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FOREST AND STREAM, 
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Bldps can dor, If the N. Y. Y. O. does not offer them the 
opportunity, the consequences will be evident enough ; 
they will hoist the colors of the Seawanhaka or Atlantic, 
and what is their gain has already come to be the loss of 
the senior club of America, 
For the sake of reference, as well as the interesting 
data contained, we publish herewith a table of the regular 
“ regattas” of the New York Y. 0,, and a study of the 
same will be of much Use to members of the club prepara¬ 
tory to making up Iheir minds in relation to abolishing 
or continuing the Juue races: 
Si 
1 - 1 . 
1817 
18(8 
18111 
1850 
1851 
1852 
1853 
1851 
1858 
1859 
1860 
1862 
1 63 
1861 
1865 
1306 
1867 
1809 
1870 
1871 
1873 
1871 
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1870 
1878 
1870 
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5 
23 
15 
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44 
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18 
13 
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0 
39 
in 
8 
8 
5 
4 
55 
B 
6 
03 
19 
ti¬ 
5 
6 
37 
07 
ll 
6 
4 
5 
39 
45 
1 
7 
5 
4 
OB 
33 
8 
8 
7 
5 
65 
30 
14 
14 
11 
5 
30 
04 
10 
16 
11 
3 
43 
411 
21 
19 
13 
3 
: 
19 
21 
19 
19 
4 
56 
47 
23 
23 
8 
7 
20 
45 
lfl 
16 
13 
5 
19 
38 
16 
14 
13 
7 
09 
36 
18 
14 
11 
5 
04 
52 
J8 
g 
8 
r> 
49 
05 
12 
9 
9 
5 
37 
29 
9 
8 
8 
5 
41 
50 
7 
5 
5 
7 
19 
05 
13 
IB 
8 
6 
22 
40 
12 
0 
S 
4 
r: 
so 
16 
IS 1 
12 
4 
61 
30 
18 
18 
15 
4 
47 
12 
26 
25 
33 
6 
09 
19 
16 
14 
10 
5 
41 
01 
20 
15 
11 
4 
01 
20 
16 
13 
8 
4 
49 
10 
23 
ai 
18 
5 
48 
32 
16 
3 
54 
481 
11 
11 
5 
5 
41 
37 
13 
12 
10 
5 
08 
31 
11 
13 
10 
5 
13 
06 
15 
15 
4 
07 
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Force of the TFwiri. 
S. W.. strong. 
S, W., light, 
s. tv., ivesli. 
W. N. W. to N. W. 
S. W., light. 
S. W., moderate. 
N. N. W. to S. W„ 
1 light and moderate. 
S. W., strong. 
S. W.. moderate. 
I N. W. to S. E., lead- 
I ing both ways. 
VV. by S., l'resh. 
N. E., strong. 
W. N. W., fresh. 
IN.E. to S. TV., light 
1 and variable. 
I S. S. E„ with calm, 
i closing fresh, 
i S. E. to S. \V„ light, 
1 closing fresh. 
N. E., fresh. 
S, light. 
S.W..light,erulingfresh 
' S. W„ light to S. E. 
strong. 
S.toS. W., light rain 
, squalls. 
with rain squalls. 
S. by W., fresh. 
S. E., squalls and rain. 
S.-S. W., fresh. 
S. E., moderate. 
I S. W., light, ending 
t fresh, S. E. 
j S. W., fresh, ending 
) N. TV., squalls. 
3.E.,strong rain squalls 
5., light at times. 
S. E. by S., fresh. 
' S. E. to S. W. fresh, 
, ending N.TV.,squaUs 
3., light, ending fresh. 
E. to S.S.E., fresh. 
*For Atnm'iva's cup. 
The eourse in 1845 was from Robin's Reef around 
Southwest Spit and return. In 1846 the course was from 
Elvsian Fields around Southwest Spit and return, and 
continued so up to 1865, when it was changed—from 
Owl's Head to Southwest Spit, around Sandy Hook Light¬ 
ship, and return. In 1868 the start was altered to abreast 
the dub-house on Staten Island. In 1871 tho stan was 
made from stakeboats in the Narrows, and in 1875 again 
shifted to abreast the club-house. In 1877 the start; was 
made as in the previous year, hut the matches terminated 
outside the Narrows, abreast of Buoy 15. 
