April 29, 1880.] 



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ocean itself, to the wonderful iron pier. 1,100 feet ia lengl li. The 



tare is merely nominal. Tlio time of the trip is about forty-live 

 minutes, ami hundreds at Mains rim each Way dally, carrying 

 thousands of passengers. There are many large hotels and res- 

 taurants, noticeably the .Manhattan, Brighton, Sea Beach, 

 Palace and Cable's, capable of dining- at one I one thousands each, 



which refreshments or all kinds ran bi PTOOO A '■ small ex- 

 pense- ThatoWer, 300 feet in height, commanding « riov < I sen 



aud land for thirty miles; minor attractions cf every description, 

 and unciiualed facilities for cither surf and still bathing, exist- 

 At Manhattan, Brighton, Cable's, the Iron Pier aud several 

 other places, are (riven open air free concerts every afternoon 

 and evening by the largest, andbestappointcd bludsin this coun- 

 try, Including the Gilmore, Dodworth, Downing, Phi I harmonic 

 Orchestra and others, and such solo eornetistsas Levy, Arbuekle, 

 Salcedo and Libcrati. Means of conveyance by hacks and by 

 railroads along tho ocean in every direction are provided at Ave 

 coins per trip. The city of New York contains hotels of every 

 description, from palaces to those upon tho European plan, at 

 which good rooms, v. fthout bOB rd, an be obtained at prices as 

 low as fifty cents per day. No city ran show such elegant cheap 

 dining-rooms, at manyof which a satisfactory meal can be had for 

 a quarter of a dollar, and oven less. Objects of interest iu the city 

 and in Brooklyn, including the Navy Yard, publlobuUdicgS, I hea- 

 lers and a variety of amusements e-vist to gratify any taste. 

 Add to this the races heldat least three times a week at Brighton 

 and at Jerome Parle, and commencing this year at the new trac* 

 of the Jockey Club, near Coney Island, where will be the great- 

 est running races of the country. 



Tni'nl. Prizes. The bulk of the prizes alivays has come from 

 this section of the State. At least one-half of the wealth is here. 

 Merc is the headquarters of most of the manufacturers, import- 

 ers and dealers in sporting goods of every description. Our mer- 

 chants are public-spirited. Wo can promise prizes greater in 

 number and far more valuable than have ever been offered any- 

 where. Besides the dealers, wo hav.3 reason to believe that our 

 Coney Island hotels and the various lines of travel will contribute 

 liberally. 



lAmrlh. dmWnUnoe of aeews at reasonable fare. Every main 

 line of travel converges into New York City. Through fast trains 

 run daily each way on both the New York Central and Eric roads, 

 with every accommodation. It is easy toreach New York from 

 any section. Delays and annoyances are generally encountered 

 upon the branches which feed these main trunks. Commutation 

 to and from New Y'ork City can be readily obtained on the main 

 lines. 



Fifth. Tl<i3 sectiuti of the State is entitled to consideration. 

 During the past sixteen years it has been ignored, and a circuit 

 has been obtained in the northwestern, western and central parts 

 of the State: Niagara Falls was favored in 1865, Buffalo iu 1868 

 and 1878, Palmyra in 18110, Le Hoy in 1867, Syracuse in 1809 and 1877, 

 Rochester in 1870 and 1879, Utiea in 1871, Seneca Falls in 187;! and 

 1880, Batavia in 1873, Oswego in 1874, Watertown in 1875, Geneseo 

 in 1870. 



Geographically tho Convention has confined itself to the follow- 

 ing counties grOhped as adjoining each other : Niagara, Erie and 

 Genesee; Wayne, Monroe and Livingston; Onondaga, Oswego, 

 Jefferson and Oneida. 



Why should it not come east and south of Utlca ? In a State of 

 siii y counties, ten have monopolized it for sixteen years. Ought 

 not "same of the other fifty counties to receive attention? 



I he ten favored counties, by the last eensus,eontaiucd about 750,- 



000 people, while New York City and Long Island contained twice 

 that number, which, according to the best estimates, has increased 

 to about two and one-quarter rnilbona. Ought not this section, 

 with this vast population of about one-half of the whole State, to 

 be selected as worthy of the honor of entertaining the Associa- 

 tion ? 



SUih. It V'tmld promote tke interest of the Stale Association. 

