FOREST AND STREAM. 
short range for any one. We append the scores made in 
the 40 and 50 yards handicaps by the gentlemen, and the 
30 yards, 40 yards, and 20 yards handicaps by the ladies:— 
DADIES' HANDICAPS. 
40 Armies (it 
30 Farris. 
Mrs. Leo. .,.,, . iw 
Mrs. Carter . 83 
Mi’s. halter. ..1H5 
Mrs. Gatub. .... 341 
Mr*. Carver. .. 133 
Miss Street. 339 
Miss Blxliy.237 
Mrs. Pmotnr . 218 
Mrs. Windsor. 151 
Mrs. Church. 101 
40 Arrows at 
30 Yards. 
Miss Orvons. 108 
Miss Parsons.. 138 
Miss Cole. 110 
Mrs. Klein. lie 
Mrs. Ramsay. 170 
■Mrs. Thompson.210 
Mrs. Brown.. 271 
Mrs. Lasher. 15!) 
Mrs. Goodrldgo. 170 
Mrs. Green.. 
. 101 
LA 
HANDICAPS. 
Miss Owens (8 ends) 
Miss Parsons (0 ends). . 
Miss Dennison. 
Miss Cole...... .... 
Mrs. Ramsay.. 
Mrs. Thompson. 
Mrs. Brown. 
Mrs. Lasher . .. 
Mrs. Goodrldge. 
Mrs. Green. . 
Mrs. Carter. . 
Mra. Baker . 
Mrs. Gatch. 
Mrs. Carver. 
-Miss Street . 
Miss llixhy. 
Mrs. Proctor . .. 
Mrs. Windsor. 
Mrs. Clintch 
Mrs. Klein.. 
48 Arrmm 21 An 
at 41) Fris. at 20 1 
Hits. Value-. Wtv. 1 
tlUNTLBMBN'S HANDICAPS. 
30 Arrau* 30 Arrows 
at 40 Fri*. at 50 Fri*. 
Hits. Value. Hits. Value. 
Laniard... 
Ramsay 
Spalding . 
23 
100 
100 
85 
00 
Conklin 
Peddinijlmus. 
Finkhlno 
31. Thompson 
Mistier. 
DeC&afV.... 
Brewer. 
Bammoud . . 
Mears . 
Irving . 
Collins. 
Fullerton. 
Egon. 
8. X.. D. Devol 
Klein. 
Booe, J. A _ 
Warren. 
Manley. 
K. W. Devol.. 
Wilkinson. . 
Smith . 
Jay. 
Atwater. 
Carter . 
Kyle. 
Pattereon. 
Russell. 
Leach . 
Hackney. 
Hussey. 
Gauso. 
Dennison .. . . <w » « 
Horsman. •• •• # j* 
Hoag . 29 100 17 55 
Good ridge. SI 85 23 03 
Meredith. 37 131 2a 97 
Talbot. 31 113 19 71 
Henry . 30 110 28 154 
MoMeehin . » |jM 30 129 
Shepard . J ,JJ 32 ;C 
Procter. 31 151 2-*> 119 
Weston . 37 1J3 25 100 
W. H. Thompson . 30 lb2 30 
T. N. Booe..!. y. . 24 110 21 01 
Havemeyer . 19 83 0 41 
Bhufeldt . 28 141) 21 00 
J. J. Hall . 20 92 20 88 
T. H. Meredith. 32 108 
Arndt . 35 109 21 93 
Bevers . 19 03 13 49 
J. Devol. 28 143 17 05 
Nichols. 27 145 23 107 
Brown . 30 120 20 78 
Phloos 39 125 SO 104 
The winners in the Gentlemen’s Handicaps were as fol¬ 
lows : At 40 yards, lust : Mr. Tac. Hussey, a line self 
snakewood bow; second : Mr. Warren, a fine hacked 
bow; third : Mi - . H. C. Carver, a fine backed bow. At 50 
yards, first: A split bamboo bow, W. B. D. Gray; sec¬ 
ond : Lemomvood bow, Mr. Henry, of Des Moines, Iowa ; 
third: Set of prize arrows, Mr, W. E. Brewer, of Craw- 
fordsviUe, Ind. 
In the Ladies’ Handicaps the winners were as follows : 
80 yards, first: Silver cup, Miss Bixby; second : Card- 
case, Mrs, Proctor; third : Half a dozen fine arrows in 
case, Mrs. Thompson. 
40 yards, first,: Miss Bixby ; second : Fine snakewood 
bow, Mra. Gatch; third: A writing-desk, Miss Brown. 
In tlie 20 yards handicap Miss Bixby won the only 
prize, a tent. 
In the Ladies’ Handicap at 60 yards, the score of which 
we do not give, Miss Bixby won the first, a fine oil paint¬ 
ing ; and Mrs. Lee, second, a fine Spanish self yew bow. 
