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and cigars having been lighted we seated ourselves in the 
comfortable observation car at the end of the train pre¬ 
pared to enjoy to the full the beauties of the mountains 
and the pleasures of the ascent. We had hardly left Al¬ 
toona. however, when a dense mist settled down on the 
liillsides and effectually concealed the more distant scen¬ 
ery from view. AS we ascended the fog became heavier 
and heavier, until before long it changed into a pelting 
rain, which fell with a violence rarely witnessed in these 
latitudes. Great damage was done by the storm in the 
section through which we passed. We could see roaring 
torrents tearing their way down the hillsides through 
fields of com which but an hour or two before had been 
dry and parohed. On one hillside near which we passed 
was a small house standing directly in the way of one of 
these furious streams, the water entering by the back 
door and coming out by the front. The Yonghiogheny 
River had overflowed its hanks and then hurst a dam, and 
all sorts of flotsam and jetsam were being hurried down 
its muddy current. A lumber yard seemed to have been 
in its way, and hundreds of bundles of shingles mingled 
with loose boards were dancing unconcernedly along on 
the waves. 
The road from Pittsburg to Chicago was made in good 
time and with groat comfort. At Chicago we took the 
Chicago and Northwestern Road for Omaha. This is not 
only one of the best equipped and most comfortable roads 
in the country, but is also, 1 think, the longest— i. e., 
it operates and controls more .miles of track than any 
other. It is solidly built, equipped throughout with 
steel rails, and amply fulfills the promise implied in its 
motto, which is “Speed, safety and comfort." Its ad¬ 
mirably furnished and served dining cars, on which one 
can secure a most excellent and ample meal for seven¬ 
ty-five cents, are unsurpassed. This road has always 
been a favorite one with us. A pleasant day and night 
on the road brings us to Counoil Bluffs, the terminus of 
the Northwestern road, and now a flourishing city, Here 
we cross the Missouri River, and here for the time I 
must leave you. Yo. 
Laramie, Wyoming. 
ghe gijtc. 
RIFLES FOR LARGE GAME. 
Editor Forest and Stream 
If my letter on the Sporting Rifle had been published 
all at once in the form of an essay, instead of appearing 
at irregular intervals during a period of three or four 
months, there would have been less risk of misapprehen¬ 
sion. and the saving clauses, which I inserted expressly 
to avert such criticisms as I have been subjected to, 
would probably not have been overlooked. 
Your correspondent P. devoted considerable space some 
time since to the exposure of my errors, and finished 
with the assurance that it woidd be difficult to convince 
the hunters of the Rocky Mountains that a 6 lb. rifle of 
40 calibre and a charge of 40 grains of powder was enough 
for their service; and now Mr. Van Dyke is down upon 
me with a similar opinion. 
1 stated distinctly that for large and dangerous game I 
should prefer a larger calibre than 40, and preached a lit¬ 
tle sermon on the stunning effect of a broad striking sur¬ 
face as contrasted with the comparatively “dagger-like 
thrust ” of a small bore bullet. I even limited the locali¬ 
ty in which I conceived such a weapon as I described 
would suffice, by saying that for any game ordinarily 
found east of the Missouri nothing larger was needed. 
This as you perceive would exclude grizzly bears aud buf¬ 
falos, Yet 1 have known both shoulders of a buffalo bull 
to be broken by a hardened bullet shot from a 40 calibre 
rifle with 40 graius of powder, and a friend of min e who 
for years has used the same style of rifle in very rough 
service in South America, told me in reply to my suggest¬ 
ion that a larger calibre would be more efficient, that he 
wanted nothing better. 
The gist of ail 1 had to say biay be comprised in these 
f jw statements:— 
1. A gun which can be relied on for an eight inch bull’s- 
eye at 200 yards is sufficiently accurate for any ordinary 
sporting service, provided—2.—that its penetration at 30 
yards is at least eight inches of pine with a soft bullet— 
that degree of penetration being in itself a proof of such 
velocity as is synonymous with a very flat trajectory. 
3. Both the above conditions are fulfilled in the weapon 
I described, and I know of no other one which in addition 
to these qualities, combines such simplicity of construct¬ 
ion and facility of transportation ami manipulation. 