The races of 1864,1868 and 1878 failed for want of 
wind, and those of 1S47 and 1854 on account of “ storm.” 
Tho tables show the results of resailing in these years. 
The List of Races.—I n the Center Cup 7 
1870, there were four entries, not fourteen, 
Ace, Oot. 16th, 
•is printed. 
Sculling at Jacksonville, Fjta .—Editor Forest and 
Stream .-—There is not perhaps in all the United Stales a 
city of greater animation than this during the winter 
season of the year. Its regular population is about 15,000, 
but during the winter season there is a floating popula¬ 
tion, varying from 30,000 to 50,0t)0 souls, that come from 
everywhere, the reputation of the magnificence of the 
climate having gone in every direction. . , „ 
On Saturday, the 3lst inst., there will be a single scull 
shell boat race upon the St. John’s River, just abreast of 
this city, that will excel anything of the kind. The Com¬ 
mittee of Arrangement!—Hon, Peter Jones, Mayor ; Gen. 
■William M. Ledwith, Major Sherman Conant, and P. 
Child, Esq.— offer a purse of $1,000 to the winner of the 
race ' It will be a three-mile race, one mil e and a half to 
a stakeboat and return, and the following scullers lmve 
already entered : George W. Lee, of Newark, bungs with 
him an elegant shell-boat, made expressly for this race 
by the celebrated Waters, of Troy, N. Y.; L. B. Tuttle from 
Verplanck’s Point, N. Y., is here, and practicing eveiy day 
upon the river. A. Frenehy Johnson, of Boston, Mass,, 
has also entered. Other distinguished “knights of the 
oar” will add eclat to this gland exhibition, and rooms 
are ranidlv being secured at the principal hotels tor the 
event Dick Tlnto. 
Brooklyn Yacht Club.— A meeting of this club was 
held Jan. 7th. The session was private, no public matters 
were transacted, and the election of officers was post¬ 
poned till the February meeting. 
Hunt’s Magazine,— Time will tell. After sailing 
tmder the same cover for twenty-eight years, Hunt’s for 
January, 1830, comes tons in all thefreshness of anew 
shift Of togs. Its new cover is appropriate and more i.r- 
tistie than the old, May this favorite magazine of yachts¬ 
men all the world over flourish for all time to come. 
Lectures on Canoeing.— Yachtsmen have profited 
much by the lectures delivered before them upon various 
occasions, and we are glad to know that so able and ex¬ 
perienced a canoeist as Mr. A. H. Siegfried is open to 
eno-agements for the lecture season, his topics being 
“ Canoe and Camp,” and “The High Mississippi Under 
Sail aud Paddle.” In these he gives much valuable mfor- 
mation concerning open air life on the banks of lake aud 
river, and wherever his lectures are delivered sudden life 
is infused into the inhabitants, who all want to “ go and 
do likewise.”—the best thing to popularize so romantic 
and health-giving a sport. From the very nature of 
tilings, all Americans ought to he canoeists instead of 
sickly dyspeptics and haymakers dreading water worse 
than fire. The address of Mr. Siegfried is care »* Pioneer 
Press, St. Paul, Mich.” 
Where to Boy Yachts. —We are often in receipt of 
letters inquiring about yachts in the markets, their rec¬ 
ords and value, etc. To all readers proposing to buy or 
sell yacht property we recommend application to the 
agency of Mr. Thos. Man nin g, the oldest and only relia¬ 
ble house of the kind in America, whose card will be 
found elsewhere. Mr. Manning has bought and sold the 
great majority of all yachts which have changed hands 
wit hi n tlie past seven years, and has a large selection of 
ail rigs and tonnage now on his books. Yachts can he 
sent South or to the Lakes by inland routes. As tonnage 
is on the rise now is the best time to buy, before prices 
go up. 