There were several minor prizes for most golds, most 
reds, etc., wliioh we do not give. 
Ellenvtlle Archery Association. —At a recent meet¬ 
ing of the Archery Association of Ellenvilie, N. Y., the 
following were elected os officers for the ensuing season : 
,—President, A, Wurt Tice ; Vice-President, Jame3 B. 
Keeler ; Secretary, Miss Helen Dudley ; Treasurer, Mrs. 
Anna Grant. The club has been making some fine scores 
lately, and ere long we hope to see them competing with 
Some of the older organizations. If all had the enthu¬ 
siasm of Geo. A. Dudley, Esq. (who by the way may he 
termed the father of the club, as he is in reality of its fair 
Secretary), they would probably attend the meeting of 
the Eastern Association at Boston in a body. 
Westwood and Wayerly — College Hill, Ohio, Aug. 
29 th. —Match between the Westwood Club, of Westwood, 
and the Waverly Club, of College Hill, took place Friday, 
August 29th, on the beautiful grounds of Airs. Holleu- 
»hade, at College Hill; clubs very evenly matched, and 
the game from the commencement to the close very r 
esting; the Waverly Club was. however, victorious bi 
following score of 1,095 to 1,061 
, inter- 
by the 
WESTWOOD. 
Mr. C. Millor.. 
Miss 1C. Miller. 
Mr. I>\ Miller . 
Miss Lawiler 
Air. Bonder*.. 
Total. 
Mr. Btigloy. 24 ' 
Miss Sims . 25 
M r. Healey__ 21 
Miss Worthington. 29 
Mr. Upson. .. 20 
Total . 122 
Miss PenroBO... 
Mr. II. Brueo... 
Miss Waters. . 
Miss O. Bruce.. 
Mias L. Bruce.. 
Total.. 
Miss Hnllenshade.. 27 
Mr, Bruce . 25 
Miss I’ounaford_ 20 
Mr. Barker . 31 
Miss Pierson. 25 
..121 
Miss Kate Miller of the Westwood Club, and Afiss Ida 
Hollenshado, of the Waverly Club, were awarded the 
prizes, Miss Miller scoring thirty hits and 172 points, and 
Miss Hollenshade scoring twenty-seven hits and 129 points. 
Distance, forty yards for gentlemen and thirty yards for 
ladies; size of target, forty-eight inches: numberof ar¬ 
rows shot by each side, 300; number of rounds tan, 
American vs. English Bows,— New York, Sept Tith. 
— Editor Forest and Stream: — Will you allow me to 
answer your correspondent “ Toxophilite,” in this week’s 
issuo of your valuable jiuper. His statements, I think, 
are somewhat open to criticism. “ Toxophilite " begins 
by stating that he is not an advertising agent, but pro¬ 
ceeds to advertise a firm in this city very thoroughly—in 
fact, rather too much, as it shows too plainly the purpose 
for which the article was written. It is all very well to 
praise up foreign yew bows, but who is willing to pay 
from $50 to $100 for a bow that may break the first time 
it is used ? Ail wooden bows are liable to accidents, and 
yew bows as much so as any others. Mr. Aldred himself 
will not even string his most expensive yew bows with¬ 
out being first paid for them. 
His statement that no maker in this country has stock 
enough ahead to fill the requirements of the trade, is all 
nonsense, and proves he knows nothing about the matter. 
He also gives the prices wrong on American bows ; they 
range from $2 to $20, and, as I stated before, if archers 
get then- bows from responsible houses they will get well- 
seasoned wood, as no house valuing its reputation would 
use any other. 
I doubt very much, judging from their own statements, 
that any English makers have wood five years old ahead. 
They have had too many orders this past two years. In 
fact' judging from the way then- bows have broken this 
year, I should imagine that they were driven to using 
wood anything but well seasoned. I could give you any 
number of facts to show that American bows have stood 
hard shooting as good or better than foreign bows. Will 
furnish names of archers using them, length of time •in 
use, &c.; and not only will show English makers that we 
can make bows and arrows here, but also hope that be¬ 
fore long we can show them how to use them. 
Archer. 
95 Liberty street, New York, Sept. 6th. 
In your issue of this week is an article by “Toxophol- 
ite ” of so peculiar a character that I for one must take 
issue with some of his conclusions. He says he is not the 
advertising agent for any house, and then gives us the 
most glowing adv. of an English archery manufacturer, 
and winds up by saying no good bows can be made in this 
country. I have seen the bows for sale by Crook & Go., 
and they are beautiful specimens of the bower’s art. 