I have seen no attempt to controvert these positions, 
and the issues that have been raised are on points which 
I expressly disclaimed. H. W. S. Cleveland, 
Tlie protest entered by our esteemed correspondent is 
most just. We wonder at his equanimity under the dis¬ 
advantage of x»osition in which he has been placed, from 
the causes which he names. Nevertheless, our readers 
all profit by the triangular discussion carried on by vet¬ 
eran experts like him and his fellow-disputants.—[E d. F. 
and 8. 
Schuetzen Notes. — The New York City Schuetzen 
Corps, Capt. John F. Gardes, had a fall shooting at West 
Brighton Beach last Thursday, and a better day could not 
have been selected. At 10 o’clock a.’ ll. the steamer 
Sylvan Stream took the party on board and brought them 
down to the hotel, which was gay with flags. After a 
well-served lunch the shooting began. During tlie 
afternoon and evening crowds of friends of the corps 
poured in, and at the time when the distribution of prizes 
took place 6,000 people were present. Mr. Jos. Lurch 
made 51 rings out of a possible 54 and was rewarded with 
$60; J. Dilleuburg, with 48, received $50 
with 45 rings, took $25. 
tice shoot of the It 
Practice s 
New York 
Corps, the 28th inst., at Hartung’s Park—200 yards, 10 
shots to each, ring targets. The meeting was unusually 
well attended, the Arion Sharpshooters also taken part 
in it : — 
First olass—W. P. Grieselberg, 172 rings: Louis Bernrtt, 106 rings. 
Second class—Jae. Saner, 102 rings; II. R. Hoonaolc, 117 rings. 
Third class—Ad. Huepfel, 143 rings; Geo. Keisser, 109 rings. 
Fourth olass-John Koerber, 00 rings; CUs. E. Bunek, 31 rings. 
The corps will have its King and its fall shooting on 
the 11th of September at the above-named place. Next 
year it goes to San Francisco, Cal. 
—The team of the Manhattan Rifle Club, Major George 
Aery commanding, held their second shooting for the 
Ballard Rifle, presented by Messrs. Shoverling, Daly & 
Gales, on the 22d of August, at Schuetzen Park, Union 
Hill. Shooting was excellent, each man having 10 shots 
at ring targets, 200 yards distance: — 
Major Geo. Aery . 23 18 23 17 23 10 19 21 17 17—194 
h. Vogel . 10 19 15 19 15 21 20 19 20 19-183 
C.G.Zettlcr. 24 21 17 17 22 17 17 10 24 21-196 
in. Klein . 23 17 23 22 14 24 2t 18 21 23-205 
m. Hayes. 20 23 20 10 20 18 18 22 24 10—197 
Mr, L, Vogel and Wm. Klein had each won pre¬ 
viously. 
—Mr. J. S. Conlin announces that the fourth annual 
competition for marksmen's badges, commenced Monday 
evening, September 1st. There will be a series of ten 
(10) weekly contests to take place on Monday evenings. 
The competitor making the highest score in each compe¬ 
tition to win a badge, and the competitor who makes 
during the ten (10) contests the highest aggregate score of 
ten targets (70 shots) to win the champion marksman’s 
badge, The matches are open to all comers. Each com¬ 
petitor has the privilege of entering three (8) times; en¬ 
trance fee, 50 cents ; number of shots, 7; rifle, any 22-100 
calibre ; trigger, three (3) pound, pull; position, off-hand : 
target, 300 yards Creedmoor reduced for the range ; rules 
of the N. R". A. to govern except in case of a tie on total 
scores, when the target having the wildest shot will lose. 
All matters not herein provided for to be decided by a 
reference. In case of disputes, each disputant to appoint 
a referee, who will select a third party. Their decision 
to be final. 
—At the first contest for the marksman’s badge at Con- 
lin's Gallery, on Monday evening, last. F. H. Holton 
xvon with a score of 4 5 5 4 5 4 5 — 32 at 300 yards, target 
reduced for range, 
—The Board of Directors of the Sixth Division Rifle As¬ 
sociation decided to have a two days’ shoot on the range 
this fall. Sept. 11th and 12th. This will afford all the 
marksmen in the Division who intend to go to Creedmoor 
opportunity for profitable practice the week proceeding 
the Creednloor meeting. Prizes to the amount of $500 
will be offered besides the medals now in contest. 
—Capt. Mohrmann's Ringgold Horse Guards in Brook¬ 
lyn. shoot for their 32d annual target-hitting and general 
jollification to-day. With plenty of good music the Ger¬ 
man lads are bound to have a good time. 
