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FOREST AND STREAM. 



[MARCH 4, 



form set ofsniltrg regulations anil system of measurement for 

 time allowance, under which union regattas are to be sailed. 



"ITe do not desire thai the clubs commit themselves now 10 

 ftflopt any particular set of rules, but i hint the proposed Assoeia- 



tio 



should i- 



ull i 



of I 



full advantage of all to adhere to. 

 " Hoping to hear from you as soon as convenient, we remain 

 truly, 



" Frank E.Peabody, Chairman. 



" COOI,IDGE BiESAHU, 



u (iEiuti;E?.RxcE, 

 "Harrys. Mann, 



"Committee of D.Y. C. 



"P. 8.— "Please send answer to B. Barnard, Harrison Byuare, 

 Boston." 



Tilf. FA wmis.— Mr. Bryant, of Boston, has bought the large sloop 

 FamiiiMlatd up in fiowauus Basin), tin lit at Mystic by Richmond 

 in IsTt. She is 78ft. dealt, 86 w. 1., 23ft. 9in. fjeam, 6ft. Oin.hold, 17ft 

 draft with board, 3ft. without. 



Tim Mmriis.— This little sloop has been haulod out, at Piop- 

 gras' yard In O- recti point, and will bo altered into a keel, Boston 

 f ashl on. 



The Cabin Locker.— To remove old paint: Slack three pounds 

 of stone quicklime in water and one poun d American peerl ash, 

 as thick as paint; apply with an old brush and let it remain for 

 twelve or fourteen hours, when the paint will peal off easily. 

 /.;,,, i, ,,;.,!;: Two pounds gum shellac, two'pounds umber, one 

 jfallou linseed oil and one-quarter pound of lampblack; boil to- 

 gether for four hours over a slow fire. Palntinu: A gallon of 

 mixture, or say six pints raw linseed oil, one pint boiled oil, and 

 one pint turpentine ; requires from twelve to fourteen pounds of 

 dry pain t. On woodwork a gallon of paint will cover from 150 to 

 BOO Bquare feet, on iron about 700. Putty: Spanish whiting and 

 linseed oil well beaten and kneaded into a stiff paste. Lacquer 

 for brtmworlt : Ulght ounces of shellac and one gallon of spirits of 

 wine. 



The DiliTETtENCE.— AlittlO so-called nautical journal or thefiy- 

 leaf variety has been making the rounds of our advertisers of 

 late misrepresenting this journal, and spinning correspondingly 

 inflated mendacity in its own behalf. The facts in the case are 

 these: Tho sheet in question has only recently emorged from dis- 

 honorable bankruptcy ; has notes outstanding; [8 shirking its lia- 

 bilities under tho lee of pettieoals ; never had a paying circula- 

 tion, in its most prosperous days, of one thousand, and now has 

 probably much less even than that; its columns are replete with 

 "decoys" and " deadheads ;" it has no influence, and is of odor- 

 ous reputation. The general circulation of Forest and Stream 

 Is thirty times IIS great, and among yachtsmen we have * hundred 

 times as many readers, far the puny 'longshore sheet oannot 

 muster fifty of that class on its books. In spite of this, it adver- 

 tises itself as having the " largest circulation." Business ob- 

 tained by such misrepresentation is equivalent to obtaining 

 money u ndor false pretenses, an d parties who have been swindled 

 byit canreeovcriu the courts. If, with these facts before them, 

 our patrons choose to throw money into the gutter by givingthe 

 petty sheet alluded to then-Support, it is none of our concern, 

 but we propose to see that they do so with their eyes open. A 

 comparison of our columns with those of the fraudulontpre- 



hls clutch, 

 ms in other channels ; its 

 ititude, and its unscrupu- 

 i columns for the benefit 

 be had on application, 

 an writes as follows con- 

 tent :— "Allow me to con- 

 m measurement. It goes 

 serve to clear away much 

 vented a proper understanding of 



rticle t 



lender will save our advertise 

 The 'longshore sheet must seel 

 character is too Well known i 

 lousmendaciiy will be expose. 

 of the public. Further partici 



Measurement. -An Eastern 

 oerning our recent article on r 

 gratulate you upon your last 

 right, to the point. It is timely 

 of the ignorance, which has prt 



Ihe subject heretofore. It establishes a foundation and gives us 

 an authority upon which we can proceed in our future considera- 

 tion of the subject." Owing to press on our columns further 

 material on this head has been postponed. 



