

periences. 
Over all I put another card- wad and a 
good tight crimp. In this way I get great 
penetration and bone breaking power. I 
would not advise the use of 44% drams of 
King’s powder in cheap or single bolt 
guns; but Winchesters will stand heavy 
loads. The full choke guns are best for 
buckshot. 
I also have a .30-30 rifle which is a dan- 
dy. I use the 100 grain bullet with 6 or 8 
grains of shotgun smokeless and find it 
accurat for short range shooting. A few 
days ago I tried it with a Savage rifle for 
penetration, using the full metal patch bul- 
let in both guns. The Savage drove its 
bullet about 54 inch deeper into hard wood 
than the other. I can not account for 
this, as the 2 cartridges are so near alike. 
Can any reader explain? 
I offer the following replies to- other 
guestioners: Lo H. H: Earkin: The :25- 
20 cartridge is a good hard shooting load, 
though too small for deer unless put in a 
vital spot. 
To W. H. Galloway: The Stevens is one 
of the best rifles made; they are of fine ma- 
terial and excellent workmanship. 
To Emsley Cox: Paper shells are O. K. 
until worn out. A. shotgun would be 
good for bear only at very short ranges. 
Then I should want a 10 gauge loaded with 
large buckshot. You would better hunt 
bear with a .30-30 or a. -90 if you care to 
get home in a condition to tell your ex- 
To B. E. Hocker: For duck shooting 
and long range use 3% drams King’s 
smokeless, chilled shot and full choked 
gun. : 
To L. H. Tarr: I have used many shot 
cartridges in rifles. To load them fill the 
shell 1-3 full of powder and cover with a 
suitable wad. Take a lead pencil or some- 
thing similar, of the right size, and roll a 
strip of tisue paper 1% or 2 inches wide, 2 
or 3 times around the pencil, letting pa- 
per project %4 inch over the end. Give the 
“projecting end a good twist and insert pen- 
cil with paper still on, into the shell Re- 
move pencil and fill paper tube nearly to 
the top of shell with shot. Twist paper 
and press into shell; using a thin wad on 
top. The shot do not touch the barrel 
and consequently will not lead the rifling. 
Use No. 8 shot. The range is not over 3 
or 4 rods and shot will scatter badly, but 
will give great penetration. 
G. E. T., Lime Ridge, Wis. 

ABOUT SHOT GUNS AND RIFLES. 
I observe that a very large percentage 
of the writers prefer the .22 caliber, and 
seldom read of one who uses the .32 
caliber rimfire, long or short. . 
Now, I have used rifles of many pat- 
terns and calibers, commencing in my 
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youth with the long muzzle-loading Ken- 
tucky pattern; but for this section, Cen- 
tral New Jersey, I have found the rimfire 
.32 the dandy, especially for squirrels. 
I have a Winchester single shot No. 
2, 8% pounds, 32 caliber, Rocky mountain 
and knife-blade si« ts, and find I can get 
as many squirrels with it as others with 
rifles of other calibers, or with shotguns. 
I find it will carry up well 100 to 
150 yards, and that is all one need care 
I enjoy. With any rifle, if one can bag 
2. out of every 3 squirels shot at, at 75 
yards or even at 50 yards, he is a good 
shot, in my opinion. I prefer a single 
shot rifle. It is easier to keep clean and 
less liable to get out of order, and a 
heavy to a light one, I can hold it stead- 
ier. 
For grizzlies or catamounts, of course, 
one would require something heavier. 
Mine would be but a plaything. 
For target shooting I have another 
rifle of the same make and weight as the 
other, but carryinz .32 Winchester central 
fire cartridges with Lyman sights; and 
find that up to 300 yards it can hold its 
own against larger calibers; it seems to 
“get there” fully as often as the others, 
especially the army rifles. Am perfectly 
satisfied with both. 
Now, in regard to shotguns. Having 
used several makes, I much prefer the 
Remington. 
I have 2 of them, one new and the other 
nearly so; one of 8 pounds and the other 
9 pounds, both 12 gauge; Damascus bar- 
rels, and hammer guns. I notice afield or 
at the traps, if held rightly, either will fill 
the bill satisfactorily. 
I have also an IXL. (Loomis) cylinder 
bore, a very strong shooter; splendid for 
brush shooting, but not so good at the 
traps. Am well pleased with all 3 of 
them. 
As with rifles I prefer a heavy shotgun. 
Don’t seem to pound one’s shoulder so 
much. TEN ND ie 

IN DEFENCE OF THE 445. 
I notice in April RECREATION a reply 
by W. H. Borem, to Grizzly Pete’s praise 
of the good old .45-70  Pete’s shooting, 
though unsportsmanlike, demonstrated the 
reliability of the caliber which all sports- 
men once loved 2°. d which to-day 75 per 
cent of them still use. 
I am surprised that a man claiming a 30 
years’ record as a hunter should make 
such assertions regarding the .45 as does 
friend Borem. Though late comers are 
expected to be rancorous against their old 
faith, Borem’s tirade against the .45 will 
not help the .30 with RECREATION readers. 
They do not deem it sportsmanlike to 
‘abuse an old friend. 
All great records were made with the 
