Dbokmbee 29, 1881,1 



FOREST AND STREAM. 



To pm the question in a plain t 



: between two boats is weather. But, and pretty often, I 



conditions of wind und 



" quantity ot size"— that Is, tie volume of each— wit bout any regard 

 whatever to iho particular shape that volume has assumed. Mani- 

 festly raring upon such ttrins brings about rational and fair com- 

 parative results in the te6f of form, we are, then, not asking the 

 builder i 'i pay ror the fonn solected (his brains, his model), hut only 

 lor the opoorl unit leu Inherent In the certain umount of hulk he has 

 blade use or, for the good re*«on that an excess In this amount over 

 that employed by another carries with it proportionately greater op- 

 portunities 



So uiut'h for a theoretic consideration of the underlying raiionalcol 

 the question. 



We win now turn our at i en Hon to Uie much less Important points 

 of actual practice Mr, Burgess cites. The Tidal Wave certainly Is i he 

 last vegan a sailor would choose. But ukto need ho no fear of such 

 boats becoming common uader a bulk- rule, One good reason Is thut, 

 (hough (set, sometimes, on a reach, they havo never yet shown 

 themsol' to windward or in rough water, nor can they 



he made to do so by hook or crook. The Palinrr, in spite of the tax 

 imposed upon he march r«ir the Tidal Wave, season 



Id, season out; and as for Intrepid, she can turn away from the can- 

 " Jhlon. There Is very good 

 rule of the Sew fori 

 ir-. a very largo fleet ol 

 Klo attempt has been made 

 Evelyn order, because the 

 oil under- 



boata— too muoh above and not enough under t 

 I think or building a boat this winter for a. 

 be twenty-five feet an. watei 

 it'-r-i i ivo inches hoaie, and • 

 torn of keel, with lion or lead ballast outside. 



ANOTHER CTTTKK OOMINO, 



r c o! 



stood nowadays for any o 



ir to fall a victim to the delusion that a 



narrow, shoal boat can ho 





Water. On llu> contrary', tin 





Mischiefs, \Y-ns. . 



etc.— are, one and all, large, hulk}' boats! 



and have shown themaelve 





utar wlnnors under the bo 



k rule to a greater extent than anything 

 We believe the fear that bulk rules will 



of the skimming dish order. 



produce consumptive era flq 



Jlto unfounded In Uie llgbr of experience, 



and 11 i no rule saves us fro 



u apoplecilc bowls on the other hand, it. 



will be something devouHy 



to be wished. Though not generally un- 



derslood by yaohtgmen ant 



1 builders, r ucre IS quite as much loit by 



having too much bulk as too 



Urtlc. Though the cos tank style of build 



may no: be liable to capsize 





to adopt for knocking about 





and the most wretched ot se 





on a lee shore oi have 10 be: 





anything but chop, chop, nl 





lumpy water, B very uni ills 





OlUSl'TS 





nile :- Us tendency to cut 



ck excess fully as much as too little. A 



boat which Is small to a fan 



t cannot, in the light of the past, hope to 



save In tax what she loses Ir 





As for freeboard being c 



ut down to save bulk, we do not believe 



there Is either the slightest 



evidence otsnch being the case In actual 



experience, nor the least 



Lo bo gained. Even In vtry moderate 



weather, In summer topaal 



1 breezes, the average craft Is Drought 



down to Iter rail when win 



g, and with less freeboard the loss In even 



ordinary weal her would be i 



nueh more serious than the saving In tax. 



The schooners mentioned 



ny Mr. Burgess as suffering heavily on 



accouot of great freeboard 



>uirer to advantage, since they are exces- 



slve in thut respect and woi 



ld be all the better for a tnne less. The 



next of the kind will pmbat 



ly have less, and he abler bo\ts fur M. 



'• it we ivcrc the owner • : 



the Madge : the last thing we should do 



would he to Increase her (re 



eboard ror cruising. It would i>c spoiling 



a good botit with enough sic 

 light amouot tor knocking f 



o for accommodations below and lurtthe 



buiit- Nor would we be b mi 1 



hulk rule to cut he. down; 



t would be spoiling a good boat with no 



more side ttii.li 8 u 



ints tor racing. \\ e would leave her lust 



what she is, the fastest wo 



od and iron ot her size and the ablest 



sea boat or her tonnage in A 



merlca at this day. 



