GUNS AND AMMUNITION. 



Anybody can keep shooting all day, but it takes a gentleman to quit when he gets enough. 



SATISFIED WITH THE SAVAGE. 



I wish to say to A.. G. Bevan that I 

 used a Savage 30-30 last fall in Maine and 

 could not wish for a better or stronger 

 shooting weapon. The balance is perfect ; 

 the action safe and sure ; and in every way 

 it is far sunerior to any other gun I ever 

 owned. Mr. Bevan will make no mistake 

 in getting a 1900 model, 24 or 26 inch oc- 

 tagon barrel. 



A few pointers on the care and use of 

 that gun may not come amiss. Never put 

 heavy oil, that will congeal in cold weather, 

 into the magazine; it will stop it from 

 working, as I found to my sorrow last fall. 



1 was hunting on a hillside when I saw 2 

 foxes in the ravine below me. After fir- 

 ing at them I tried to get another shell 

 in the chamber but the oil had thickened 

 and the magazine failed to work. Just 

 then a big buck came out of the heavy 

 timber about 60 yards away and walked 

 off unharmed. I lost no time in returning 

 to camp and getting the oil out of the 

 magazine. 



In 1900 I was hunting in the same lo- 

 cality, with a '96 model Winchester, 

 6 l /2 pounds, half magazine, 30-30, and 

 found it useless with full load shells. 

 It would whip up at least 2 inches at the 

 muzzle, and I became disgusted with it 

 after missing 3 of the best shots at deer 

 that I ever had. I wrote to the Winchester 

 people about it and was told they had 

 made only a few of that kind and none of 

 them were warranted. I was surprised 

 that such a reliable firm should let a gun 

 they could not warrant in every way leave 

 the factory. 



My Savage will shoot through *4 inch 

 boiler plate with soft nose bullet, leaving 

 a hole nearly y 2 inch in diameter. For a 

 light load I use 8 or 10 grains Dupont 

 rifle powder ; 100 grain bullet, 8 parts lead 

 to 2 parts of tin. This does good work on 

 w T oodchucks and small game up to 200 

 yards. I always lubricate the bullets with 

 bay wax. If the gun shows leading, shoot 



2 or 3 metal patched bullets to free it from 

 lead. Turpentine is best for cleaning a 

 dirty gun. Saturate a woolen cloth with it 

 and pass through barrel 5 or 6 times. Then 

 wipe dry, use vaseline liberally, and your 

 gun will never rust. 



I think the U. M. C. people could im- 

 prove their 30-30 bullet by extending the 

 jacket farther up on the bullet. At ores- 

 ent there is too much lead exposed and 

 bullets sometimes mushroom or scat- 

 ter in the air, especially in long distance 

 shooting. 



We had 3 Marlins in our club in 

 1900. They were the cause of more pro- 

 fanity than all other annoyances in camp 

 put together. Paddy ought to close his trap 

 and jump into the nearest stream, taking 

 his would-be gun with him. 



J. H. Kesbitt, Cleveland, O. 



In April Recreation A. G. Bevan, Mar- 

 tinsburg, Ind., asks for information^ con- 

 cerning the 30-30 Savage. I have one of 

 these guns. In accuracy and penetration 

 it will equal the 30-30 Winchester every 

 time. In their 1902 catalogue the Savage 

 people say the 30-30 hard nose bullet will 

 not oenetrate more than 10 inches in wood 

 because the metal cover mushrooms. A 

 trial convinced me this is a mistake. Set- 

 ting up a piece of tough fir at 15 yards, I 

 shot into the end of it. On splitting the 

 stick open I found the bullet had pene- 

 trated 25 inches, and, excepting a small 

 dent in the end, was as perfect as when it 

 left the barrel. How this rifle will com- 

 pare with the .303 I am unable to say ; the 

 latter cartridge having the heaviest bullet 

 will probably give the most penetration. 

 As to accuracy, velocity, and trajectory, I 

 do not think the .303 will excel the 30-30. 

 Roy C. Rogers, Garrison, Mont. 



In April Recreation A. G. Bevan asked 

 if the 30-30 Savage is as good as the Win- 

 chester. 1 greatly prefer the Savage. It is 

 neater and better balanced, and will out- 

 shoot any other gun of the same caliber. 

 As compared with the Savage .303, I be- 

 lieve there is no difference either in accur- 

 acy or in smashing power. If you are out 

 for big game take a Savage 30-30 and U. 

 M. C. soft point bullets. 



J. G. Parr, D. D. S., Martins Ferry, O. 



LIKES THE MARLIX AND SEMISMOKE- 

 LESS, BUT—. 



Los Angeles, Cal. 

 Editor Recreation : 



I have been much amused from time to 

 time by the gun talk in your admirable 

 magazine. It is entertaining and instruct- 

 ive despite the apparent contradictions. I 

 think I can understand why Mr. Nelson 

 loves his Remington and why Mr. Van 

 Dyke sticks to Lis 22 even after having 

 straightened it over a log. I love any good 

 gun, no matter whose name is stamped on 

 the barrel. 



My special favorite is a Marlin 22 (please 

 don't laugh) fitted with Lyman sights. It 

 is the prettiest and most accurate gun I 

 ever looked over. Using Winchester 22 

 long smokeless cartridges it is a wonder. 



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