 Article I. of its constitution declares its purpose to be ".securing 

 proper legislation for the protection of birds, fish and animals ;'' 

 also •' the promotion of kindly intercourse and generous emu- 

 lation among sportsmen." Cannot our two and a quarter million 

 people render assistance? Those who have visited us can say 

 whether the intercourse has been kindly. Ought itnot to be ex- 

 . tended? 



The feeling here is ripe to mako the visit of 1881 (if we 

 receive tho Convention) memorable to all who ^participate. We 

 believe that if this sentiment be encouraged by naming Long 



1 Bland as the. locality for next year, an enthusiasm will be aroused 

 that will add to the. Association many clubs, prepared to follow 

 the subsequent conventions to all parts of the State. Wo do not 

 seek, and will not ask, a renewal of this visit probably for many 

 years. 



Last year the State of New Jersey held its first convention and 

 tournament al a point within our easy access. It received large 

 support from us, and its success assured its continuance. On the 

 other hand, the places uniformly selected by our State Associa- 

 tion have been so remote as to discourage us. 



Wo desire to ascertain the real preferences of the various clubs. 

 We propose to give them a cordial reception, and promise to try 

 'to do the honors of hosts to the best of our ability. But we are 

 equally desirous that we should welcome them willing guests, who 

 share our hospitality in tho same spirit in which it is proffered. 

 llltl, CltOOK, 



Secretary Long Island Sportsmen's Association. 



ANOTHER OPINION ON TRAP-SHOOTING. 



Editor Forest and Stream :—. 



In your issue of April 22d appeared an article headed "An 

 Opinion on Trap-shooting," which I hope will bring out some 

 able replies. 



To my way of thinking, the arguments of H. W. DeL., that 

 pigeon shooting is ^unbecoming the dignity of a gentleman, 

 that it is not a creditable performance, or that it depletes the 

 number of wild birds, are not sufficient It. is a question whether 

 we should confine all our actions to those which enhance our dig- 

 nity ; the standard in time would become too high, and as to its 

 being a creditable performance, that would depend, of course, 

 entirely on the conditions. It is hardly creditable in him, after 

 promising to canvass both sides earefull.v, to contrast a pigeon- 

 shooter killing ten tailless, hall' starved birds at twenty-One 

 yards, with a dnck-giin, with one of the most dilb'cnN 

 met with in the field, if in- had • i ■- u - , i whether it ..-, . . i. u 

 for-a man to stand at thirty yacUftom five traps, n tl 

 loaded with iltdre. powder, i t oz. photj and kill a rattling' driver, 



with perhaps an audience ul two M throe Uundrc pi 



would he more lit keeping with his description Of a cock grouse 

 hunting through the thicket. His fear that trap shoot dig will de- 

 plete tho number of wild birds is also, lihink, Willi"! a 



tion, beoause the opportunity to catch them ia limited to two 



months of the year, and they are too delicate to stand much 

 transportation .Or handling. Without doubt they aye, caught in 

 great numbers for the- market, but the proportion that run the 

 gauntlet of the traps is small, as 00 per cent, of birds killed iu 

 pigeon shooting are domestic. I hold that the question of trap- 

 shooting is not a subject for discussion, except as we disco?-, 

 other phases cri Held sports for the entertainment to be derived 

 therefrom, and not as to whether it should exist or not. 



If it is proper for us to shoot game or catch fish for excitement 

 or pleasure. It is proper for us to shoot pigeons from a trap for 



u oason, and if you do away with one you should with 



the other. 



The principal argument against pigeon shooting Is its cruelty, 

 but how much better off is field shooting ? It everv bird wounded 

 in the field and left to die was witnessed by hundreds and duly 

 recorded in the papers, how long would it be before it would be 

 decried and an effort made to suppress it? For the number of 

 wounded birds in tho field that escape far exceed that of pigeons, 

 because the opportunity to hide is not so great, and the ubiqui- 

 tous outsider soon settles the fate of a wounded bird. 



No one disputes the fact that it would bo better if no life were 

 sacrificed for pleasure, and it would be a sweet comment on our 

 human nature if it were so ; but the fact remains, that an inherent, 

 love of the chase has existed from all time in the breast of man, 

 will always exist, and hence is an element of sufficient positive- 

 ness to demand recognition in all discussions of I his kind. It is a 

 hing that cannot be put aside by an act of Legislature, and if it 

 crops out In certain localities with a desire to shoot pigeons from 

 a trap, it. should be permitted and respected, if we permit men in 

 other localities, who have the opportunity, to shoot game for 

 pleasure. 