Mr. BurgesV 



to measure depth are sound, and 



that is Just why the bu 



k rule will suit him. Thai rule docs 





oes net measure length. It does -not 



Wi 



bare . 

 lust i 

 beam 



is ntteen-tonner, Maggie, the crack of her 

 has been sold to a Liverpool gentleman, 

 : next year for a series ur matches. Mag- 

 cer and aflyerof first quality, D.er own 

 tug with, a 



i nail. v 



milt 



the Madgi 

 at all U« 



tails, 1,5: 



or any 

 To i 

 propoi 

 ra»iieu 

 Vhlel 

 "sltiu 

 lnstua 

 kind o 

 lent tc 

 goeat 



acre sandbaggcr on u large scale, or it 

 . or, as Mr. Burgess prefers, like our- 

 the medium type. A 50 tou yacht can 

 and 1 1 ft. deep: she may ho 40 ft. long, 



the thing, would ii iioi be perfectly 

 3 upon even terms as lcDg as they all 

 !d the race not answer the question, 

 And where would the equity be In 

 o had chosen the lone sausage form 

 is tank? And would not 



>n one 1b equ! 

 i mea the satis 

 I uder length and 

 es into popularity. 

 I'nd-r in, last, and d'splae*iver,! rules we Matlron warms things 

 genernllv. rrtler hulk- rule- ; my may ail eiist at the outset and 

 those found wanting will hi- dropped, the best retaining full favor. 

 JtwlllbetliesuiiU.ilof rh 

 We disagree a trin« with Mr. largess' general proposition i hat all 



the bulk rule. l(u csros'erlng design In any direction produce deform- 



V C hss tried a bulk rule. It works like a 



9 have trim other rules. They do nor work like a 



.-trite i-olngon for a change 



uteutous, or productive of caricatures upon naval de- 



opurllcular object in substituting tons for length, as 

 . when the tons would eomo no hearer the 

 .than the length. w]Ul which the fictitious tonnage 

 in direct proportion, anyway. 



sugg. 

 size of 

 varies 



JMitor Ft 

 I bellet 

 system o 

 yacht* a 

 opini 



UdTfi 



the 



This Is natural, but for the lntere 

 to come arter ns, such n consldenatl 

 There could be races sailed anion 

 rule- which governed I heir deslgoli 

 adopted t<> govern the races of all 

 SOT olher date agreed upqn. Kat 

 compete « lit. the new. under then 



aside all pi 



once for ml; bin cert'ii 

 agreed upon and ndop 

 the com pi. 



The above letter C'ti 

 Boston. Jt Is ihouri 

 in print. Selfishness, 

 every at'enip:. CO ahi 

 "vested interests" wt 

 hardly heileve the daj 

 the luture.sothatyai 



way of afloptlng nn Improved 

 my of those at present owning 

 1 set up that will not; In their 

 chance Lowin when competing 



3f all, and especially of those 

 should be set one side entirely, 

 our present yachts under the 



wilt prove a eat 



make our flat-lr 



■bowsprit, outboard, 21 ft 

 ft. ; topmast, fld to hal 



sq. ft. 



The Maggie Is built with sawed frames and two steamed frames 

 between, spaced 12 Inches between centres, the doors being compost* 

 lion straps, Uie heels of the timbers, hutting against Ihe keel and 

 resting on a four-Inch stepping channel, the gurboards being bolted 

 through from out to out aria the lower at rakes through fastened to the 

 composition noors. The heels ol the umbers ate secured by two 



are of oak, lower plank of elm. tops'lrtes of cedar, andsheerstrakeso'r 



sided. The. keel rises high above frame 

 separate keelson. Ballast bolted up thr 

 bolts, screwed up on rbe inside. Frames 

 In. molded at head. Bottom plank \.y. In. tl 

 rest of plank, 1 : ,' in. thick. Celling, "; In. 

 heads, etc, 1}$ in.; «]amps, i Id.: plank; 

 1,'i'ln.; deck beam-, :;■ ;.r .. :n., spaced 2ft 

 X In. bolts; heels of frames wn 

 evor heads come outside. Anchors. 86 and 

 Diameter of mast at deck, S>i In ; dlameU 

 tar of gaff, 6 in.; diameter of bowsprit a 

 shrouds a side, ix in. circumference; foi 

 1 in.; copper bobstay bar. ■ in. diameter; 

 cumfcrenoc; bowsprit s" 



hat of (leek, 

 listened with 

 stoned wner- 



, In.: 



lain 



chain fin. link; ibre halliards, la i 



haul, ix in.; topsail sheet, lv in.; heaosneeia, i; in.; spiunaker 

 gear, 1J4 In. Main halliard blocks threefold anil double, 5% In., hen 

 strapped. Peak of nvo single blocks, 5& m.; main sheet has ono 

 double and one single block of BX In., with two single leaders of ■(,'<: 

 in. size; ]ib halliards have three single blocks, 5g in.: tore halllanis 

 two singles of 4X In-i bead sheets havo sin. blocks; topsail sheet 

 has 4 In.; spinnaker gear, 4 In., anaruuner tackles 7 In. ilddleblocks; 

 those of the runner pendant si being 4X In. 