Seawanhaka Yacht Club. —The regular annual meet¬ 
ing of this club was held at Dehnonico’s, Jan. 13th, the 
Commodore in the chair. A flourishing financial exhibit 
was made by the Treasurer. Receipts, $3,636 : disburse¬ 
ments, $3,318 ; balance in hand, $1,318. The following 
officers were elected for 1880 : Commodore, W. W. Stew¬ 
art, sloop Regina; Vice-Commodore, C. S. Lee, sloop 
Schemer: Rear Commodore, M. Roosevelt Schuyler, 
cutter Yolande; Treasurer, "VV. B. Simonds; Secre¬ 
tary, O. B, Cromwell; Measurer, A. Carey Smith; 
Regatta Committee. Robert Centre, Girard Foster, James 
H. Elliott, C. W. Betts and Lewis P. Bayard ; House Com¬ 
mittee, F. de Luze, David Crocker, Alfred Roosevelt. 
The club numbers 132 members. The following gentle 
men were added to the list: Frank E. Peabody, cutter 
Enterprise, of Boston ; Eugene La Chaise, cutter not yet 
named; Latham Fish, Com. A. Y. C., schooner Agnes. 
An amendment to the Constitution was adopted, provid¬ 
ing for the election of a Board of Trustees of five mem¬ 
bers for the term of five years, one to retire each year in 
place of a newly elected member. The Board to present 
three names each year, one of whom is to be 
chosen by the club to fill the vacancy, unless 
the retiring trustee is reelected. In the evening 
the club partook of their annual dinner in the banquet 
hall. This is the first time in America that a flag officer 
of one of the leading clubs hoists his broad pennant at 
the mast head of a genuine cutter. The world moves. 
The National Yachting Association.— The following 
clubs are among those who have signified their intention 
of taking part in the formation of the Association : Colum¬ 
bia, Jersey City, Portland, New Jersey, National, Hudson 
River, Cleveland, Toledo, Williamsburg, Empire, Buff¬ 
alo, Albany. We quote the following from our excellent 
contemporary, the San Francisco Olympian :— 
Theprojeetsuggested, we believe, by Mr. C. P. KimharcH, yacht- 
g editor of the New York Forest and Stream, in the matter ot 
.. National Yachtiug Association, is meoting with the considera¬ 
tion 1 it deserves. Representatives of the Brooklyn, New York, 
Jersey City, Salem. Manhattan, Hudson River and Empire Yacht 
Clubs recently met In New York to discuss the subject, and a 
committee has been appointed to prepare an address to the clubs 
of the United States, calling for a convention of yachtsmen for 
the purpose of organizing a National Association. This Associa¬ 
tion is to pi eserve all records, make rules for measuring, ballast¬ 
ing and sailing yachts. 
The idea is a good one in many respects. As it is now, every 
dub is on “its own hook,” and all sorts of absurd rules of meas¬ 
urement, racing, etc., are in vogue. With an association harmo¬ 
niously organized, and recognized by leading clubs, an Improved 
spirit will be fostered among yachtsmen. They can all suiL under 
the same rules, and comparisons of models, lines, etc., will doubt¬ 
less be more frequent where yacht owners have move commu¬ 
nity interests than they have now. 
There are a number of questions connected with regattas, etc., 
which should be definitely settled oneway or another, by some 
authority, so that some rigid Jaw or custom will be established. 
All those things will he better decided by representative yachts¬ 
men In convention than by discussions in clubs. 
And on the same subject the London Field says, in re¬ 
ferring to a proposed constitution : “Nothing is said in 
these sections about subscriptions, either from private 
members or the clubs; but we presume that if a member 
is to pay £2 2s., each club would have to subscribe at least 
CIO 10s. No provision is made for a committee or 
council of management, and this can be regarded as a 
very serious defect in the proposed constitution.” As 
everything so far has been only of a preliminary nature 
we have no doubt that when mors thorough organization 
is effected a satisfactory plan of action will be decided 
UJJOLI. 
Our French contemporary, Le Yacht, likewise gives a 
hearty approval of this movement as follows : “Tlie es¬ 
tablishment of such an association has a double signifi¬ 
cance ; for one thing it is evidence of the importance and 
growth of yachting in the United States, and for an¬ 
other, the novelty of its intended application is to the 
credit of American yachtsmen. It is with a view to cre¬ 
ating a certain order out of the present confusion, and 
for promoting cordiality and unity of action among 
American yachtsmen, that the idea of forming this asso¬ 
ciation lias been developed during the past year. There 
is in this movement a controlling idea of the highest 
order which is bound to have fruitful results.” 