MEAsmtEMLNT in France.— It, is to the credit of our French 

 .'at. they are restive under tho infliction of the old 

 Thames rule and that they refuse to accept it in good grace any 

 longer. The Yacht Club de France has taken the bull by the 

 horns, and others arc proposing a congress to settle the vexed 

 question. We commend to their consideration the live axioms 

 drawn up in an article in our last issue. 



The Best MuDtuit— There is no advertising medium equal to 

 Forest amp STBBAM for bringing to public notice yachts for sale 

 or wanted to purchase. Its circulation among the yachting public 

 Is larger than that of any journal, whether daily, weekly or 

 monthly. It covers the whole country. Not long ago a schooner 

 advertised a single time in these columns brought a purchaser in- 

 side of a week, and a recent card of the same natu re has resulted 

 iu numerous answers to its first insertion. Parties intending 

 to offer yacht property cannotdo better than avail themselves of 

 our circulation. 



What the Pti mac Thinks.— A letter from tho East says:— 

 "We heartily indorso your viows as expressed in your journal, 

 which the yachtsmen of our club here thoroughly appreciate." 



Yacht Fun ,s,m,e.— A tine little 5-ton cruiser, ready to go into 

 commission, is offered at a great bargain. See our "for sale" 

 columns, 



EXPERIENCE WILL TELL. 



Muskegon, Mich , Fd>. KW. 

 Editor Forc--;l (iu(j Stream:— 

 The statement made by Mr. Thomas Clapham in your issue of 



; , i.i -... thai it would require "from four to six men to 



handle a Fort: - BirJ tor, if any speed was expected from her," 



is bo much a: variance with my own experience that I cannot let 



1 pass dm i all a »ei Either ilsc i not rigged like mine or 



Ids men most bo very slow. I have a cot '.-r- .--;.;, d yaoht 

 315x9 3-12x3 feet, and with the assistance of one good man I can 

 handle her in ordinary weather, and with two men besides my- 



.rldngs of the I wo rigs in all kinds of weather. It is needless 



add that they are decidedly in favor of the cutter. 



have During the p. en ---ix years owned eats, sloops ai .. ■■ ■ 



i i, y experience is that a cutter can be handled safer, 



Her and drier in heavy weather than cau any other small yacht. 

 L, W. Warnku. 



" CORINTHIAN "■'AND HIS CRITICS. 



Editor Ebrett aftd Stream :— 

 Itseeits that lily last communication, instead of being simply, 

 ? intended, an answer to the criticisms of your correspondents 

 Bougie Croix " aud " Martin Gale," in reference to practical ex 



pericnee in yacht or naval design, and correcting some mistakes 

 made by them in their communications, especially regarding the 

 nanship of the former, which remarks unfortunately wore 

 itted by you from my communication, has raised a hornet's 

 nest, about my ears, or rather is deemed worthy of an editorial 

 a formal answer from the devoted (but not Devoted) yachts- 

 i. Mr, Robert Center, who, in doing so, seeks " to kill two birds 

 i one stone." While acknowledging myself a Corinthian, who. 

 perhaps, is more ready with the pen than with the tiller, i ha 1 

 still some smattering of the subject, treated of, principally ob- 

 tained from a study of well-known authors, and observation of 

 tho performance of our own yachts for a series of years. 



r. Center instances the well-known America, designed by Mr. 

 Steers, and speaks of the compliment paid her designer by Mar- 

 in his book. He truly says, " that her centers were adjusted 

 1 considerable skill und judgment." This simple aeioc, I. : , 

 ment to a practical man was not only forced from Marrctt. bill 

 from all England by her performances: and they further paid 

 a greater compliment, by immediately lengthening forward 

 all the yachts in England. 



