To Doubting Thomas I wish to say: 
With the rifle of which I wrote (.30-30 
Winchester) I have killed wolves and coy- 
otes up to 500 and 600 yards. First shot? 
Not always; no, ‘far from: it... But in 
shooting on the prairie one can see where 
the bullets strike and in 2 or 3 shots can 
come very near getting his game. 
“All this he did without raising his 
sight once.” Yes, sir; that’s what I said. 
In hunting I don’t raise my sights one 
shot in 50. I hold the front on object I 
desire to hit- and look over rear sight. 
This may look like “guesswork” to a 
great many, but when once the habit is 
acquired remarkably close “guessing” can 
be done. 
Now, here are a few shots that I know 
of having been made, and there were wit- 
nesses to all of them: Three geese kill- 
ed by an older brother at 455, 510 and 
519:steps respectively. One of the other 
shots evidently killed, as a goose was 
knocked down and flew off with legs 
hanging. Five shots, off-hand, .45-90 Win- 
chester 30 inch barrel Lyman sights. One 
day 350 yards. One shot same gun. One 
black eagle 367 yards. Same gun and 
sight. Shot from rest. The geese men- 
tioned above were “single geese,’ not 
“flock shots.” 
Here are afew shots I have made: 
one goose, 355 yards, .38-55 Ballard, open 
sight. Shot from rest. One goose, fly- 
ing, 145 yards. (Single bird, same gun.) 
One single goose, 150 yards, flying, .40-65 
Winchester, 3 shots. Opened on coyote 
at about 275 yards, 4 shots; 3 hits. Any 
one would have killed in a few minutes 
but showed no sign of being hit till he 
fell dead at 325 yards. .30-30 Winchester 
(best gun made) no witnesses. One black 
tail buck at what two friends estimated at 
350 yards, .40-70 S. S. Remington No. 3, 
Lyman sights. Same gun and sights— 
about same distance crippled an elk. 
Three shots at rock about Io x I2 or 14 
inches, 475 yards, .45-90 Winchester. 
Fired from rest. First shot low to inches 
Raised sight higher and fired other 2 and 
found they had struck about 3 inches 
from center and 2 inches apart. One 
witness. Peepsight of my own make. 
Three coyotes, 30 yards running, .38-40. 
Never touched a hair. 
A. A. Haines. 


| GRIZZLY VS. MARTINI. 
Bruce’s Landing, B. C. 
| Editor RECREATION: 
_It is amusing to read the different po- 
sitive statements your correspondents 
make as to which is the best rifle or shot- 
gun for a man to use. It is a good job 
we have different opinions or some mak- 
er would get a fortune while others, 

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equally as good, would have to close out. 
I have used the Kentucky, Ballard, Win- 
chester, Marlin, and’for the past II years 
have done most of my big game shoot- 
ing with a Martini-Henry .45-85, with the 
regular 32% inch barrel. This rifle makes 
a very small hole in the fur but “freezes” 
game quickly. I have shot deer with it, 
and found no traces of blood until I 
found the dead body within 50 yards of 
where he was shot. I have watched my 
fellow-sportsmen trying to sew up the 
hole made in a bear’s skin by a .30-30 on 
its way out, and can not see why a small 
caliber should be used if it has to make 
such a big hole to be effective. The big 
hole it makes in game is the worst ob- 
jection I ever had to the Winchester. 
With my Martini I have killed geese 
at all ranges up to 500 yards. Once I 
killed a deer at 600 yards. He fell dead 
in his t cks. I do not think it is credit- 
able to the shooter or his rifle when he 
kills game at long ranges w:thout ele- 
vating his sights. If he would frankly 
confess that he shoots up in the air it 
would look better for both. 
I was amused by that picture you gave 
about the fight between a horse and a 
grizzly. 
Last spring I met a big grizzly in the 
Kootenay district, on a snowslide. I was 
within 20 feet of lim before I saw him. 
He was busy turning over some stones, 
and though facing me, did 10t get my 
scent, Owing to a favorable wind. When 
he did scent me he looked up, but he 
was too late. My bullet caught him at 
the front of his left shoulder and came 
out behind his right shoulder. He fell 
over on his back and while in that posi- 
tion my bird dog, . hich had never be- 
fore seen a bear, caught him y the hind 
leg, as he would a deer. The bear got 
up, and turning round made a pass at tue 
dog. t.e struck some brush the dog was 
standing on and sent brush, dog and all 
30 feet down the hill. This effort burst 
him up inside and he fell. As he did so 
he vomited clotted blood. He did not 
get on his feet again, but crawled slowly 
through the brush about 50 yards, the dog 
coaxing him along by nipping his heels. 
He then crossed his front paws, laid his 
nose on them, and closed his eyes ap- 
parently dead. One ear had been chewed 
off in a family quarrel, so he was a 
tough looking customer. To make sure 
he was dead I told the dog to nip him. 
Bruin opened his eyes. They were 
bloodshot, but seeing me so close they 
brightened up not unlike a rattlesnake’s. 
I then put a bullet through his skull 
above the eyes and he died instantly. 
I afterward found this bullet pressed 
against the skin of the throat and broken 
into many pieces, It is a 480 grain bul- 