(.'rev.-, ror cruising, two hands and a cook; tor racing, six hands 

 and a 000k. 



as there Is ample opportunity between now and next summer to 

 preparefor the stranger, we eann.-u the uexl time plead "being taken 

 imawarfl3" by Maggie, as has often been attempted in extenua- 

 tion or our defeats at the hands or Madge, though long wanilng of 

 her coming wan given In this journal. \V" say. prepare r^i Maggie; she 

 will cut out the toughest hind of work for us In any klud of weather. 

 Meci her in fair spun, and do not s?n; to escape Uie loyi,- of coming 

 events by throwing out. 1 lii; eii'iei i,\ 

 rules am 10 be Changed this winter, or " pretty Uaa Is - 

 at home, and we will be minus another sound lesson in yacht 

 designs. 



LENGTH AND .SPEED. 



IT is so common to attribute the eilccis of hulk to length, and to 

 claim for the latter what Is really duo lo the former, that we 

 deem H advisable to give the matter special attention In these lines. 



"Length gives speed" and "length Is the main element of speed" 

 are phraaes continually iippermostln discussions upon measurement; 

 yet these two phrases are without a particle or truth, and will not 

 bear examination. 



Glvonafasr, yacht of a certain size, let us say snfL on load-line, 

 Proceed to cut off from berbeam and add to her length until we have 

 anew boat , tv. rt. on load-iin.-, but of no greater bulk than berore. 

 .Now, ir the above mentioned phrases have any mean u 

 that the new yuchr must of necessity be a laster boat man the first, 

 boci 



e thai she 



ill! 



sitton 



her beam and adding the amount thus s.i\ en lo the length the result 

 would, by natural sequence, be a badlv proportioned boat, and cer- 

 tainly nol foster than the shorter but better shared boat of the same 

 bulk. 



length 'what has been taker, from" beam, but a producUon or equal 

 skill to the smaller model and having similar prnpori ions of beam and 

 depth to her length. She win then not only be longer, but al;o a big- 

 ger boai than the other, and then, indeed, will be. the taster ol the 

 two. 



In both these cases the same Increase of B ft. has been made 10 the 

 ength. In the u rat. where the bulk remained 1 he same, speed has 

 not been gained (It would have been gained only in 1 he special case or 



ed of Uie 66 it. yacht be as- 

 ■ or 5 ti., or to the increase or 

 aplcs, the gain In Sliced Is cer- 



1.AK1-: YACHTS. 



EOitot / 

 Utarereadwllhag 



cleson y u 



. 

 level. 1 don t like, an 

 lntng dlshea : 1 hi y ma 

 but tor reul business t 

 bottoms. To mane m; 

 boat In Chicago that 

 emart boats under cen 

 orableto d 

 sou gcir.g, weal herlyt 

 aceuunt. 

 As a rule, during the 



YACHTING NEWS. 



r;;:0:STLYANIA YACHT CLf H-Has Is'sueit H Vf-st pocket ecUtlon 



of liaclub book, giving informal ion about its special rules and sailing 

 rules in a handy form, so I tiat eVet; ,klpper aan carrj Juan about 

 wli h him uuon ali occasions. , le lis an .-llent one and might 

 be adopted elsewhere. The:. ncern, wir.h 



its headqinufers in Phlladelphul 

 about for some satisfactory -was Dfdea ingwl 



ring and overmanning which -rat burden tosmall 



. tats t ■ 



the club hit upon the novel plan 01 liml 



51 ft. 6 in. ot bolt rope and 1 ft. 6 la. - . ynnd this no 



mem 



kepi. down, :.:.'.' :., u- r, n ■. . j 1. -.- 



Between boats, Instead of crews. We never could .-.. • anj objpol or 



equity in theusii.il method f.;r:ieiiui op , .■ . 1, 



andshlf'lng bf 11 . Certainly the , ■■ ■ 



natural oute ,._■ j -.-.-: ." _• ,:.:.. . ...i miposslljle to 



Imagine a more useless, o !•:.,_ ' 



than lie New ■ - tthereal thing 



and ailordlDE . : . ■ 



:i ulslng and sailing months we have pretty fair bright future Is sure to he Its reward; for, in f he long r 



bit ion 01 booml 

 is ihi abOul ;h 

 Sometlines It n 

 and ortim it wo 

 lug on opposite 

 under 1 tie Imp 

 much better to 

 custom and tin 



with yellow centre and white 

 boat. Matches arc sailed over 

 Iphla, to Uelanco wharf and 



i Knows where he 



\ large number of yachts have 



>lic 11 ton of the club book we noticed at. the 



■ ! for some time m March. New 



: . I.. .-.. Win.-irrt, sloop Kelipse; !■:. )). Mr.r- 



' Muriel; teste.. \\ aiiat;::, -. , 



nd Morris Ketch or 



1, -It'., 

 the 

 II it.. 



orders for threo cutters, the pit 

 may be slipped In spring. Hi 

 tend their construction In son 

 had good "nibbles'- for halt a d 



[bre. 



resting t 



NDKHI.NOS. -Tills is UiC 1IU0 



isiiini and the cooer:'. ! read' r, n 

 t.tcit.iy way t tie extended voyage around the 

 _.. ~:rTrios. Ilcsketh In his auxilllao' ste — - 

 iVltoh. Afterglvlnguhln lie ., . nine 11 1 



ii-.- h V:On|.inrt un/t llirt H.,o,1, «i> i i.^sl..,.. * .] 



