OVBMBBE 24, 1881.1 



FOREST AND STREAM. 



337 



§itie and gyap ^hooting. 



RANGE AND GALLERY. 



THE ( REB0MGOK SEASON 01 



•i irfli shooting «l CTeedmoor for 18SI li.is now vjrtu- 



. ll.i-ii boon usance s.-v I.oi us sec if 11 has. and also 

 :. made a great dual more successful than it 



i nit a trjloe for, the 

 . you . Now, l «o 



rpHE ■ 

 u ii could i 



COcI', I II n.,s a »..-•• proceeding, 11 

 Hull -li-hi-ial.> :..i. I lnuhey 111 Ihc 



held. 



Early In theaeVon two matohK 

 Marksman Him Hi.- llojlmi. Baker 

 nave beea patn nlzed vi rv largely 



the.-e liial.hr.- liny can tu-i|llllV 



•'.-11 111 111- Wit I 



portion pi Uk . nirum e tn ne 



lion, Kale In.-.li . .1 



and worked well, and g 



thinking ihoic w.is a o-ii.iln nuial 



tein. could have in ien iinproved u 



quenioi 



toe ni-st urn.- ii i-, soot, and Oj .-.. 



II.- I- glVeli in- Ml |, Ine.l.-ll.illnl 

 Oilier II" 1 



the [ii-juuipui pi I/." ini.d ililsiitti i- 



j. iraoti is 



nit; a i many again 



nun winning s*j ine ir 



.Sllo.il lIllo.-av.M.-MMI:, !'..-il. U..-III-XUU1.I. 



turn I..' 



shoiilii in- vmii ilrst pu.-lt in the next, to be 



tneilrsi ... il.ii; tn.it i 



wim during i ;omp It tons by same pen 



keen ootupoiiUon would be Kept up In iiiism. 

 season, and t'.Hi the poor shots wou.d have 

 ined lis. 



ine Boy Ian, Baker and McKenney matches 

 ilus season .n.'i i. ■ ■■ d ine a gre il 

 aiiooun-^ hi :■ and 8 yards Thi 

 other ki .- . . I : .hum,' grouud tor 



especial!} for Che military, It glvu 

 toshool .ii the ir.nger ranges. This Is shown 

 In in-' iiuini't'i ..f marksmen tins year, and a 

 of scores, in tote mafcn 

 day '.i : 



■worth or silver medals glvei 



matches toe better. Still, fen aic-i attempt n 



The military are the paying support of 

 in iii-i'i-.- -h. u .1 be bad that they can patro 

 nn'1 valuable piizes should be. put in the t 

 above. 



Another very" important match this season 

 mlshers' '" -ini|«ni.iiii in in >re wavs than one. 

 an (ue quainic- cuat n soldier should poss 

 kei'p com, be quick in ills actions, handy vti 

 know lil- ei,-vailo..s thinouvhiy at ail ills, m.- 

 be a K'.o : i his m it b vh 



S a II, -n In.- lodging .11-1 ill...- (11. ll. a way c- 



nini will, t i.-iwi-r ihaj won;. i ... 



i ii -i .ii i.--i i kept up ana h 



when it has been 



M.\(;N(H.i\ SALIEET.— All the matches at tela famous resort 

 arc lining weUi ana 8ome One scores are eiedlted to the several par- 

 liclpaotsln each match, 



Ai: 



:rs' 1(1 



The elasslflo D 

 very Indifferent 

 I 

 them, This was 



through 



pilalluii 

 State Of 



6 Baxter 



irndoubtedly the iBOst^reraarkablw pistol scores were made attbe 



Ho-, -'.jiii-rv m ibi- nun ; . 

 the several participants lnvc i-.\,.-i;ilea all their previous recoup: 



r.) liabbeiti so so &o— 205 j Ames S4 S3 86— 2~ 



J II Williams -. -: - 



Press Hide, Mnteb. 

 TW Scott 43 44 45 4B 46-838 P Browncll 41 



O II Koberls...4i 48 « 46 ..—171 o Li niaiiehard 41 



Amateur mile Match. 