The yew bows are gems that any archer may be proud to 
own and I know will be pleased to use. They are first- 
class in every respect, and I would recommend every 
archer in New York to call and see them, But to an 
American mechanic, a wood-worker, Mr. Aldred’s state¬ 
ment of wood five years in his shop seems rather comical. 
The English carriage-makers used to do the same thing; 
but the American carriage-builder uses wood seasoned 
artificially and only a few months old, and builds a better 
carriage, especially where lightness and elasticity is 
wanted, than our transatlantic cousins, so much so that 
American light buggies, &c., and American timber are 
used in England in preference to their own make. I 
think a how that is this year a 40-pound and next year 
a 50-pound bow would be a mechanical curiosity—a gain 
of 20 per cent, in a year, Good old Bishop Latimer says 
in liis sixth sermon : “ I had my bows bought me accord¬ 
ing to my age and strength as I increased in them ; so my 
bows were made bigger and bigger, for men will never 
shoot well except they be brought up in it.” That bow 
that grew in strength would have done the growing boy 
if it did not outgrow him. To think a stick of timber, 1 
inch by lj- inches, Bhould take five years to season, and a 
man to make a bow must have years of experience 1 Wiry 
yea rs 1 An American mechanic can learn to make any¬ 
thing, and does bo every day in less months, and often 
weeks, than the English says it takes them years to do. 
Carpenters do not make fly-rods as a general thing in this 
or any other country ; but I know a fly-rod made by a 
machinist (American), that was calculated upon hyper¬ 
bolic curve in its cross-section, that when finished the tip 
and butt were brought together, and the rod described a 
nearly perfect circle. Would the bow made by an Amer¬ 
ican from the same stick in exactly the same form shoot 
less web than when made by Air. Aldred ? Now, as to-day 
we have instruments to measure to the one-thousandth of 
an inch in common use among our best mechanics, the 
making of an exact copy of a bow or anything else is a 
very simple affair. Bo far we have made but very 
few yew bows, but they will be made and by our best 
makers, and aB to-day we are making as good self-lance 
and snake-wood as are made in the world, and better 
backed bows than are imported, I think it is safe to say 
that when we get yew-wood wo will make as good and 
perhaps better than any English maker, no matter what 
his name may bo. It” will be for this reason—that the 
Americans dare dopart from the old way and try a new 
one. Let any one examine the backed bows of Horse¬ 
man or Conroy, Bissett & Alalleson, or any others of ‘our 
first-class mak‘ers r andthoy will find that it has hot taken 
•years of experience to make a first-class.article. The 
American cannot let anything he touches alone: no 
sooner does he get his fingers on it than hg sets about to 
improve it without experience, and he makes Waltham 
watches, locks, rifles, fowling-pieces, &c„ better than our 
English cousins, and John. Bull is driven out of the mar¬ 
ket by a better article at a less price. Within a year two 
new bows have been brought out that have departed from 
the long-beaten pat h—the split bamboo by Mr. Mallisou 
and my own raw-hide hacked bow. Now, just a hint to 
“ Toxophilite There is more mechanical skill in the 
making of one split bamboo bow than in all the bows 
made by Mr. Aldred in a year. It is made up in sections 
and put together and cannot be tested until finished, and 
is then either a success or a failure, and is a success ; while 
any other bow made is, if too stiff in one place, worked 
down until it is all right, tinkered at as it may need it; 
but the other is built all right from the start to'the finish. 
My own bow I have put upon the back a piece of raw- 
hide under tension, so that I not only get the power of 
the wood, as the English how, hut the additional power 
of tlie stretched raw-hide. I had supposed I was the first 
to do this (get tension on the back), but yesterday I found 
in an old book that bows had been made with the backs 
grooved, and a strong cat-gut cord stretched on the 
hack and fastened to the ends only, so when the bow was 
being used the cord lay in the groove and added its ten¬ 
sion to the power of the how, thus getting the two actions 
at tlie same time. The two new bows both allow the 
archer to use longer arrows, and we may see the “cloth- 
yard shaft ” of old again in the field, and shot not by Eng¬ 
lish but by American bows. For no English maker wfll 
make a bow six feet long to shoot 86-inch arrows and 
warrant the how to stand it, while that warrantee can be 
had with the two bows just mentioned. If “ Toxophilite” 
or any other person interested in archery, will call on me 
I will be most happy to show him lance-wood bows pulled 
36 inches without harm to the bow and at prices within 
the reach of any one’s pocket. American mechanics are 
superior to any others in the world, and having begun the 
making of hows and arrows, will not stop until they sup¬ 
ply the world with a better article for a less price than 
any one else, not excepting Air. Aldred. 
John W, Sutton. 