If we all lived in a game region, and could keep the wire edge 

 of our inherited desire worn smooth, there would be no excuse 

 for trap-shooting ; but men of the city, who at best can get but a 

 few days of the year in the field, are forced to go to tho traps to still 

 that intense longing, which comes over us at times, to handle a 

 gun and feel the play of the triggers. Of course I do not com- 

 pare pigeon shooting with field shooting, except as to the result. . 

 in both cases birds are killed. All the glory of nature which sur- 

 rounds Held shooting, and which gives to it all its poetry, is want- 

 ing in pigeon shooting. It is only when at that moment we move 

 up to the dogs, and our know ledge of surroundings becomes 

 blurred and indistinct with the intent.ness with which we watch 

 for the springing of the game, that the two approach each other, 

 otherwise there is no comparison. 



H. W. DeL. remarks that the glass ball completely takes the 

 place of pigeon shooting. Ho might with equal good graeo say it- 

 took the part of field shooting. Glass ball shooting is like a prob- 

 lem, when you have mastered It you are done with it. 



Knowles. 



Providence, B. 1., March 21th.— Editor Forest and Stream :— Tout- 

 telegram of Feb. 28th, asking about the pigeon shooting law in 

 this State, has just come to hand on my return from Florida. It: 

 is a trifle late to answer it, and of course you know all about it 

 now. " 'Tis true, 'tis pity, and pity 'tis, 'tis true." 



I am sorry I was away, for perhaps something could have been 

 done to st op it among our " conscript fathers." I am only sorry 

 on account of the gun club at Newport, and I fancy that another 

 year may work a change. 



This sort of business has gone too far, and tho society with 

 the long name will lose more than they will gain in the long run 

 by such action. We shall see. As I said, I have only just re- 

 turned from Florida. I started from Key West, and worked my 

 way in a small boat from that point to Tampa Bay, apart of the 

 country nono of your correspondents seem to hare looked into 

 much, and that was why I went the route. N. D. 



Piokok Trap Shooting.— Columbia, Ohio, April Sith— Editor 

 Forest and Stream:— I do not think the ably written article of "H. 

 W. De. L.," In your number of the 23d inst., on " Trap Shooting," 

 requires anyone to oome to his rescue, as he has expressed in clear 

 aud concise terms my idea in what I consideran unsportsmanlike 

 amusement. I merely wish to be recorded as being of the same 

 faith, and am pleased to know the ranks are each year being aug- 

 mented from the better class of sportsmen. 



F itASK N. Beebe. 



SHOOTING MATCHES. 



Satiel:, April 24.— The Natick spoilsmen, met at their grounds 

 to-day, and in larger numbers than before. Four of Coehituate's 

 marksmen, Bent, Loker, Leach and Cochran, took part with them. 

 There was a large number of spectators present, and the cold east 

 wind was quite disagreeable for all. The following is the score 

 at eighteen yards, with rotary trap, at twenty bnlls :— 



.1. W. Loker - 111111111 1111111110 1— IB 



C. W. Gile 111011111111111011 10-17 



W. W. Clark 11111111110 1110 1110 1-17 



C. W.Hall 011101110111 l 11111 11-17 



(i.O.Wilson 1111111011111110101 1—17 



.I.N.Cochran 10 10 110 1111111111 11-18 



G, A. Leach 00111101011 1 101 111 1 1—15 



.1. Mahard 01101101111110(1 1110 1-14 



Dr. J. II. Wright 1101111100011011100 1—13 



V. Slovens...' 11101101000 10 1010 1—10 



R.Bent.... ... 100110 100101101111 U 1-12 



After the above there was a sweepstakes match, in which eight 

 entered, shuoting at live balls, giving first to C. W. Gile, second to 

 Ralph Bent, and third to J. Mahard. 



Boston, April 23.— There was a large gatheringlof the glass ball 

 devotees at Walnut Hill to-day, to participate in the regular com- 

 petition, which has become so popular under the auspices of the 

 Massachusetts Kitle Association. Frenchy Johnson again came 

 to the front, breaking ten double and nineteen rotary, and Mr. 

 Charles nine double and twenty rotary. Only the best scores ure 

 given, as follows :— 



French v Johnson H 



W. Charles » »u z» - 



T.C. Close 10 17 27 



A. B. boring 9 13 23 



J.Nichols 7 J3 20 



New Youil— .dpri! 26th.— The following is the soore of the 

 Algonquin Gun Club semi-monthly shoot, for a silver cup to be 

 won three times! 20 balls ; 3 traps 10 .vards apart ; 18 yards rise ;— 



tl. J. Sailer lllllllOlllli l i I l i i t— is 



11. Bennett 



.1. Male. .. - 



H. M. Hums 



.las. Hunseit.h... 