'. 'II.., |.n 48 48 4fl 4T 49— 243 11 Mllli'ti 42 44 45 47 



A i- Ma.ihard...4i; 4'! 47 47 4S— -234 W C M. t.Mllim 4» 4 -J II 



HOrny. ........ 41 41 45 46 47— 220 V V Twldi BS 41 



Amateur Pistol Match.— Some tine scores are belne made In this 

 "' null, and the little arm is becoming more popular than the rifle 

 i"i gallery work. 



B Mind 70 77 80—233 W M Noreross 7:1 77 77—2-27 



P W Scott 16 70 SU-252SK .Snillll 70 71 74— -Mn 



H F Sehaefer 75 75 s — 2S0 E li Foster 61 7u 75—818 



Rifle range, 100 feet. Iistol range, 15 tect. 



zi-:rn.i-:i; rifle CLTJb— 207 B iwery, n.-.v v.-tk. no.m.-> -i-:i. ivehtu 



cniip.-illion o.r the Hlver cup inai.-li, ii'-cijinnor t-trgets, 10 sliols 

 per mau, pos-slble 60. gallery distance. \\ Klcln4»,M Borier4S,J II 

 liroun ;-. \i i: l--n_r- i i-, r .lo.i- .., j-, p Kenning IT, G Joiner 47. R 

 ^immfrmann 4«, A Slebenetchen 40, J Levy 45, J Lr.Ncll Ji, S I) Ward 

 S,HHoge8«,ALohes4s i 



NKWl'oliT, K. I., Nov. m.-ai the regular weekly march of The 

 :.i-a;.'.i 1:111c. Association the following record was made on the 

 Mas- ( cli 0-1-1 1.- larg.-t. Mr. w. Milton l-'arrow, ilic iu under 01 the 

 club, leading with Uie best score ho has ever made on lids target: 



W Milton Farrow 10 11 is 12 io 11 12 12 ID— ids 



re-entry 12 11 12 11 12 11 11 n 12 12-iir, 



,J n vrethereil H 11 7 5 h a 10 11 a li— V2 



re-entry 10 7 7 8 12 12 12 9 6 S— ai 



CSl'luinuier 10 7 2 9 11 11 9 10 II 11- m 



re-entry 9 a s r, 8 » 11 a 12 9— :mi 



WB Knights 7 1 9 12 8 9 12 16 18 7- IU 



re-entry 7 111 9 9 a s 10 a c 11— 8« 



WD Green 6 in 10 T 8 8 12 9 B— 87 



re-entry 11 10 9 s 4 7 9 9 11 in— 09 



GeoSSlocum. 7 m r. 9 r> 12 s 10—78 



re-entry 9 60«097i0 7 10— f>o 



T. J. L. F. 

 ALBANY— 'Match shot. Nov. 17.— The pleasant weather brought 

 (julte an assemblage of marksmen 10 Rensselaerwyck. The wind 

 was having a frolic all byltseii, muchtothe (Us lomton 01 the m rrkB- 

 men, and many ot the slips are attributed to ihc ti. I,:..- <■!■ nc-i.t. a 

 subscription match of seven Shots a SOU and 300 varus was n,..- .■■.'.,-. 

 peiltlon In winch they Mere to engage, sights were caiefullyad- 



thei 



Hi 



•ere complel 

 ble 10 get a 

 ave lelt sail 



Subscription Match. 

 211:1 yard-. 



Loouird (leigtr, H a 4 455 5 4 4—31 



Win !•: 1 nc. 1, Hai S 4 5 r> 4 5 4 s— 32 



.1 1: Webster, Bala 5 45435 4—30 



c 11 Charles, nai s 4 b 3144 s -2:1 



. Bal .- :i 4 4 3 a 1 6-28 



:-. KS 4 6 II 4 4 5 0— ;7 



.1 li .SCllli;, -..•!•, lla'.S 3 4 4 4 5 4 4— IS 



-Mil. Bal S 4 3 4 5 4 4 3— L\ 



1 t-'Ul lliatthcy arc 



son yards. 



fi 5 5 5 4 4 4— 32— 63 

 4 4 5 5 4 6 3—3"— 02 

 4 5 3 3 5 3 8—26—66 

 3 -I 4 4 3 I 4— 89— SB 

 2 4 3 3 5 3 I- 4 — .Mi 

 2 2 3 I 6 3 3—22—49 

 U 5 2 3 2 5 4-21—49 

 3 4 4 3 2—16-41 



tltor withdrew. 



log 1 wo matches will be shot, at Ihc range, one at 301) and 



aids. Both of tliein win be re-pnty matches and will 



1 ilieiiioiiilngand inn all day. 