Williamsburgh Athletic Club. — Opening public 
games on .the club grounds, Rutledge street and Bedford 
avenue, August 23d. The events upon the programme 
were as follows, the games passing' off with great credit 
to the new club :— 
Two hundred and twenty yards dash; competitors: 
Chas. Simmons, Chas. Husted, Geo. R, Watson, Frank 
Price, and Chas. Hazleton. Won by Price in 30s. 
One mile handicap walk ; competitors : Chas. Wilson, 
Brooklyn, 55s.; George H. Murray, Harlem Athletic As¬ 
sociation, 50s.; Frank Holly, Williamsburgh Club, 60s.; 
J. Al. W. Hunt, Williamsburgh Club, 40s.; W. F. Leeder, 
Brooklyn, 35a.; George Weinmann, Brooklyn, 10s. Bol- 
stridge, of the North Side Athletic Association, was 
scratch. Murray won in 9m. and 35s. Holly second, 
9m. 6s. 
Half mile run; S. Knight, Putnam A. C., scratch ; 
Elmer Cain, Brooklyn, 45 yards; N. I. Lyon, Williams¬ 
burgh Club, 40 yards; Joseph Liddle, Brooklyn, 35 yards ; 
Harry Armour, 35 yards; D, Feigenbaum, Harlem Club, 
30 yards; R. H. Schile, Pastime Club, 30 yards ; Fred. 
Burns, Brooklyn, 25 yards ; John C. Hopkins, Brooklyn, 
25 yards. Feigenbaum first in 2m. 15s., and Burns sec¬ 
ond a second lator. Hopkins held a steady third during 
the last two laps. 
Three-mile walk. The entries were : Herman Elrodt, 
A. C. Hatfield, Herman Wagner, Jr., J. M. W. Hunt, and 
J. F. Alarshall, Won by Alarshall in 29m. Elrodt, second. 
One-mile run, S. Knight, scratch; Harry Cobertt, 
Brooklyn, 50 yards ; George Kikner, Williamsburgh Club. 
40 yards ; Robert Gray, Brooklyn, 40 yards; Michael 
Eastman, New York, 40 yards. Won by Knight in am. 
r ~. Kibner second. 
Lacrosse — Newport, R. I., Aug. 28th. —Match between 
the Ravenswood and Union Athletic Clubs. The Ravens- 
wood Club had a Ritchey at goal, G. B. Wilson at point, 
J. Flannery at cover point, H. Goldsmith and N. Noble 
at defence field, G. Whittaker at center field, W. Journey 
and H. Cluff at field, J. Nichol and J. Murney at home 
field, and E. Cuff and W. P. Ritchey at home. E. Cluff 
acted as captain. The Union Alliletkic Club had P. F. 
Ferris at goal, P. Crosby at point, W, S. Hook at cover 
point, H. W. Howard and J. K. Simpson at defence field, 
F. M. Wood at center field, J. Clancy and H. Burton, Jr., 
at field, J. Campbell and S. McDonald at home field, and 
A. H. A. Mortimer G, D. White at home. The first goal 
won by Ravenswoods in 16£m.; second goal, Unions, 
21m.; third goal, Unions, 291m. This won for the Boston 
men the challenge presented by the Westchester Polo 
Club, to be contended for annually. 
Rye (N. Y.) Athletic Club. —A club has recently been 
organized at Rye, Westchester County, N. Y., under the 
name of the Rye Athletic Club, with the following officers: 
— President, W. H. Catlin; Vice-President, T. T. Sher¬ 
man ; Treasurer, C, Sackett; Recording Secretary, J. H. 
Wainwright; Corresponding Secretary, F. H. Bell; Cap¬ 
tain, W. H. Catlin. The dub has already about fifty 
active members, and new applications for* membership 
are constantly being received. All communications should 
be addressed to the Corresponding Secretary. 
A one-fifth-mile track, sixteen feet wide, with a straight¬ 
away of 150 yards, twenty-five feet wide, is now being 
built, and promises to be when completed one of the best 
and fastest tracks in the country. 
The club hopes to give then- opening games about the 
last of October or first of November. 
One-Armed Swimmers,— .Fort Monroe, Va„ Sept 1st.— 
A. L. Donaldson, of Baltimore, a brother of the late Pro¬ 
fessor Donaldson, the aaronaut, swam from Norfolk to 
Old Point one day last week, a distance of fifteen miles, 
in six hours. He has but one arm. And a one-armed 
inmate of Blackwell’s Island, the other night, who could 
not swim, appropriated an empty coffin in the dead house 
and went paddling upward with the flood to liberty. 
Amateur Championship of America. —The fourth an¬ 
nual meeting of the National Association of Amateur 
Athletes of America will be held at Mott Haven, Sept. 
27th. Programmes and conditions may be obtained by 
addressing the Secretary N. A. A. A., 183 Broadway, New 
York, Entiles are co m i n g in which promis# to malm 
thete the best games of the country, 