Hegarding his ohallenge to sail Volants against Mr. Clapbam's 

 sharpie, ray mention of it at all was simply to correct a mistake 

 eference to said challenge by j'our correspondent, " Rouge 

 Croix." I take Mr. Clapbam's acceptance in good faith; and no 

 doubt Mr. Center could be accommodated and fairly met, e\ en it 

 he objects to going single-handed around Long Island in the 

 %'olaide. As to injury to the business of Mr. Clapham by tho said 

 race, I have no doubt that it would greatly benefit it. 



im pleased that Mr. Center gives " Bob " Fish credit for good 

 things. I remain with the impression that he did produce two 

 nuts, the TYliitcaip and tho old Piston, which were not, to he 

 cracked by the Dream Of the Vindcx. Regarding i lie liO% does he 

 remember the club race, when tho VUuXex-, that famed heavy 

 weather yacht, was in distress, even in the Narrows, water knee- 

 deep on deck, masthead and topmast gone, while every other ves- 

 sel in the fleet was carrying topsails ? 



As to vindicating the speed of Vindcx, iu comparison with 

 jErby'S Arrto), I ask him to read the record of Vindcx: it will do 

 him good. He instances the Vindcx winning two races; also 

 the Volatile "hands dowu." Now, I must confess, I do not under- 

 stand the term "hands down," as applied to yachting; and, while 

 acknowledging my ignorance in that particular, can only imagine 

 it applies to some Corinthian Regatta, or in a crowd of would-be- 

 experts who are being initiated into the mysteries of yachting, or 

 to regattas without an antagonist worthy of tho name, somen hat 

 tief* late victory. 

 As to your editorial comments, friend Editor, upon the value of 

 naval design, you seem to intimate that I hold science in disdain, 

 whereas I have the profoundest respect for science. Science 

 utilizes electricity, but all theories as to electricity are but as- 

 sumed ; and so I hope I may regard somewhat, in the same man- 

 ner naval design, its theories, especially regarding speed, being 

 assumed. 



As t« such triumphs of science, you instance a Papoffl I 01 

 Devastation monitor. Without entering the profound, mysteries, 

 let us take some EnffDah authority on the subject Sil CI 



i iron-clad friga 

 ich disasters so 



ad lad: 



the t l- i 



Iu the 



istiv 



;r, the 



that the 



iralty which followed tho first disast. 

 iflc principles were strictly followed 

 roper and necessary precautions were ob- 

 Isasfer was simply a visitation of Provi- 

 nacoountable." So, perhaps, with the un- 

 fortunate Mohawk, so often quoted by you. Her Captain, per- 

 haps, was a Corinthian iu matters which required exp.ri i i 

 (uctgmerj . 



Now, as to the quota! ion from tho great masters, in whom un- 

 known senilis oflon succeeds where science and education fall. 

 Have you ever observed one of our yessels-of-war '.' Dq not look 

 ird, but ask from the 

 'ormaneeai The 



them casually as t,h 



■ylie 



n the J 



liccrs and tars who n 



an the 



mof tl 



111 tell you that they 



d'ten 



roll the. 



le sea can be seen fro 



m the 



ower h 



The 



Ith 



en exhausted, 

 -i, designed by 



old 



opposition to this 

 practical man of ge 

 tion of would-be-scientists, and, although ueknowkd n i... 



English to be the fines! and speediest v.ssel-ot-ivai i er con- 

 structed, flnaUy tinkered and destroyed by those who in doing so 

 acknowledged their incompetence. 



And now as to our own vaunted scientific yachts. I will not 

 give you the vain task of pointing to one instance, where a so- 

 called scientific vessel has been produced and developed speed 

 without some or other modification of rig or otherwise. In a 

 contemporary I was amused in reading the record of one of our 

 scientifically-rigged yachts. After specifying her alterations, 



large ecu tor-board schooners. The records prove thai I 



sel cannot be handicapped under this measurement bya slow one. 