Massachusetts— Hopkinton, Aug. 25th . — The sports¬ 
men’s club held a glass ball shoot last Saturday at their 
grounds on the Woodville road. Several members of the 
Natick and Westborough clubs were present. Following 
are some of the best scores :— 
c. W. Hall, Natick.41 of a possible 50 
H. Dorchester. Jr., Hopkinton . 43 " “ j0 
O. L. Bl own,Hopkinton.88 " 50 
C. \V. Gill, Natick.34 50 
.1.11. Wright, Natick. -29 50 
W. W. Clark, Natick.32 " 45 
J. Braithwnit, Hopkinton......32 “ 40 
W. G. Stone, Hophinton.28 " 
Fred. Wood, Hopkinton.25 • 3o 
C. E. Bobbins, Hopkinton.16 •» 
G. N. Smalley, Westborough.23 “ 2> 
C. H. Gates, Westborough.21 “ ‘ 2a 
G. B. Clark, Westborough.20 " ‘ 35 
F. W. Forbes, Westborough.19 * “ 2a 
S. O. Staples, Westborough.11 25 
F. 15. Tucker, Hopkinton.10 •• 20 
S. A. Smith, Hopkinton.11 " “ 15 
The Hopkinton Rifle Club held a match at their range 
at Claflin’s grove last Saturday afternoon. The club shot 
for the first time on their 1000 yard range; their previous 
shooting has been at and under 500 yards. The day was 
one that taxed the patience of the marksmen, being at the 
commencement strong, fish-tail, puffy winds from 10 to 
12 o’clock, with considerable mirage. The clouds at one 
time threatened to drive to cover the shooters to avoid the 
coming storm, but later partially clearning away gave a 
better chance at the bull’s eye. The conditions were ten 
rounds at 1000 yards. The best scores are given in the 
following summary;— 
Ur. O.C. White . . 5 3 4 5 3 5 5 3 5 4-42 
C. A. Summer... 5 50544412 2—35 
N. n. Jewell. 3 5 4 5 0 5 4 0 4 »-&> 
Mi. Jewell’s shooting was done with Sharps mid-range 
rifle. 
Boston, Aug. 22th .—At the 18th annual contest for the 
long range badge on the Walnut Hill range Aug. 20th, the 
scores ran very high, the leading 8 securing a total of 1669. 
The wind was from 9 to 10 o’clock, good light and clear 
atmosphere. The record stood : — 
f 
Boston, Aug. Quite a number of r 
ts Rifle Association mi 
, the occasion being the i 
tion in the Spirit of the. Times match. During the early 
Favorable, bat when the riflemen had about half com- 
pleted their scores at the 800-yards range a heavy shower 
commenced, It lasted about half an hour, but did not 
prevent the marksmen completing their scores. Ap¬ 
pended are the five best scores made to-day ;— 
•t. s. SCMNKR. 
.4 5 5 3 5 5 5 5 
.5 5555 4 5654 
.5 4555 5 5545 
W. HOWARD. 
_5 5 5 5 4 5 4 5 4 5 5 5 5 6 5—72) 
.5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 4 5 4 5 5 5—73 >216 
.5 555535 4 555555 5—711 
W. H. JACKSON. 
. 5 5 5 4 5 4 4 5 5 5 5 3 5 5 8—72) 
.4 5554543356455 5-88 V 204 
1,000.5 4 5 5 5 4 4 4 5 5 5 3 6 4 5—03) 
1 , 000 .. 
1 , 000 .. 
. F. BROWN. 
800.. 
! 1 1S!! 111 HI! US 
1=311!)!!!!!!!!! Wt* 
Medford, Aug. 21th .—The Medford Amateur Rifle As¬ 
sociation held its regular meeting at Bellevue range this 
afternoon for renewed competition in the Sharps rifle 
match, there being a fair attendance. The weather con¬ 
ditions were not very favorable. A disagreeable wind 
blew from the northeast, which caused constant regu¬ 
lating of the wind gauge. The conditions were : Dis¬ 
tance, 200 yards: rounds, 10. There were 41 re-entries. 
The following are the best scores: — 
A. B. Archer. 
B. Whittier. 
A. B. Archer . . 
F, Hollis. 
E. Whittier. 
J. Barker. 
K. Abbott.. 
A. G. Greeno. 
; 
Medford, Aug. 22 th .—The usual weekly meeting of the 
Raymond Sportsman's club occurred at Bellevue range 
to-day, there being quite a number of gentlemen 
present. In the glass ball shoot Mr. W. B. Witherell 
was the best man, scoring 29 balls out of a possible 30. 