 [>. Eek-tein 



110 1111111111111.. 



nil million moil-is 



liioiiiiioiini inn i—i7 



1 1 1 1110 11 1 11 1 1 1 111 17 



111113 i o l l l o n l i 1111 1—17 



11110 111 I I 1 1 1 3 1 1 1 L— 17 

 1 1 I it 1 I 1 1 1 1 I 01 1 1 I 1 I 1—17 

 110 111111111111110 1 0-17 

 001111111111 1 1 II 



tl 1 1 1 l i i ] (I | (i n ;i I 1 l L— 13 

 I I 1 1 1 1 I 1 I 1 10 10 12 



I 1 1 I 1 1 I I it 1 I II 1 1-12 



01 1 ) 1 1 1 1 o 1 I I it ii 1 i 

 1100100111100010110 1 -11 



W. S. McLean I) 1 I 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1-10 



H. M. B. 



H.Cii 



;i ;, April Will— Fourth monthly Medal Match, Central Gun 

 Club; Card trap; Bogardus rules ; teu glass balls :— 



E. Lansing 110 1 111 fl 



I' ""lb 1 11111111 0—9 



C. McDonald 1 11110 110 0-7 



groesbecte 1111111 1-8 



DeGoIier o 1 I 1 1 1 1 1 1—8 



J.Pickering, twenty-l hire yards 1 1 1 1 1 1 i 1 j-g 



Mann 000 100000 0—1 



Kaocock 1 1 1 o 1 i-5 



Harklcy 00001000 0—1 



M. CampheU l 101011111—8 



A. Paul 11 110 11111-9 



P.Troy 1110 1110 1-7 



F. Pickering 1 11110100 0-6 



(XPluckrose 1110 110 11-7 



Manning 1 J 1 1 1 1 1 0-7 



Lewis 10 10-3 



W. Campbell 1 10 111—5 



T.Curley 10 1111110-7 



Wengenworth 01010011 1— 6 



gpwee.,- ... 1 ooooooil 0—3 



Hopper 01101100 1—5 



lies for medal:— 



Tltcoinb 1 1 1—3 



'"- r "' '''- -. 1111 1-5 



Paul.. l 10 1—8 



New Jersey— Port Morris, April 24th.— Glass ball match on the 

 grounds of the Knickerbocker Yacht Club, for the glut club 

 medal; 15 halls; rotary trap ; handicap rise:— 



K. li. Chedry 25 11110 10 1111111 0-12 



il.Dennerhne- 25 1 t 1 1 1 1 I 1 0- II 



C. Baker 25 10 11 10 Q 1110 11- B, 



J. Udey 18 1 1 1 1 I 11 1 I 1 01 '.> 



W.Potter, Jr 25 1 1 t 1 1 1 1 II 1 0- 8 



J. V. Seaman 18 00010000011110 0-5 



Pennsylvania— Bellefonle, Pa., April 22d.— The following is 

 the score of last evening's shooting:— 

 w. H. Wilkinson.... 11 1010101101100 000 — 9 



H. 0. Valentine 11110001011111111)1111 1—14 



S. T. Foster 0011101000 0101 — n 



1'neo. Desohner 101001110101111 —10 



.1. D. G. 



A Philadelphia Match.— Philadelphia, April 2-lHi.— In Issuo 

 of March 4th was published the pigeou shoot that took place here 

 on Feb. 28th between a party of gentlemen (six in number.) at 15 

 single birds each, 20 yards rise, l}oz. shot. In said match Mr. 

 Sharpe and Mr. Levis tied on 15 birds straight. In the shoot-off 

 Mr. Sharpe killed S to Mr. Levis' 7, and won tho match. Mr. 

 Levis not being satisfied, challenged Mr. Sharpe to shoot him a 

 match at 25 birds each, 28 yards rise, 80 yards bounds, Hoz. shot, 

 use of one barrel ouly ; he (Levis) to find birds for both. Mr. 