W'OKt'K-'n::;. Mas- 

 organized, have eh clr 

 A. KnlLlu : Vlce-Prc- 

 urer, John \ I 



The old organl 



EC 



I tn - 



their me 

 prizes— 01 

 j ,-■ -■ ■!!,;■• • 



ie last regular shoot, ot the Gardner 



in oi ihe we ilher. On Thanksgiving 



at Hackmatack: Range. iT.paia- 



; liii-i.i: rim. r 



211 Fourth Ave 



CREEDMOOR.— The "Thanksgiving Day ■ ride much at t'reeil- 

 moor, Thursday, November 21. eoaiiiieiicos at 9:30 a. 11. iralns leave 



. .1 allowance on eai 

 live for $2; rides 10 loan ult.iioii! 

 Also, all d..;. 



son; Ailjiiiant, Dr. M. M. Mi.lloy; Si cn-iar.v, Win, Herbert; Kluan- 

 Olal Secretary, II. It. ltussell; Tieasurer, ,las. A. Wind: Trustees— 

 Kalph '1'rautiimn and L. W. Clark. 



two pest scoi 

 ontlusdaynr 

 wiu be f urnlsl 



MAMMOTH GAI.LE'iY— Boston, Nov. is. -The 1 

 •well hlicl during the past week, boih day and 1 

 Remington, well known 10 rill -111011, has taken ,:in 

 ani nas concluded, in order to siiinm u,- the pr u 

 and plslol, to (llsi.i IhnH: at the end 

 from ti 10 *50 In value. The rifle gallery, which 

 raDge, Is the longest in-door gallen In the country 

 litt- -d In -ncli .^i> h- an 1 wo h r,iii-h n^.-ommodatjon 



December wUl be as follows: - ail i 



i no and $s, the iv.m best 5 scores u 

 Hd tjadgi in 1 twooa 



$3, theiw.. : lie Plsiol Ml 



• pistol, 3 



Tld'V ROD ANH i.lN rl.rn.-Tioy, N. Y.. N,v. la. -Kl lie match 

 at glass balls. Card .- rotary nap, IS yards rise : 



Punning mil 11111 imi-ir, mil ittni -,-. 11:11-14 



HIekock liiill ntmu Mlll-11 Kendal! 1:0m inn nm-13 



Holfmau lid 1 Ulll 1111" — lo 



40 rods, off-hand, Creedinnor target. 

 ■White. 5 5 4 4 4 4 4 4 .-i-i-2 Gregory. ...444443 s 3 4 3-3S 



Fanning. ..4 3 -I 4 5 4 I 4 8 4-39 Ulll 43 4 14 3 4 5 4 4-39 



■Williams....: 3 ;-. 3 4 4 3 S 4 5— 3S M.C0U11111..O 2 3 11 3 2 3 0-13 

 Bebec 5 3 4 3 II 3 4-22 



liuiu.lNCHAM RULES.— The devotees of the trap will he gl id w 



learn tiiaL cop is or ihe Sen li'irlUi^jinm ltules for pigeon shooting 

 pan be had at this office. Piles 2a cents each, 



THE TRAP. 



11 lledcmau, 23 yards 1 1 1 1 0— 1 



TIM! U.27 yards 1 111111—7 



.1 lilclkllig, 25 y.ilils ....1 1 I 1 1 t 1—7 



W Kainji.miiiler. 21 yards 1 101 1 1— r, 



.1 Bvans.87 yards 1 101 1 1 1-0 



, il yards 0111011—.-. 



J Holler, Jr., Jl yards 1 1 mm '—5 



.1 Colter, 21 yards 1 1 1 1 1 1— fi 



11 llro-kmiii, 21 yards 1 1 1 1 0—4 



Tics on 7 : T Kellell 3, J Dlerklng 1. 



Amateur Badge. 

