot a centreboard (I found my 

 iron centre board too heavy to raSse oomfortalily when I wanted to 