The following is the result : — 
10 
10 
W. B. Witherell. 
O. F. Belcher. 
I, . E. Johnson.. 
O. Dearborn. 
J. B. Toole. 
D. Kirkwood. 
B. J. Fisk. 
II. S. Harris. 
W. Morris. 
J. 11. Smith. 
A rifle match followed at 200 yards, open to all comers; 
off-hand rifle ; Mr. Kirkwood heads the list with a Bcore 
of 46 out of a possible 50:— 
D. Kirkwood . 
J. S. Bennett . 
J. S. Bennett 
E. Bennett 
H. Si Harris . 
J. R. Howe . 
J. E. Nason. - 
W. B. Witherell..-5 •* 
G. B. Blanchard.. * 3 
The next meeting of this association occurs at Bellevue 
range Friday. 
Walnut Hill, Aug. 30th.—' The attendance of members 
of the Massachusetts Rifle Association and their friends 
to-day, was large and the shooting excellent. The 
weather, too, was of the first order. In the afternoon the 
firing was very brisk, and sounded more like volleys 
from a large force of troops than like marksmen 
practicing at a target. The following are the best 
scores:— 
Silver-w; 
J. O. Mattoon... 
C. U. Meiggs. 
J. Borden.... 
W. Charles... 
H. Tyler... — 
Amateur 
200 yards 
5-351 
5-32 
4-32 
6 3 5-32 
4 4 5-311 
200 yards off-hand ;— 
1 1 1 fflSSfcg 
500 off-hand match :— 
W. Charles.5 4 5 5 5 5 5—34 I B. Edwards.4 4 3 4 6 4 2—26 
E. F.Bichardson.2 2 5 5 4 5 3—20 I J.Nichols.3 2 5 5 2 4 3-24 
New Jebset — Brinton, Aug, 30th — 
military rifles ; thirteenth competition :— 
A. E. Long.. 
H. Fisher.... 
W. A. Bobinf 
P. Bonnett. 
OoL G. E. P. Howard... 
F. H. Hoi ton..... 
Same ; association match No. 2 ; seventh competition 
1 for 
W. H. .T. Jackson. 
J. F. Brown. 
J. S. Summer. 
H. I. Lee. 
Salem Wilder. 
W. Howard. 
N. Washburn. 
W. N. Ward.tn o» in «a> 
Mammoth Rifle Gallery— Boston, Sent. 1st .—The 
regular monthly prize shoot for August at the Mammoth 
Rifle Gallery has ended, very fine work having been done 
therein by local as well as out-of-town riflemen, Mr. E. 
Whittier,’of the Massachusetts Rifle Association, heading 
the list with tliree scores of 39 each, and he takes 
the first prize. The month’s record stands—150 feet; 
rounds, 8 ; possible 40 :— 
E. Whittier. 
E. Whittier, re-entry. 
E. Whittier, re-entry. 
U.A. Polliinl. 
H. A. Pickering. 
W.H. Harrison . 
E. F. Richardson. 
Geo. Estes. 
1). Sturtovailt. 
A. B. Archer. 
M. O. Johnson. 
1). F. Little. 
Geo. M. Smith. 
mnmm 
Wakefield, Aug, 30th .—The Wakefield Amateur Rifle 
Association members closed their August series this after¬ 
noon, the condition being position off-hand; 200 yards; 
possible 105 : — 
W. B, Daniel... 
D. H. Walker.. 
J. Shepard . 
iitUittltlttlt! tttttS 
Fine Mid-Range Wobk— Columbia Range, N. J., Sept. 
1st.—Some extra fine work, at 500 yards, was done to¬ 
day in the Sharps match. The conditions were 500 yards, 
any rifle, 10 shots. On the first round Mr. A. G. Hol¬ 
combe and Dr. S. T, G. Dudley tied on a score of 50 out 
of a possible 50. Mr-. Holcombe and Dr, Dudley went to 
the targets to shoot off the tie, both men again making 
ten consecutive bull's-eyes. A third time these remarka¬ 
ble marksmeu went to the targets and again both made 
the remarkable run of 50 out of a possible 50, Both men 
cleaned their rifleB, and for a fourth time proceeded to 
shoot off the tie, Dudley started off with a bull, Hoi- 