The success of the proposed Association lays entirely 
with the clubs throughout the country and the men at 
tlie helm. Most noteworthy is the ready manner in 
which Western clubs have coine to the front, and by their 
support have shown themselves to be wide-awake or¬ 
ganizations. 
Cleveland Yachting Association. —Matters are flour¬ 
ishing with, this club, and next season promises to be a 
blight one. The annual regatta has beon fixed for July 
4th. Five new yachts are being built for the club. The 
7 la, formerly of Put-in-Bay, has been bought by Messrs. 
VV. & H. Geiiach, and hoists the club colors. Messrs. 
Rettger have traded off then sloop Vixen, winner of last 
September race, for schooner Star, formerly of San¬ 
dusky. Geo, Parrish mid Scott Robison have been 
elected members. The following committee has been 
appointed to confer with Secretary Frick, of the N, Y, A.; 
—Captain F, W. Edwards, Frank H. Smead and W. B. 
Francis. Says a Cleveland exchange:—“The movement 
made of late years I oward yacht organizations should be 
encouraged both by the United States Government and 
its private citizens, as all of these clubs are simply schools 
to perpetuate mercantile prosperity and the exchange of 
a widespread courtesy so necessary to the success of a 
nation united to the outside world by fleets of vessels.” 
Regates Internationales. —The International Regatta 
of Nice, France, promises to be a brilliant affair, Money 
and patronage will he expended upon it lavishi!”"'^, 
and the prizes 'are no tin kettles or nickels either. In fat?,. L'' 
in the matter of prizes France takes the lead of all others, rti 
and our own purses seem puny indeed compared to the; jc 
value France sets upon winning a race. The regatta is n; 
under the patronage of the Oercle de la Midilerranie, 
with the Prince of Wales as Honorary President, and 
will be sailed Thursday and Friday, March 11th and 12th. 
First prize, $5,000 and work of art (offered by the Yacht 
Club de France), open to yachts over twenty tons : sec¬ 
ond prize, $600 and work of art; third prize, $300 and 
medal; fourth prize, $100 and medal. These look like 
business, and make it worth while.raeing for. What a 
pity that America will not be present in such a grand 
matoh ! Course, thirty miles ; entrance, $30 ; open till 
March 1st; after that double the entrance money. Sec¬ 
ond race, for steam yachts over forty tons, prizes, $4,000 
and medal; $3,000 and medal; $600 and medal; $300 and 
medal, and $100 to the fourth ; course, forty miles : sails 
allowed; time allowance based upon power of engines 
and tonnage; entrance, $30. Third race, yachts under 
twenty tons; no restrictions. Four classes, thirty-four 
feet, twenty-five feet, eighteen feet and fifteen feet, with 
three prizes in each class, ranging from $300 to $20. 
Course, ten miles, sail twice over; entrance, $9. Rowing 
races for four-oared boats follow ; two miles; entrance, 
$20 : prizes, $800 to $50. Single-handed sailing and also 
scuffing races and yawl races complete what is probably 
the “ biggest" tiling of the kind ever gotten up. There 
will also be races for steam launches, for the naval forces 
aud for unclassified boats. Pennants to all winners and 
trinkets to the successful helmsmen. The Committee of 
Organization consists of the following A. Borriglione, 
Mayor of Nice, Honorary President; Vice-Count Vigier 
(C.M.) (R. C'.), President; Duo de Rivoli (C. M.), Vice- 
President ; E. Rodrigues-Henriques (Y. C. F.), (C. de la 
V.), (R. C.), Secretary; A. Sicard (C. M.), Treasurer ; 
Messrs. V. Bechard; A. Currie, British Consul; Halmas, 
Houssay (C. de la V.) and E. Perignon (Y C. F.), (C. de 
la Y.) 