>r anew 



•ountlng 



mid uu- 



1. L ii.ca- 



uAwuu. .,..,., ^,, nit, U-, m i hi.- .Hi, liin Jme views or 



p lire in Zuiuland and the death or the Prince imneriaL fhestorv 



■" "'e Witch around the world to our own Coasts, and Iholtn- 



made by San Francisco upon 1 In- visitors us well a a iheir 



'Alaska coast in search of large game will appeal more 



i the American leader. Ab illustrating the life aboard large 



ichts the book will bo something or a revelation lo those 



penences have been confined ta the little hooker, with an 



" " and home. Publishei" 



'■') danohk. -The 10 

 ue new Englbh tonnage rul tin El . 



lupsOl 



tidal craft, and resulted In 

 length and depth, with a lo 

 reason Is there then for a rul 

 and lays a heavy penalty on 



• ■1st super- 

 ble iriiihjph of weight, 

 lty; so much the less 

 : ike depth Into account 



•conl.er.ts 

 ■ 



• only tni: 

 flat sloop 

 tun is the 

 reedom or 



e in email 

 trill e\ a 



ne ror J'2(it) 1 

 dove by the • 



•no in st. r..urto 

 ng ought 10 be 

 place in public 



by an old hand an 

 sAt.ITTA.-Mr. 

 as berore reportei 

 Col. Porter. 



side, the nf th ror jv.soo a side. So 

 wr.crsof small craft to give imvin 

 New York waters they really deser 



i.'.'i'i: yvmt i'I.i B — The following resolutions wera 

 orwnrded (0 Ihe New Yak v. C.: »Movl"d by W. 11. 

 onded by & a. spangenherg, thut this club deemalt 

 ro ibelrappret lation 01 the 



I'll-- it, 1 -.vice, at 1: tit request, ev. -ndlng ihe tlniaiorthe 

 ■ ip. anil also in the fair tind .-noi't-manliko 

 ieh the matter was conOueted throughout," 



:-.!•:. -Mc(;::'ii:,i,,,.f : .,e. ; -.,i,o, lms.ln hand a 

 ;• r. 8! ft. D in. long, ; 1 it. 2 m. beam and •< ft. 11/ m deep, 

 lie. Hodgtrs. Hollow mast i:t ft., boom 35 ft., gafl au 11. 

 ■nsprlcouilioard 21 It. 



YACHT ci,i !>,.-, us Jersey ritv organization has 



lowing OfhcCiS fur the yen : 1 omiiv.dore. T. 11. (llbson- 

 ■:..!•: 6ecretaiTi t.eo. tfrjlt; Treasurer, Wra. 

 sur-.r, l.eunaidBloodsood. 



ids veteran magazine, now In Us thirtieth, volume, !b 

 lterestlng this time ol uie ye : number 



t, notapjj tue 'orulse Inai . wtiiu-n 



^timers to §one$^andents. 



nr-NO NOTICE TAKEN OF ANONJMOD3 COMMUNICATIONS. 



H. B.— Kabblt season in New York closes Feb. 1. In New Jersey, 



•'. 8. s.. Point Pleasant, W. va — Write to Danl. p. Foster, 23 South 

 ue, Sew Voiv. 



N. P, W., BUt 



sou Bros,, map 1 



,l. ,\. if.. E« 



We do nol. Snow 



::.yton, N. .1.— We will hum -1 uuiei- 



of a club with i- ' .1 . . 



K H. b., cnlcaco. 111.— Was not. Ebo late ; Hfehtona 



ijoutiibutor to the Fo'jwsi Kan Swkbam.1 aj 

 rmently ror our columns. 



W E G„ New voil ■. — v. hi -is- can I procure a cooy of rne by-laws 

 ol the BloomiDfetBroVe ParK Assooiailonv ■. 

 Avery, city n ait, New York.' 



C. B.| II WsS send you on? 01 



- 1 five of the Dittn p It. it ruuj snts lorttj the ■ 

 llls or ihnt rfetonttl 



by . :... i-rniee William, N. u.-i. Th" pilot "uu is Highly com. 



- ' I lee: J J ..<: USB It, Tl] .... ' OUld Pldcq 



win to be too small for your purpose, 