In continuation, ne instances the Bcaimt 1 V ■"■'■'.. ' 



mates thai lletiina won Id. ■,-, el ,• n, !■:■■.,• better "all 



round qualities." Alas! the present roi/.m has "all round qual- 



:. vanhaka, and probably the coming 



measure] autoftheKei '-'." i. To exemplify the rWi 

 of this measurement he instances s race >f s h <• 



in which Sc/icmcr dele ed tl Idnte. In other words the liille 



Schemer, carrying four tons of ballast, defeated a powerful yes- 

 i leu tensor lead, after being heavily handicapped by 



troves that the Vnlnnle must be remarkably slow, aud 

 that It is difficult even for '• CorimV in 5" to liai Heap a apoetly 

 vessel, even when partieiKs,; - b doing. 



Regarding Viren and Caminy, \it>. proves that the well-known 

 i Mine can be defeated by a handicap of time to aslow 

 one by this proposed measurement. In fact, to myself, not par- 

 ticularly interested in measurement, his labored argument simply 

 results in attempting to reduce by time speedy vessels to a level 

 wiih slow ones, the same problem which our But li 'i 1 1 ' ■, ■'■■ Inn ' 

 been at for many years, upon whose ear. 



be produced which has but one measurement, consequently 

 would beallowedso much time iu a caa Kifti here could bo but 

 one result. 



Perhaps, Anally, it may be an advantage, sines having tried the 

 known, and failed to produce Other than "all round qua 

 the unknown future, W< maj ':..• nop Successful in producing 

 something Which may challenge the admiration Of the yachting 

 world bj defes Ingotir n ■ ipi vessels by handicap of meag- 



..'■ pi ■ [ cutters, 'he V- I i ... i ,. i „■•.,. ■ 



BegrB - : bCIub. If the Commodore in- 



tends m com ,,, . orb - fchi ■ lias of that squadron, I advise 

 him always t,, start the day before. Ipon this subject I will only 

 mention a remark bya celebrated English yacht designer upon 

 viewing one of our cutters. His advise was to "loci, the designer 

 up : perhaps he may design another." lYiki.nttiian. 



Fro, iZUl. 



Hffovwis (ga/ww?. 



THE PENNSYLVANIA PLAN. 



Pennsylvania. February, 

 Editor Forest and 8trear< 



.1 peruse tho Foeekt and Stbeaj,i caoh week p 

 est, and think the editor deserves nil the praise ^ve can 

 give liim, in publishing a man's paper of samuch inter- 

 est io women and children. Our boys love til I ai 

 and fiah stories very much ; and of con rae fclioy a* -in 

 to take Forest akd Stream when they get to be mon. 



iMy experience as a sportsman's uil'o would le Very 

 pleasant if it were not for I he dogs, but alas I tin 

 ttful pointers and setters have no charms for me. If ilw 

 setters would only set atill and the pointers keep their 

 heads pointer] toward the barn, instead of poi 

 in the back door whenever it is left open, I could endure 



it ; (in fact I have, to say, may). In the fall one very busy 



day 1 



day t 1 

 las'th 



' I : 



point. 



s helriin, : 



ide 



l few feet fr< 



I- lie 



sprit 



the cu 



;, and c 



,, , , :.,i,;,r. ; he continues and informs the reader thai, her 



speedbeing remarkably free, she needs but a fewadditional cloths 

 to her mainsail to be one of tho fastest vessels to windward— she 

 being at present, as is well-known, notably deficient in that, re- 

 speot. 



In reading- the article upon yacht measurement by Mr. A. Cury 



Smith,! would respectfully beg leave to call his attention Io some 



Eehhave probably escaped his notice ,- sei a througl 



other glasses. In his objeeaon to length as a measurement he 



do 



ath3 



,..] i. 



aud staysail— her skipper expecting a severe squall, which, how- 

 , , , ,, i aiieafl of the yucht— reefs shaken out, and all the 



first-mentioned cloth spread, while the yacht continued on 

 her course, and the entire 1 ime occupied for both operations was 

 not quite ten minutes, aud tho work was clone by two boys, both 

 under eighteen years of ag-e. These same boys with two others 

 . four weeks' cruise last season, risiting Mackinaw and 

 a tl i. ui Oj l,:ike Michigan, crossed to Green 



ortl tlmothe iver to pombany with a crack sloop from the 

 west shore, and had plenty of opportuuinea Of comparing the 



and its tendency to produce wide, he 1 1 n> '-spa -.- 



gives us a fearful picture of the behavior of over-sparn 



for the gentleman « ho sparred Vindc i , Madcap, /»' j ■ , ■ ■ ' , JWoi 



II'ui-c and the new Mischief, remarkably cool, to say the li I 



Is length not the principal element of speed ! In i I ; ' 



cubical contents as a measurement) he compares the schooner 



Would it not be hi 

 compare IntTi pld with Rambler, one of her class? He certainly 

 nana , ',,,,, , i want of freeboard or depth r/r speed 



mpariaon. 