 Sharpe promptly accepted the challenge, but owing to various 

 causes the shoot did not come off until Sat.11 rday last. They shot 

 for price of birds ami supper for six. The birds were a lively lot, 

 hut only two out of the fifty got oil scot free. Mr. Levis shot a 

 Scott breech-loader, No. 10 ; Mr. Sharpe, a No. 12 muzzle-loader. 

 Score as follows :— 



I. M.Levis 01111 11111111011 111111111 -23 



L. W. Sharpe... 111111111111111111111111 0*— 24 



The friends of each aro now endeavoring to bring about a Ihird 

 match, making the number of birds 50 each, believing that will be 

 the best test to prove which is the best shot. There is every pros, 

 pect of the match being made. They are; a hard pair to beat, 

 either in the field or at tho trap. \V . p. 



Y nusiA..— Portsmouth, April 13th— Regular weekly shoot of 

 the Seaboard Shooting Association at glass balls, from Card's ro 

 tating trap. Prize for marksmanship was finally awarded to Cant. 



I I. L. Grimmer. The prize was a beautiful gold badge, designed by 

 James F. Carr, Esq., of this club, aud consists of an engraved 

 scroll, bearing the word " Champion," beneath which are crossed 

 shotguns. Pendant by chains from the pistol grip of the guns i 

 the badge proper, surmounted by a round scroll, and richly 

 chased, bearing in the; center the figure of a pigeon Hying, inclosed 

 by a wreath, and surmounted by the legend, " The Seaboard 

 Shooting Association of Portsmouth, Va." The following is tho 



n-"""- ... 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 I 1 1 1 1 1-15 



... 1 1 1 I 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1-if, 

 ... 1 11 1 11 1 1 1 1 I 1 1 1-14 

 ... 11011111111 111 I—14 

 ... 1 110 11 1 1 1 1 11 1 li-u 

 ...111110110 11011 1—13 

 ... 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1-13 



WUKlllB. 1010101111 Mil 1—12 



Wall- 110 1 10i;i0 1 1 01 1 1-11 



i'n.'Jiiu 01100110111111 1-11 



TIES. 



Grimmer 11111-1111 1-1 1 1 ] 11 I-15 



Itiddick 11111-11111-10 10 1 1-14 



H. E. W. 



Goxf City Gun Club— jfohile, Ala., April 22<J,— Owing to tho 

 failure of Mr. W. W. Judy, of St. Lours, to fill positive contract 

 made with him Jan. 30th, and not. being notified of his inability to 

 do so until April 20th, and being unable to procure birds elsi 

 where In United States, necessitates the postponement of our 

 tournament until further notice. G . AT. Tctnstall, 



Chairman Executive Committee. 



Cincinnati German Shooting Ci.nn.— Cincinnati, April 20th. 

 —Monthly score for contest of gold medal. The weather wns all 

 that could be desired for a good score at pigeons. There were fif- 

 teen contestants, among them some of tho best crack shots in the 

 city. The pigeons, considering they were tame ones, were pretty 

 spirited and good goers. Tho medal was presented to Mr. J, 

 Moerleln by the former holder, George Keif. Referees : Col. Geo. 

 Twaehtman and Senator Calhoun.of Carthage, 0.,and Judge W.E. 

 Limbig. 21 yards rise ; 80 yards boundary. The following is tlio 



J.Moerlein 1 1111110111 0-10 



L.Fcy... 1 1111*1110 10-9 



■ l-Kn-l.s 1 111*10 1111-!! 



1110 1—7 



J 1-7 



1 0— li 



- 1 11—0 



1 II 1- 8 



" 1 11 I li- 5 



I 11 1 u - g 

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1 1 11 1 a 



00010-1000010—3 



1 1 1 11- § 



10100000000-2 



— ...».o 000000001 00-1 

 After the club shoot, a double bird shoot resulted as follows :- 



Fleisehman 11 10 10— 4 I W. Fey II oil w-_ 3 



Sch rerrer-, 10 00 10-2 Keck W) w - ') 



Kiel *» 1.0 00-1 I 



m i t _ B _ W. E. 



He HuAitn FROM 1?.— Stockholm, N. J., April nth,— 

 Editor Forest and Stream: — Please discontinue my ad- 

 •.[-rtisjenieiit, aslnave nearly all the dugs I can handle, 

 i have had in answer to my advertisement more than 

 one hundred letters, and tin y cover a very large section 

 01 the country. T. E, Smith, 



— They give the Empress of Austria 350.000 florins logo 

 hunting with each year. This provides for special trains, 

 gifts to masters of packs, et? 



Kiddiek... 



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