 A Altenbrand 110111— 5 Ulluonch 0110111—5 



In the shoot off A Altenbrand won. 



boat, 



ii"../i-( 

 .-. mi .1 



iw.i.a. 



■ 



gjmhtimj and (^anaeing. 



: rniwt 7io( sec!: 11 



/ or 'i/,1'-,/,.-'/ tf.tt. Inn •- what gtvtjt trpc&d" b> h>r,' thii shape and 



■ iimt u th,< amount of 



,1 /in- builder .'" haiulls, therein leaning him a free clurire >a wary 



« t'i itim'.isi.nm. Incathmqf bulk and o,„: ami all Uie relations ■■/ 



• . Only in f/u- may in 



U11I1/ '" "'ii "'"!/ ii on abnolutely luijicai 



illoyicully hamUcapt ■•■ 



m !/u,-lit rarin 

 tin- Hvorl lamaturi/. 

 A i/ae/U 3H ft. u ■ 



Itnuthntb'atiUt. 1/ thru 



Iter mid xhop, 

 i,gth,i( .., merc'y a»i 

 Ikalty prohibit In- niu- 

 u:t-, and fttrtl 



•- instructive feature* of 



ft. overhang, m made to nail by the 

 . of the yacht be taken an ten r."iA, a/i* 

 will hate to nut! <tt a length implying a fietilvm* n'M of thirteen and a 

 third tout. That it lo my, urn no. rnang of aitotU half a, tun U aeiueeed an 

 though «/««( (o «a inercau in bulk in the budy of the bvut << 



ini/ the mark by the odds 



iiUNiiri.i-:s of mi-:asli:emi:nt. 



'T'AXING " what gives speed " in the finished model Is nn errone- 

 -*- ous conception of the objects of allowing time, if ipial hies and 

 features "which give spier' in a licit were taxed at their true 

 value time allowance would be reduced to a mere handicap. As 

 there can be no sound reason In taxing only one or a few features 

 con [Touting to speed Instead of all, II. follows lliai If all arc raied at 

 their jusr. value and taxed accordingly, the yachts of a ileet win be 

 placed at the ilnish at the same instant of lime, siibjeob only to sac]) 

 differences as are due to the vacyiu; seamanship exhibited and the 

 llukcsof nature. Allowances deduced Iu this manner are handicaps, 

 ng ot ah test or torm or design ssex- 

 ed from a consideration ot only one or a 

 boats are simply imperfect and ;'iu-.,iii- 

 s misleading and unfair In their appllca- 

 rlgln In considerations wholly foreign to 

 pi'.g-. 

 leap— that is a load to 



and when per ret 

 plained. Allowance 

 few of U10 spe i.il i-.- 

 ^>/,7/» lui'idica/ifi, and 

 Hon, bislilcs having 

 those from which measurement for tlnu 

 This latter Is not intended to work as 



be borne as a penalty by the fast boat-b.itas a means df equal- 

 izing the advantages Inherent In Hie u>e of size or bulk apart alto- 

 gether from what, disposition has been made 01 the bull; ; in other 

 words, a/,«r< from design, in order that, the value 1 f form and design 

 may be fairly tested in boats differing lo bulk without permitting 

 such value to become reduced or obliterated by the greater "power'r 

 possessed by an excess of bulk. The real aim of time allowance Is, 

 so lo speak, to reduce the larger boat to the hulk of ihe smaller, so 

 that upon an equal footing in this respect a race will become a fair 

 teal between their shapes and all their features, one and all of which 

 should be left lo tue designer's free choice aud Judgment. 



Allowances based Upon a u.uitlon or his choice and Judgment In 

 such manors arc clearly equivalent to a tax upon Ills model j the 

 M-ii Hung wi.i. !. should go scot-tree. 



Ou the other hand, allowances based upon the omount of bulk of 

 his design call upon him rightfully for a concessl >n to the party not 

 enjoying on equal amount of " power " In the desig: 

 boat, and the tax imposed for .1 dUTe 

 teres with or affects the disposition of 

 two designers, they belug lcfi perfec 

 free to adopt any relation or one pu 

 model. 



The most extreme of the sk!mmli:g-dlsh type can, under a bulk 

 measurement, meet the narrowest kind of a cutler In perfect cquiiy. 