The Canoe Congress.— It is “ booming,” and a collec¬ 
tion of a hundred canoes on Lake George, next August, 
is looked forward to with confidence by the knights of 
the paddle. Here is the generous offer of Mr. Rushton, 
the well known canoe builder of Canton, N. Y.:— 
“Editor Forest and Stream: —You may put me down 
for a canoe, value not less than $75, to be placed at the 
disposal of the proper committee, as a prize to he con¬ 
tested for at the canoe regatta of the proposed National 
Club. This offer is subject only to the following condi¬ 
tions on my part: that such management and interest of 
canoeists will be displayed as will insure a successful 
meeting. I make this offer now, thinking a word of en¬ 
couragement to-day might help more than one later in 
the season.” 
It is needless to say that the liberality of Mr. Rushton 
is fully appreciated, and we know of sundry heroes of 
the paddle who are already vowing they will have that 
canoe or capsize in the attempt. We suggest, as one 
feature of the racing programme, “ a land and water,” or 
a “ portage ” race. Start from a point on shore, make 
for the water, launch and board, paddle to another point 
portage across or down the shore, again launch and make 
the best time home to the start. Such a raoe would test 
the “ all round ” qualities of different types and the stay 
of the owners, besides being full of interest and incident. 
As the" meet will attract many visitors to the hotels, it 
will be in order for them, as well as the various lines of 
transportation, to lend a helping hand and assist with 
prizes. 
THE CANOE CONGRESS. 
fiditor Forest and Stream 
The Lake George National Canoe Convention, to he held at 
Caldwell Aug. 3d, 4th, 5th and 6th, 1880—the call for which was 
published in the Forest and Stream oi Jan. lat—promises to be 
oneofthegreatesteventsaft.be season. Responses are coming 
in from all quarters, and a liberal support of the movement is 
promised. N. H. Bishop, Esq., in a letter to one of the signers of 
the call, says:—“Captain Lee Harris, the owner Of the little 
Steamer Owl, who is an Adirondack guide, and lives in Caldwell, 
will ‘ enthuse' the Indians—some half-dozen or more who live in 
the outskirts of the village. He will try to find them birch trees 
large enough to make canoes, and if we offer a prize for an Indian 
canoe race, we may coax them into dressing in savage style and 
putting on the war paint. As their leader is thoroughly Chris¬ 
tianized, and the best member of one of our churches, it may re¬ 
quire tlie persuasive eloquence of Rev. Mr. H - , their neighbor 
uud pastor (id30 a canoeist) to second Captain Lee Harris’ work ; 
but we must have an Indian canoe raoe on the Horioon of 
Cooper, if we have toimport the Indians from Canada." 
Judge Longworth, Commodore of the Cincinnati Canoe Club, 
writes:—“ Several days ago I was handed a communication from 
yourself concerning a proposed convention of canoeists at Lake 
Georgein August next. Our club desires to Join in the call for 
the convention, and to become a member of the National Asso¬ 
ciation.” Jersey City Q. C. 
BROAD PENNANTS, BURGEES, AND COLORS. 
FiliiorForest and Stream :— 
Having oarefullyr,ead all your articles on yachting for some 
time past, I have come to the conclusion that your head is clearer 
on all mutters of really practical y ach ting than any other Journal 
I have ever seen, and you have done more to make our yachting 
men *• sailor men.” I am therefore tempted to submit to you 
a question which is now agitating the San Francisco Yacht 
Club. 
The question is relative to the flags of our club. The racing or 
distinguishing, the Commodore's, aud the Vice-Commodore flags, 
are all exactly the same shape at present, with nothing hut the 
device in the centre of the flag to distinguish one from tho other. 
This I claim to be wrong, as it would he utterly impossible for a 
stranger to tdl the flagship from any other vessel of the fleet. I 
contend that the racing Hag should ho square, that the swallow 
tail is the flag of the commanding officer, and that it is the shape 
of the flag that gives it its significance, and the only thing that 
can be made out with any certainty from a distance. 
I am met with the reply that our club has only followed the rule 
of the New York and other Eastern clubs, and that what they do 
we should do, and that the square racing flag is only the English 
custom. I do not know whether this claim is correct or not; but 
lam not prepared to admit that we should do what la ovidentl j 