As to his ob.eetlon to freeboard being ta.ved, wiiucbS I he pei - 



feraianoes of Fainw, the bulkiest as well aa the fastest of ou^ 



-jr — — - '- '■ '.> wiaqj 



dinner, and as it was 

 , oe only one loaf of l.uv. u 

 ton the slielf, when the next thing 

 . qui "Flora." She had 

 •as feti-icvm ■ rithi i fastaspos- 

 l hour In dinner. Unagine, if y,iu 

 hilin.e, I must have looked, and withwhal to lod 



e.i:n-o I [.Fi'i'tH'ril more ; and as 1 to] I Oil and Oi my 



grievance he only sli-ol;ed the head of the beautiful ani- 

 mal and said : "Mistress Ought to have beenm 

 I Uio door open, hadn't 

 Unlike t ilL ' most of you girls, 1 am gun-shy. though I 

 rode several miles the other day With the gun in our cut- 

 ter. I really hope to be brave enough Id try my hand 

 at shooting some day, but should prefer glass balls to 

 birds. I really enjoy seeing my husband shoot gli 

 I think he is a capital shot, and have often u 

 Mm to challenge Bogavdus, which I presume he will UO 

 some day. 1 have never accompanied my husband on his 

 hunting trips, but expect to do si faU n nothing 



happens. My husbaml is 



J ride with him a great deal and enjoy tliewild and pic- 



: i ■. no o old Pennsylvania verj h;in facJt, 



our lr.es are ;d id u ■ ■■ ',, .. i . audit' wives only 



seek happiness they will hnd it, ii, Lheir husl 

 .sportsmen ; and I try to put up with all f In u 

 ties ; but deliver me from such a trial as Zelia had, keep- 

 ,i under the bed nights. Paulina. 



Boxjnd OS the Duck Qdsshow,— The Nortiisast (MtJO 



Record t-omiilaiiis, in a recent issue, that Haiyli tl 

 shooting is being ruined by the hicurrdon of "an army of 

 sports from all the ends of the earth who come down here 

 and bang away like mad, spoiling the sport as well as the 

 profit-that rightly belongs to the citizens of the State,'' 

 and the writer calls for a law which BhaU limh ducking 



to citizens of the State. l\ i ai isumethat 



this i o:-i I ii" hi - -i 1 1 -i I e i td I i pi I',.'- ',,- orof siona) 

 duckhunters thi Daselves, for no one knovi , better than 

 they do that the greatest income from the ducking 

 .--. from these so-termed ''sports" from all 

 e aids of the earth, for, as the Eavr£ 

 tinently observes, the sportsman from abroad cannot go 

 down -there ■ unless they char- 



rone of tht regularly licensed craft oi thosi 



own theif own craft, which are governed by tl 



laws that regulate those of citizens. Tl litor iddi 



"Mr, Jos. B.oley (of the well-known firm of : 

 1 , ,1,,., ,,h ,,i ,-, e mention by way of illustration, assert,-, 

 that every pair of duck-, he tills OT) OUT fiats COsts him at 

 -i ! i i - the jhtthathe was doing the slight- 

 est possible injury to ft single person in Havre 

 ho would never siioot another duck in our waters. This, 

 we bodievc. ifl the ha rns nearly all who 



visit, our waters for the purpose Of sli U 



sionally. In our judgment the gunners of B 

 Graee should be united in sou:.. fcion. We 



have laws and le .. -;h on the subject— iu 



tact, have too much, The laws "as now on thi 

 I i u precisely the shape our go 

 ,, and if its provisions were faithfully carried 

 out there would, no doubt, be wore ducks killed and 

 less grumbling," 