 Bulk measurement acis without prejualce or favor to either, and the 

 bo it m hlch wins (bar secondary or accidental causes, or course) Is In 

 reality ilicifastest form aud combination of the elements entering ln- 

 Into the problem of design. Sue is so by virtues actually possessed, 

 and is not merely made to appear so by the back-acting Jugglery of 

 some rule prejudicial to her opponent's particular dtslgn. . 



L'lulor bulk measurement, all types may exist, aud the question of 

 the best will hi; settled by the survival ot the til test In the long run, 

 as it ought to be, and we will no longer be compelled to accept one 

 Special type, kept alive by the bolstering concession of some rule 

 taxing everything else out or existence. 



ntug of a smaller 

 nowise lnter- 

 disposai or ihe 



11 lis shaping, 



r part or their 



a % ; 



THK EXHIBITION OF =.111!' MODELS. 



•tition will be open to either naval architects, shlp- 

 liip owners (on behair of the bullde.s or designers), Eng- 



■rs to nil up ami send In tabular forms (which will be sup- 

 16 company), giving parllcular- and c ilc.iilai Ions Of their 

 I to furnish su.-li further minimal Ion (if any) as ihe 



require. The tabular forms 10 b • senl with the models. 



s suould, ait.iras p i.-sibl-, a'Piciv to the scales ior the 



. a* u'lven In thepro- 



cla&sldculon, as any considerable deviation may en- 

 nance or rejection of models - . coinmlt- 

 lion, and the awards or the lodges 11 in- various classes 

 1. The Judges win reserve ai themselves fuU liberty to 

 iy prize wneri ta does not, in their 



be : en id specifying the secUou 



ir wlm-li li is en ,-ie.l-tliu-. s- .. la.n I'... c.i-s-l; and the 

 >n the outside of each box 



same Information must be plan 

 or package. 



-Models should 06 

 I.oi.d m. "ii April .■ . 



ly m: 



arrlage paid, to Klsh mongers' Hall, 



--.: a. Mr .1 Alfred ll. Levi-, Bsq , 



xhlbnlon loiniiiiii.-e. t'lsumongers' 

 mm the Han within three days from 



Kvi.it.i.l."',. Ev-r.i care -v i I i !■■ 



ill irs should ii-iuni i i.e •• Application 



l.r-.'i 



PI 



Clause 

 mended. >,. Inch 1 1 

 ion- burden, ri./. 

 5 offer, d by Uie FI 

 Prizes, 2 :. 



Itelatlug 



s.— Section 



aunclies not 

 ud bronze. 



THE POCAHONTAS. 



I-. lit 

 Al_ _ 



to boi-.i.' 



r FOrentaji i -''.• 

 irtlcle in yom 



. 10, signed " Oi c. C," attempting 

 .. „se toe performances 01 the 1'ocahonias 111 the 



:siu which '-■■ illy tailed to establish a re| lita. 



lion In New York' l«iv, preparatory 10 the simgale with ihc Cana- 

 dian, n ■ ■ 'i 1 onfall- ami display, u such Ignorance on 

 many cardinal [mints on U"' p." ul Hie virlier, tlrn |. seems only 

 just to enumerate and coniincni upon some or the 1 ondlinn , r . 

 Which Bhe w.lSbullt, andcxplimv, liy, aioi all Ha- nrag 1 .dulgeu In, 

 :.u Short of CUB «:■:..[ ri 01, ,11-. ui Uuse ioLci. sic-u luher 

 build! 1 g. 



In ihe flrsl place, th.-n, ihc oiiicers of ihe X. w York Y:"l , 



... ■ 1. '..■.' 1 • ■■ 1 : : 10 ,..- ;>., we already 



. in:' Mischief, Grade and tiildcgarde mtgnt noi no equal 

 1 1 1 isk of defeating the Canadian >1S|I ) 



tl eysnp tl tin and sate side, and build a yacht <■..-.- 



pre-sh tor this em 



Mr. Klrby.as our mend "O. C, O. Us : -, 

 builder, "the contract made at 1 .. 



allowed to have his own way tneverythln gas the dl 1 rig of tup 

 boat, aud was never upon any occasion asked to do anything ttun 

 was not eoDrtrLued by his own judgmei 



